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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    The cabinet are meeting today at Chequers to discuss what Brexit might mean.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37219143

    I bet in another six months we might know what government think Brexit means and in a few short years we'll know if they got what they wanted. The pace is relentless.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The EU consists of different members that want different outcomes. Far easier to negotiate on 1 vs 1 basis. As both sides can offer compromises to overcome particular sticking points. Difficult when the Germans say yes, the French say no, the Italians say if only, etc etc.

    A few short weeks ago the Germans ruled Europe and whatever they said went. Now it's all so difficult and complicated.

    What changed?
  • nkomp18
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    Excellent strategy guys!
    First let's slit our wrists with razor blades, then let's discuss where to buy bandages.
    wotsthat wrote: »
    The cabinet are meeting today at Chequers to discuss what Brexit might mean.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37219143

    I bet in another six months we might know what government think Brexit means and in a few short years we'll know if they got what they wanted. The pace is relentless.
  • buglawton
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    I'm halfway through this radio prog:
    How We Voted Brexit
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pgw3k

    And it brings back memories of just how far away from reality Cameron was at his Bloomberg speech this January - once again I can imagine the instant disbelief-reaction that must have spurred so many people to vote Brexit. It also reminds you how overconfident Cameron was at the time he agreed to the Referendum.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    buglawton wrote: »
    I'm halfway through this radio prog:
    How We Voted Brexit
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pgw3k

    And it brings back memories of just how far away from reality Cameron was at his Bloomberg speech this January - once again I can imagine the instant disbelief-reaction that must have spurred so many people to vote Brexit. It also reminds you how overconfident Cameron was at the time he agreed to the Referendum.

    Cameron's gamble had two parts to it. One he bet that offering a referendum would quieten the Tories sufficient to allow them to unite to win a GE and, secondly he expected to easily win the referendum anyway. He nearly pulled it off.

    We shouldn't kid ourselves that we're not in for more of the same. The Tories are going to send negotiators to Europe with a woolly idea of what they want and, lo and behold, they'll return waving bits of paper and declaring success.

    The difference this time is fewer people will care because we'll be out of the EU so will turn a blind eye to any deficiencies in the agreement. Anyway, even if there is a feeling that the UK hasn't got a decent deal what are people going to do about it? Vote Labour?
  • CLAPTON
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Cameron's gamble had two parts to it. One he bet that offering a referendum would quieten the Tories sufficient to allow them to unite to win a GE and, secondly he expected to easily win the referendum anyway. He nearly pulled it off.

    We shouldn't kid ourselves that we're not in for more of the same. The Tories are going to send negotiators to Europe with a woolly idea of what they want and, lo and behold, they'll return waving bits of paper and declaring success.

    The difference this time is fewer people will care because we'll be out of the EU so will turn a blind eye to any deficiencies in the agreement. Anyway, even if there is a feeling that the UK hasn't got a decent deal what are people going to do about it? Vote Labour?

    indeed it is true that Labour, the LibDems and the political pro-EU elite do have a lot of scope to make a mess of a great opportunity.
    We will have to be vigilant.
  • setmefree2
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    WSJ City: U.K. Allure Rises After Apple Ruling; Sterling Deposits Jump; Consumers Shrug Off Brexit

    http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/08/31/wsj-city-uk-allure-rises-after-apple-ruling-sterling-deposits-jump-consumers-shrug-off-brexit/
    In theory, quitting the European Union would free the UK from the sort of EU oversight that on Tuesday resulted in Brussels ordering Ireland to recoup some €13 billion of what it called unpaid taxes from one of its biggest multinational investors, Apple.
    That and the country’s low corporate tax rate could burnish post-Brexit Britain’s allure for multinational companies, provided it maintains a high degree of access to the EU’s huge single market for goods and services, tax experts say.
    The massive outflow from sterling bank deposits that some politicians and economists predicted if the UK voted to leave the EU hasn’t yet happened.

    £6.6 billionThe increase UK banks recorded in sterling-denominated deposits from overseas residents in July
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072
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    Nationwide HPI
    UK House Prices Increase in August

    UK house prices increased by 0.6% in August, according to data from Nationwide. Annual house price growth increased to 5.6%, up from 5.2% in July.
  • setmefree2
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    Mrs May was warned earlier by former chancellor Lord Lawson that she should get Britain out of the EU sooner rather than later by dropping any negotiations over access to the single market.

    Lord Lawson said that the Prime Minister should not "negotiate the unnegotiable" because the EU would not be interested in allowing UK access to the single market without free movement of people.
    He urged Mrs May to "get on" with triggering Article 50, the process by which formal talks to leave begin.

    In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme, he said: "As soon as you stop wasting time trying to negotiate the unnegotiable – some special trade deal with the European Union – it is possible to have a relative quick exit.
    "Don’t go after this will-o’-the-wisp of a special trade deal with the European Union, which they will never give us, because other countries will ask for special deals of theirs."
    Lord Lawson said that Britain could repeal the the 1972 European Communities Act, convert all European laws and regulations into British ones, exit quickly and then start the process of deciding which parts of the rule book to keep post-Brexit.
    His hard-line stance on the Brexit negotiations is likely to be at odds with that of the Government, which has tasked civil servants with assessing the impact of different post-Brexit scenarios.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/theresa-may-should-not-negotiate-the-unnegotiable-and-get-britai/
  • setmefree2
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    Budget negotiations among EU member states are never a pretty sight. With Britain on its way out of the 28-nation bloc, they are at risk of turning very ugly indeed. Britain is one of the largest contributors to the EU budget. It pays in much more than it receives (according to the UK Treasury, Britain’s net contribution was £10.5bn in 2013, £9.8bn in 2014 and £8.5bn in 2015).

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ec69500e-6f5d-11e6-a0c9-1365ce54b926.html#axzz4IuSzvsbw
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