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    • gatita
    • By gatita 3rd Mar 16, 9:34 PM
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    Microsoft Surface Pro 4 or Macbook Pro 13"
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    • 3rd Mar 16, 9:34 PM
    Microsoft Surface Pro 4 or Macbook Pro 13" 3rd Mar 16 at 9:34 PM
    I have an awful decision to make lol, I have to choose between one or the other! I have the feeling the MacBook is too "clever" for me! I just want it to surf the net, do emails play some games, no tricky office work etc.
    I would really appreciate peoples opinions on which one I should choose, (or any other make).
    Thank you
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    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 3rd Mar 16, 9:48 PM
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    [cynic mode on]
    Get a cheap android phone, it may even have the added bonus of being to make phone calls and sent text messages, act as an alarm clock/stopwatch. I also believe some of them may even vibrate in your wallet pocket before you feel the need to spend good money on frivolous things for emails and web browsing.. Now, bearing in mind that this is a moneysaving site, and this forum is not really a shopping site, but a technical help forum, have you anything that the good folks on here can help in a technical way

    [/cynic mode off - (bing is your 10 best friends)]

    • gatita
    • By gatita 3rd Mar 16, 10:22 PM
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    Well that wasn't a very nice answer............

    This would be a present for my 75th Birthday, and as neither of us are very tech minded, we decided to ask for help in choosing, my husband wanted me to have something special.
    When man sacrifices the Love of POWER for the Power of Love, there will be peace on earth.
    • AJXX
    • By AJXX 3rd Mar 16, 10:46 PM
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    Both very nice pieces of kit to be honest - I've had both a Surface Pro and MacBook Pro - personally I prefer the Macbook.

    Why?

    - Physical keyboard (Yes Surface has the 'type cover' but it's just not the same as a solid keyboard).

    - OS X (with an initial adjustment period) is surprisingly easy to use and in most cases I actually prefer this to windows.

    - Build quality on Apple kit is usually very high, Apple support can be very helpful and usually repairs can be done quickly (if needed) if you have a local Apple Store or Service Provider.

    Note: you're comparing a tablet to a laptop - you need to ask yourself which you'd feel more comfortable with. Personally I don't mind tablets for messing about on the internet but I'd definitely prefer a laptop for daily use or when typing.

    Touch screen tablets are great and all, but after a few hours I'm tired of poking the screen with my finger and/or fed up with some websites that seem impossible to navigate using a touch screen (looking at you Next).

    Sometimes I just want to sit with a laptop on my knee and actually push buttons and move a mouse around - to me personally this feels more comfortable than holding something up with one hand and prodding it with the other.

    Other options? Depending on how much you have to spend look into a Surface Book (It's sort of the Surface Pro 4 but in an actual laptop form rather than a tablet) - https://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-gb/devices/surface-book

    The screen resolution on the Surface Book (3000 x 2000) must mean out of this world screen clarity - it even makes the Retina Macbook's 2560-by-1600 look shoddy.
    Last edited by AJXX; 03-03-2016 at 10:53 PM.
    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 3rd Mar 16, 10:50 PM
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    Well that wasn't a very nice answer............

    This would be a present for my 75th Birthday, and as neither of us are very tech minded, we decided to ask for help in choosing, my husband wanted me to have something special.
    Originally posted by gatita
    Sorry , but it was a gut reaction, nothing else to go on but they are both very expensive for what you need. My idea is for him to spend £350 ish on a laptop and and then spend the rest to take you out for a nice weekend/week together.I didn't mean to upset you but hey that is just me feeling they cost too much for your needs. I apologise for my cutting answer , but I hope you enjoy my alternative or even that someone else gives you a better one.
    • gatita
    • By gatita 3rd Mar 16, 10:52 PM
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    AJXX, Thank you SO much for your very detailed reply, I really appreciate the time it has taken you to reply, and I am much nearer in making a decision
    When man sacrifices the Love of POWER for the Power of Love, there will be peace on earth.
    • gatita
    • By gatita 3rd Mar 16, 10:54 PM
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    Debitcardmayhem,

    Thank you for you nice reply!! I agree, they are disgustingly expensive!! but I assure you it will be definite one off!
    When man sacrifices the Love of POWER for the Power of Love, there will be peace on earth.
    • Jivesinger
    • By Jivesinger 3rd Mar 16, 11:31 PM
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    (or any other make).
    Originally posted by gatita
    Dell XPS perhaps? Although not sure it's as good as the other two, but maybe cheaper.

    However it feels like you're spending a lot of money given its intended use - a bit like buying a Ferrari and only ever using it to drive down the road to the shops and back.
    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 3rd Mar 16, 11:38 PM
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    Debitcardmayhem,

    Thank you for you nice reply!! I agree, they are disgustingly expensive!! but I assure you it will be definite one off!
    Originally posted by gatita
    I hope not ,what is he going to buy for your 85th ...

    A macbook will probably still be running (more than can be said for me)
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 4th Mar 16, 12:06 AM
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    Have a look HERE it gives a comparison of the two. Not that it's exactly comparing like for like as they are both different beasts.
    That said, it will probably be of more use than asking on a forum as people will rarely have experience of both and will usually favour whatever OS they happen to be using/like.
    They are both excellent machines and whichever you choose I hope it gives you many years of enjoyment.
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    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 4th Mar 16, 8:53 AM
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    What operating system do you currently use, and are you happy with it?

    1. Use Mac, like it = buy Macbook
    2. Use Mac, don't like it = consider buying Surface
    3. Use Windows, like it = buy Surface
    4. Use Windows, don't like it = consider buying Macbook
    • gatita
    • By gatita 4th Mar 16, 4:52 PM
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    Thank You!!
    RumRat,
    That was VERY interesting.......
    I know I don't deserve either of them!!!
    but.........hey ho, I will enjoy it,
    When man sacrifices the Love of POWER for the Power of Love, there will be peace on earth.
    • Johnmcl7
    • By Johnmcl7 4th Mar 16, 5:12 PM
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    I think it's a lot of money to spend when you're not sure on the form factor, it may be worth considering maybe buying a standard iPad or Android tablet first and see how you get on with it. If you find it doesn't do everything you want then you can look at getting a normal laptop to go with it.

    Although I'm generally a Microsoft fan, I'm not keen on the Surface (I realise it has its fans) as I don't think Windows works that well with only a touchscreen whereas Android and IOS both work well as touch only devices as it's the way they're meant to work. As a laptop the Surface isn't that great either as it doesn't have such a solid base so it really needs to be on a solid surface rather than on a lap.

    John
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 4th Mar 16, 9:24 PM
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    Its worth bearing in mind these arent the only two machines out there.

    I've just bought a HP Envy 13 i7. Beautiful machine.

    Light, easy to use, fast and significantly less than the equivalent Macbook.

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-13-d053sa-13-3-laptop-aluminium-10137768-pdt.html

    OR the same machine with a slightly slower i5 processor

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-13-d061sa-13-3-laptop-aluminium-10137769-pdt.html
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    • paddyrg
    • By paddyrg 4th Mar 16, 9:54 PM
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    I'd also encourage you to revise your search a little to see what other options there are. If you're not really going to trouble the device you get with anything beyond some casual browsing, frankly anything will do that. The other week I bought a (clearance) £60 Windows tablet from Chris BNIB and with a free 1 year £60 Office 365 subscription, so there are certainly bargains to be had. I if that so I could run some Windows software on a portable slab. It's not a great tablet, but it was effectively free, and it's certainly worth a lot more than that.

    Of the two, I'd say go with the surface tablet, but if you broaden your search you could get a device for browsing and odd mails for next to nothing, have a holiday, and still have enough to replace it in 5 years with another new machine that'll probably outperform whatever you're considering right now!
    • gatita
    • By gatita 4th Mar 16, 10:07 PM
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    I am ALMOST decided on the Microsoft Surface Pro 4 I5 processor 128.
    Dare I ask where would be the best place to buy it, (best price!!)
    Thank you all again
    When man sacrifices the Love of POWER for the Power of Love, there will be peace on earth.
    • AJXX
    • By AJXX 5th Mar 16, 12:43 AM
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    I am ALMOST decided on the Microsoft Surface Pro 4 I5 processor 128.
    Dare I ask where would be the best place to buy it, (best price!!)
    Thank you all again
    Originally posted by gatita
    £732.95 - http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=33084&setcurrency=gbp&gclid=CI 29_qanqMsCFQLkwgod7Z0APQ

    (Beware with the above as this is not a site I've personally used so I have no idea if they're trustworthy or not)

    BT are selling them for £834 - http://www.shop.bt.com/products/microsoft-surface-pro-4-intel-core-i5-4gb-128gb-ssd-12-3--windows-10-professional-64-bit-9py-00002-BQ00.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc%20produ ct%20search&utm_campaign=PLA%20|%20Shopping%20|%20 All%20Products&gclid=COC9246oqMsCFUa4Gwod_YsI5A

    Or Microsoft Directly for £849 - http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/Surface-Pro-4/productID.326546100
    • gatita
    • By gatita 5th Mar 16, 10:07 PM
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    AJXX Thank you for that information, I looked into the simplyelectronics, but they have dreadful reviews on Trust Pilot so I will give them a miss, (shame as their prices are great!)
    I really appreciate your advise and help again
    When man sacrifices the Love of POWER for the Power of Love, there will be peace on earth.
    • ententecordiale
    • By ententecordiale 6th Mar 16, 10:49 PM
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    I bought my surface pro 3 a year ago from a company on eBay called Electronic king. They seem to source them from US but keep stock in EU. The prices are cheaper than I found in UK and I was able to haggle the type cover down to £50,although it is an American layout. Shipping was fast and arrived in good condition. They shipped the wrong sized HDD version but sorted it out quickly and delivered the replacement to me while on a trip to Germany.

    It had a problem with the surface pen app and Microsoft support were excellent. They picked it up on Monday afternoon and shipped a replacement for Germany to uk by Friday morning of the same week. They would also ship a replacement immediately without waiting to receive mine if I let them authorise an amount on my credit card.

    This just my experience with Electronic King and Microsoft support in case it helps
    • custardy
    • By custardy 20th Mar 17, 12:51 PM
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    Why a Surface pro and not looking at the Surface book?
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