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    • greent
    • By greent 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
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    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 30th Dec 15 at 12:31 PM
    Link to 2015: thread: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5146700


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.


    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.


    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.


    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.
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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 15th Jun 17, 2:29 PM
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    In between dd's birthday party I managed to do 3 loads of laundry, and now 2 pants (mine and dh's) and 3 socks are in the ragbag

    Dds have already done some of the crafting from the gifts dds received, so those items can be discarded soon, hurray!

    Best friend's Mum died last night, funeral is next week; I'm now figuring out how to get there and back on time (3.5hr drive / dh works 7am-3pm / drop off and pick up dds / etc). If only her Mum had done as she was told and not touched the dog's lead! (Cliffhanger, much? )
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    • wort
    • By wort 15th Jun 17, 3:43 PM
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    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 15th Jun 17, 8:37 PM
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    Hey 12months

    I started by reading the 2015 KM thread on here. I think that I would not have taken up the idea if I had read the book first! After getting the hang of it from individual posters here I did buy the book, the first book, but not sure it added to the process.

    Doing the process by category is definitely a huge help. You can choose which is easiest for you, not the same for everyone. I found paperwork easy, others really struggle with it. I also found massive gains of time, calmness and stress-free mornings by doing clothes! No more rummaging and cursing, just lay my hand on everything, neatly folded or hung in sensible order.

    Kitchen cupboards are a joy to behold. Just by making some adjustments to how things were stored and getting rid of (or should I say 'releasing') a few items, things are now within easy reach and no need to rummage or clatter round!

    I have not finished. Real life gets in the way and other members of the household ,just DH in my case) are not necessarily co-operative, insisting on keeping things we never use...But what a difference the process has made. You won't look back. Things stay tidy, you feel calmer, you have more time to do what you want, rather than wrestling over-stuffed drawers

    So join us, have a go and please do post your achievements. It is inspirational to hear how everyone is doing.
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 16th Jun 17, 7:36 AM
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    GQ you have't posted for a couple of days - is everything okay at Shoebox Towers?
    Originally posted by Knit Witch
    I'm fine, hun, but thanks for noticing. Between working, and taking advantage of the light evenings on the allotment, I've not spent much time at home when I was awake, and didn't even have my pooter on for 24 + hrs (kept up with the nooze via radio and glanced at the web newspapers on my work break).

    Will be another rushed day today but I'll aim to check in this arvo and see what the world is up to. Have a good day, folks. GQ xx
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    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 16th Jun 17, 8:52 AM
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    I have not finished. Real life gets in the way and other members of the household ,just DH in my case) are not necessarily co-operative, insisting on keeping things we never use...But what a difference the process has made. You won't look back. Things stay tidy, you feel calmer, you have more time to do what you want, rather than wrestling over-stuffed drawers
    Originally posted by MMF007
    I haven't finished either - I don't suppose i ever will. The office is an ongoing battle, and DD's room looks like a secret hoarders show - but that is her concern, as long as she doesn't spread into the rest of the house.... She hasn't even brought all her stuff back from uni yet...

    But - mostly it's tidy. Nearly everything has a place and lives there (the exception are two large cuddly toys that i am not 'allowed' to get rid of, they kind of float around various bedrooms - not literally ). It is very quick and easy to restore, both in tidiness and cleanliness
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    • Fen1
    • By Fen1 16th Jun 17, 8:55 AM
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    GQ, does your tower have the Grenfell cladding? Are you safe? Can you easily get out if there is a fire? Does your Tower have fire alarms, water sprinklers, escape ladders?
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 16th Jun 17, 8:56 AM
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    I realised that the bottom drawer of my kitchen cabinet of drawers had remained completely untouched, and found a *lot* to discard, distribute to a better place, or just clean and store. Funnels go with the other funnels, in a dustproof plastic crate under the stairs. A cracked bowl will be photographed and let go. All the wooden stuff (from my rolling pin to a honey knife to salad tossers - you know what I mean!) have been through the dishwasher and let go. Four wooden eggcups, much the worse for wear, have gone into the garden, they really don't look sanitary. I'll beg a couple from home when I go next week, but I don't need four.

    ETA - I didn't let go all my wooden stuff, I got overenthusiastic with the phrase I mean I'm letting it dry **properly** and storing it somewhere else
    Last edited by Karmacat; 16-06-2017 at 10:29 AM.
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    • Floss
    • By Floss 16th Jun 17, 10:00 AM
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    Karma we only have 2 egg cups in this home - DH doesn't eat dippy eggs so I use my childhood ones: a blue stoneware one and a polar bear with a basket on his back! (my two older brothers have similar elephants)
    • short_bird
    • By short_bird 16th Jun 17, 10:50 AM
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    I've done the bathroom cupboard and been ruthless with opened items using that handy little symbol on the packaging as reference.
    Need to make a list of over the counter cold and cough meds and restock as that's something I prefer to have here Justin Case.

    Of course, the biggest issue is the unopened boxes from when I moved in in nearly 2 years ago. But every little helps
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    • Pooky
    • By Pooky 16th Jun 17, 12:06 PM
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    My egg cups (4 of) still get used by DDs, youngest doesn't eat eggs but always had her ketchup in hers.....a habit from childhood when I'd do them a picky tea with various things to dip and various dips, they'd always have the dips in egg cups ��.

    Both DDs have decided to move out together into a rented flat - they're both working full time and want their independence (I don't blame them). Buying round here is out of the question for a good few years as prices are silly high. I'm really excited for them as I know how much it meant to me to move into my own flat at their age. I might have whispered to DH "think of all the empty storage space we'll have and how much furniture we can get rid of and just how tidy everything will stay" - bad mummy!

    Karma - I have to ask......funnels......why plural, what do you use them for? I'm all intrigued.
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 16th Jun 17, 1:41 PM
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    My egg cups (4 of) still get used by DDs, youngest doesn't eat eggs but always had her ketchup in hers.....a habit from childhood when I'd do them a picky tea with various things to dip and various dips, they'd always have the dips in egg cups ��.
    Originally posted by Pooky
    What a good idea!

    Both DDs have decided to move out together into a rented flat - they're both working full time and want their independence (I don't blame them). Buying round here is out of the question for a good few years as prices are silly high. I'm really excited for them as I know how much it meant to me to move into my own flat at their age.
    That's brilliant!

    Karma - I have to ask......funnels......why plural, what do you use them for? I'm all intrigued.
    Sadly, thats a really good question I don't use them for anything I tried to use them to bottle jams and jellies (didn't work, I bought a jam funnel), tried to think how to adapt them for use in the garden (there's a sieve it, could it sieve soil? No). I'm keeping until I can see if they'll hold blackcurrants while I slosh them with water and get rid of the ants ... if they don't, they should go. Currently, though, they store inside a big No10 size tin thats reserved to be a second rocket stove, so I can live with them.

    Do you know, I never even *thought* of charity shopping them? Unless you do stuff strictly MK style, you tend not to "see" things. Or is that just me

    Thanks for the question!
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    • 12months
    • By 12months 16th Jun 17, 4:32 PM
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    Hi MMF007

    Thanks for the advice. I've had the sample chapters sent from both her books to my ipad, I'll have a look at them later. I've been reading the thread and have decided to start with a category eg clothes. I'm tempted to do a drawer/cupboard at a time but I really do think the category way will help me decide 'what to keep'. I think I need to see it all in front of me to realise just how much I have of some things.

    I'm making a start this evening with my clothes and hope to get my wardrobe and drawers finished this weekend Hoping to have some things to sell to help the debt free journey too

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    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 16th Jun 17, 4:48 PM
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    Egg cups - we have 2. One is a footballer in DH's team colours, complete with a matching bobble hat! The other is totally plain and i use it to seperate egg yolks when I'm cooking. I hate boiled eggs.

    Recently bought a jam funnel after managing without for years. I love it.
    I have made an effort to keep kitchen equipment to a minimum.
    We have 3 pans, 2 casserole dishes (one doubles as jam making pan), 2 frying pans and an omlette pan.
    One set of crockery.
    One set of cutlery.
    4 matching mugs for guests and 3 larger mugs we use every day.
    One measuring jug,
    One mixing bowl,
    Scales,
    Remoska,
    3 kitchen knives
    1 x scissors
    a stick blender / whisk
    2 flan dishes
    A lasagne dish
    6 ramekin dishes
    5 baking tins, assorted
    One pot of utensils
    a Jam funnel !
    a fruit bowl and a veg rack
    a very pretty tea caddy
    a mug tree
    a microwave oven that gets a fair bit of use
    toaster
    kettle
    a butter dish
    teapot
    Milk jug
    And
    an under-used cafetiere

    And that's it.

    Sounds a lot but looking at my mum's kitchen I don't think we have that much!

    ETA - good plan, 12months, enjoy!!
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 16th Jun 17, 5:20 PM
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    There are no tower blocks with cladding in my city, Fen1, thank gawd, and I am on the ground floor. All flats have hard-wired smoke alarms,* fire-doors, landings-to-stairwells have firedoors too. The fire alarms are incredibly piercing and the sound travels for a good 50 meters, even through walls and ceilings. If you accidentally set off your smoke alarm, you really have to stick your head out of the flat to reassure neighbours who're sticking their head out of theirs that it's just a burnt pan or something of that nature.

    * in event of a powercut these default to a battery.

    The council also has its consumer units set to be very sensitive so that any electrical fault, either in the circuits or in the residents'own appliances, takes down the electrics and you'd have to remove the offending plug from the circuit before the trips would re-set.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
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    • Fen1
    • By Fen1 16th Jun 17, 6:24 PM
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    Glad your council has some sense, GQ.

    Would now -very sadly- be a good time to get a full fire drill? Make sure that everyone on each floor is responsible for everyone else on their floor ( even your "lovely" neighbours ), and know how to evacuate safely en masse. There must be physically less-able and young children that will need help in an emergency, dependent on the goodwill of their neighbours during and afterwards.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 16th Jun 17, 6:27 PM
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    [QUOTE=MMF007;72707822]Egg cups - we have 2. One is a footballer in DH's team colours, complete with a matching bobble hat! The other is totally plain and i use it to seperate egg yolks when I'm cooking. I hate boiled eggs. [/quote[
    Sounds wonderful!

    I have made an effort to keep kitchen equipment to a minimum.
    ......
    Sounds a lot but looking at my mum's kitchen I don't think we have that much!
    It doesn't sound a lot at all, honestly! Oh dear. I'm going to have to work a bit harder at kondoing .... making a list like that might help me, actually. Won't be able to do it for about 10 days ...
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 16th Jun 17, 6:29 PM
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    We only have one-bedroom flats here so, when kiddies come along, people get a transfer. I still can't quite get my head around the horror of it all, along with everyone else in the country, I guess.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 16th Jun 17, 8:07 PM
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    Actually, Karmacat, making a list for each (or maybe just some) category/ies may really impress on me how much stuff is still in this house. Yikes!

    I would love to take 2 weeks out and blitz the place but I know I have to eat the elephant one bite at a time.
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    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 16th Jun 17, 8:39 PM
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    My Darling MiL gave me a jam funnel years ago - I wouldn't be without it as I grow along of fruit and keep us in jam all year round. It's such a useful tool and I thank her every time it's used! We only have two eggcups. I saw them in JL years ago - they have little legs and feet with Mabel Lucie Atwell shoes on and always make me smile. I've kondoed a load of unused Tupperware but still haven't got round to putting it on Fleabay yet
    Very glad that Shoebox Towers is safe GQ. It must be so worrying for many other people in Tower blocks​
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    • GoingToDoIt
    • By GoingToDoIt 16th Jun 17, 10:30 PM
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    Hi 12months
    I started with the sock drawer, it's a popular starting point I think. I've never read the books, just a few Yootoob vids and this thread!
    Speaking of kitchenalia, my saucepan expired over two months ago and I still have not replaced it!!! I have a large and small frying pan and it seems they are all I need...I kept the glass saucepan lid with a high lip, so if I want to boil an egg I just put it in water in the frying pan, with the lid on top to stop it rolling around. I may never replace the pan.
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