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    • Waves and Smiles
    • By Waves and Smiles 17th Mar 16, 5:23 PM
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    Waves and Smiles
    Here we can all be heard for a little while. Part 3
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    • 17th Mar 16, 5:23 PM
    Here we can all be heard for a little while. Part 3 17th Mar 16 at 5:23 PM
    This thread is a continuation of The Mental Health thread “Here we can all be heard for a little while Part 2”. The previous thread can be found here-

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5320917&page=501

    I started the original thread when I was lonely and suffering with mental health issues and was lucky to find a wonderful group of amazing new friends who now mean the world to me. My name was Worried and Scared back then but with the help of everyone here I became Waves and Smiles. This thread is no longer just about me, it is about all of us and for anyone who needs mental health support, their carers and anyone who is interested in learning more. Sometimes we speak seriously, sometimes we offer gentle advice and a lot of the time we laugh together. Sometimes I write mini-novels about my experiences of living with complex mental illness. What is important is everyone here is there for each other. New posters are welcome to join in, or just lurk (we call them humming birds because they hover!) if they would prefer. This is a place without judgement or pressure, and a safe place for everyone. We try to keep abbreviations to a minimum but if there are some that you do not understand please ask.

    Sir Pugliet is our Good Mental Health pug! You may notice that he is mentioned from time to time, he is a little cuddly pug toy that was sent to me by a friend on the thread. He is something of a celebrity now!


    Hugs and warm handshakes, or finger squishes, whichever you prefer.

    Also, please take a look at the following links which offer great advice written by the lovely people at MSE!

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/family/2016/03/martin-lewis-launches-new-money--mental-health-policy-institute

    http://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/2016/05/16/the-money-and-mental-health-policy-institute-whatll-it-really-do

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/mental-health-guide
    Last edited by Waves and Smiles; 17-05-2016 at 10:29 AM.
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    • elsien
    • By elsien 22nd Jun 17, 8:00 PM
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    elsien
    It's the hyperactive type that comes to mind when people think of ADHD, isn't it? You learn something new in here all the time.

    Are you good shocked or not sure shocked, if that makes sense?
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Gingernutty
    • By Gingernutty 22nd Jun 17, 8:08 PM
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    On the one hand, it was kinda/sorta expected. On the other hand this is big, life-changing stuff.

    Kinda relieved and sorta trepidatious. I know they're not proper words, btw.

    I'm hoping, once the referrals and tests are done, this can be sorted quickly.

    I have no idea what's going to happen, if the drugs will work, what happens if they do or what happens if they don't.
    Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway...
    • Gingernutty
    • By Gingernutty 22nd Jun 17, 8:10 PM
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    Gingernutty
    They even gave examples of people with the combined type.

    wil.i.am, Keith Lemon were two.

    I said I couldn't watch them as they annoyed me.
    Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway...
    • elsien
    • By elsien 22nd Jun 17, 8:13 PM
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    elsien
    Your made up words make perfect sense.

    Do they look at medication first or are there other strategies that can be learned for people who don't like taking tablets? Just curious about adult treatment as opposed to that for children - tell me to go away if I'm being too nosey!
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 22nd Jun 17, 8:14 PM
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    Pyxis
    On the one hand, it was kinda/sorta expected. On the other hand this is big, life-changing stuff.

    Kinda relieved and sorta trepidatious. I know they're not proper words, btw.

    I'm hoping, once the referrals and tests are done, this can be sorted quickly.

    I have no idea what's going to happen, if the drugs will work, what happens if they do or what happens if they don't.
    Originally posted by Gingernutty
    Trepidatious is good!
    Try trepidanxious!

    If the first drug doesn't work, they'd probably either change the dose or try a different one. That happened to me.

    Also, expect some weird feelings initially....physical ones, I mean. (How anyone likes to take them recreationally is beyond me!)
    They will wear off, though.

    It's like anything.... you have to give these things time, and remember, you have a whole lot of coping strategies in place that you've built up over years, and they can take a bit of unravelling.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 22nd Jun 17, 8:16 PM
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    Pyxis
    They even gave examples of people with the combined type.

    wil.i.am, Keith Lemon were two.

    I said I couldn't watch them as they annoyed me.
    Originally posted by Gingernutty
    The fact that it's inherited is a pain, because a house full of ADHD people is no fun to live in....... no wonder such families are dysfunctional, as well I know.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

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    • elsien
    • By elsien 22nd Jun 17, 8:24 PM
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    One of ERs children got sectioned today. They've gone through a lot lately so it's no great surprise, but it's sad all the same. Wondering how much of a genetic element there is there, and how much is/was environmental factors.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Gingernutty
    • By Gingernutty 22nd Jun 17, 8:28 PM
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    Gingernutty
    I've developed good coping strategies over the years, have had multiple rounds of CBT for the depression and so they wemt straight for the drugs option.

    Even after I told them I knew they could be abused. That's a long story for not even a penguin.

    They don't suggest drugs as a first option to all their adult patients, especially thiose with ishoos.
    Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway...
    • dandy-candy
    • By dandy-candy 22nd Jun 17, 10:21 PM
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    dandy-candy
    Gosh just woke up really disoriented. DH was calling out to DS1 and I thought it was morning and looked at the clock thinking it was 10am

    I have that horrible electric pins and needles buzzing running through my entire body, does anyone else get that when they're having a "moment"?
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 22nd Jun 17, 10:56 PM
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    Congrats on the AmDram Pyxis! And GN, I think it's good that you have a diagnosis, it was for my friend when she got hers of EUPD recently, knowing what was wrong marked a sort of watershed moment and the hope that in future there would be more steps forward than back.
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    • Gingernutty
    • By Gingernutty 23rd Jun 17, 11:00 AM
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    Aaaaaand on a trip to London, I'm too diisorganised to get out the door for the 10:45 (direct) train.

    So I've bought another ticket for the 11:45 train. Instead of reserving a seat, I've managed to book first class.

    And I have to change a Birmingham New Street.

    Brilliant.
    Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway...
    • dandy-candy
    • By dandy-candy 23rd Jun 17, 11:32 AM
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    I hope you have a good day down here gingernutty, there's a lovely fresh breeze ATM so it doesn't feel as hot as it has been.

    I dropped DD at College and had planned to look around the shops nearby but when it came to it I couldn't face it so drove home ( via McDonald's and got myself a 99!)

    Feeling fragile so not sure what I will do today, probably a light tidy up and some reading. I've had a really out of control binge on knitting patterns lately, very very uncharacteristic of me - I'm usually tighter than a ducks butt - yet I can't seem to get the oompf to actually knit anything which is a shame. Hopefully I will pick up my needles again soon.

    How are people getting on today? Xx
    • calleyw
    • By calleyw 23rd Jun 17, 12:01 PM
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    calleyw
    Afternoon my lovelies,

    Hugs and squishes and handshakes all round. For those that do need them and even if you don't I will lob a few around anyway

    Windows fitted on wednesday. There appears to be some damage to the outer part of the window recess. I am sure that was not like that before. AM is like we did not take any photos!!! Typical the only room that was finished. So not sure what to do about it. Nice to have windows that shut and lock though

    Anyway this week has not been good health wise. And this week its been physical health. Bad back today and two bouts of what I can only call IBS. Horrible horrible. Yesterday nearly got caught out in Aldi. had to race around. Poor husband could not understand why I was a bit cranky and desperate to get out there. I did explain to him. I did not get half my shopping. And when I had to go and pick AM. Went at the last minute so not away from a loo for too long.

    Due to the warm weather my fingers are peeling and I have heat bumps on my fingers as well!!!

    A lot cooler here today. Might need to put on a light jacket in a while.

    Everyone take care

    Yours

    Calley
    Hope for everything and expect nothing!!!

    Good enough is almost always good enough -Prof Barry Schwartz

    If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try -Seth Godin
    • Gingernutty
    • By Gingernutty 23rd Jun 17, 12:01 PM
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    Well, bonuses to first class are drinks, food and WiFi I don't have to pay anymore for.

    Because clearly, it's all included in the extortionate price of the ticket. That's what you get for booking on the day of travel.
    Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway...
    • Izadora
    • By Izadora 23rd Jun 17, 12:05 PM
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    Ginger - I hope you enjoy your trip, even if the trains are a bit of a faff. Is there a reason for coming down or is it a "why not?" kind of a trip?

    Dandy - be gentle with yourself and I hope you're feeling less fragile soon.

    I'm so very, very glad that it's Friday. It's my first week back since holiday and it feels like it's lasted forever, it doesn't help that I went out after work last night and didn't get home until nearly 1am. Tired doesn't begin to cover how I feel today!
    • Gingernutty
    • By Gingernutty 23rd Jun 17, 12:47 PM
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    Gingernutty
    I'm trying to buy a prezzie for my DSIL whose birthday is in July.

    I'm going to a meet up of members of another forum.

    I'm hoping to do a bit of charity shop haunting/shopping.

    Might treat myself to a manicure.

    Staying over two nights in a hotel.
    Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway...
    • dekaspace
    • By dekaspace 24th Jun 17, 12:30 AM
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    Hmmm ADD, I was told by a psychologist he thought I had it back in 2002, but the waiting list was 6 months for the initial check to see if you got further appointments, and took in total around 2 years to get an assessment and at any time they could say they thought you didn't have it so left it.


    And after I had my autism assessment in 2012 I assumed I had that instead.


    But I hear either you can have both or one is misdiagnosed as another, certainly I am told my autism is so high functioning I am almost "normal"


    Someone mentioned a few pages back it sounds like I have it.


    On subject of sleep both times I was in bed around this time woke up for different reasons first was druggie/alcoholic knocking on the front door for my block and as my bed is against the wall where the door is it woke me, he knocked for 30 minutes and took me another 30 to get back to sleep so still woke up around 11


    Last night was in bed at 12.40 woke up 2.30 desperate for bathroom and at same time realised I had not taken my hay fever tablet, went back to bed but was too awake for about a hour so got up and put computer on, did drift a bit but looked at clock ant it was 6.30am! rushed to bed woke at 10.30 by phone but didn't get to it in time back to bed and woke up for good at 12.30


    So technically I got 7-8 hours sleep but out of sync.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 24th Jun 17, 7:06 AM
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    I was misdiagnosed for years as having depression, which I later found out is a symptom of adult ADHD. It's no wonder you get depressed when you can't work out why you are a 'misfit' and not functioning in quite the same way as other people!

    Needless to say, none of the anti-depressants I was put on did any good at all, and one actually led to me having a breakdown.

    At the time, NHS diagnosis wasn't available even for children, so I saw a Consultant privately, so no long-drawn-out waiting.
    Once diagnosed, the medication was prescribed by my GP, though, on the instructions of the Consultant.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

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    • elsien
    • By elsien 24th Jun 17, 8:16 AM
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    De as pace, I recall being told by a psychologist a few years ago that a lot of people with autism also have add/adhd, although I don't recall the figures.

    Off out now to agility with Gitdog - need to drag someone along to take photos of his athletic prowess. Or more accurately, his sunbathing if it's a sunny day.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • * sorry *
    • By * sorry * 24th Jun 17, 10:02 AM
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    * sorry *
    I apologise
    I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing posting this or not, please get the mods to remove it if not!

    I owe you all on this thread a huge apology due to my antics on here, and I just wanted to say firstly, I'm sorry, and secondly, please don't stop posting, or worry that he's going to come back and make more stupid AEs (he is a she btw) In fact, I'm outta here after this.

    (just scroll past this post if you missed the shenanigans over the past few days)

    I do have a few 'issues' myself, not that that's an excuse, but I need to address these. I think Pyxis responses made me see that. I thought I was being pithy/cheeky/humorous but I now think what I did was totally inappropriate for a thread which has become some people's 'sanctuary'

    I'm really sorry Waves and Smiles for disrupting your thread, and Penitent, for antagonising you, both here and in The Arms!


    I know this is probably a bit random on a Saturday morning.. internet pest coming in and apologising, but I just wanted you all to know I really regret those posts and usernames and I hope no-one had a bad reaction to it.


    Have a nice weekend
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