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    • greent
    • By greent 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
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    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 30th Dec 15 at 12:31 PM
    Link to 2015: thread: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5146700


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.


    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.


    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.


    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 17th Oct 16, 8:05 AM
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    Slinky

    There will be no Aunt, as well, which is a blessing as I was on the verge of being unforgivably truthful and/ or commiting aunt-i-cide.
    Originally posted by GreyQueen
    Oh dear.

    You could have asked her to phone the funeral directors and found out if they would do a 2 for 1 offer......
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Oct 16, 8:11 AM
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    GreyQueen
    Oh dear.

    You could have asked her to phone the funeral directors and found out if they would do a 2 for 1 offer......
    Originally posted by Slinky
    Lol, this same firm did her hubby two years ago, will do Nan now and are going to be doing Aunt eventually.

    If I don't restrain myself, it may be sooner than she thinks.

    ETA; have just stuck something from Nan's up onto freegle (un-personal shed type item, I hasten to add) and have collated a carrier bag of nicer Stuff for the chazzer. I have some errands after w*rk which will include visiting a chazzer where I have my second gift aid registration. I feel a bit promiscious gift-aiding in two places at once but this particular shop is more accessible to me on a work day and I have to start processing this Stuff outta here or I may go slightly stir-crazy.
    Last edited by GreyQueen; 17-10-2016 at 8:15 AM.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • oceanspirit
    • By oceanspirit 17th Oct 16, 8:46 AM
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    *lobs pack of Valium over to GQ*

    Sorry I can't help out with the other 3 items
    • oceanspirit
    • By oceanspirit 17th Oct 16, 8:50 AM
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    Hugs to all those who need them.

    RL a bit challenging here too at the moment. Have a couple of days to myself now so will crack on with some things off the list and do a little bit of Kondoing in between. Haven't done much over the last couple of months and the mess is starting to get me down again.

    Will have help from a friend on Wednesday and plan to get a lot more things on their merry way.
    • PollyWollyDoodle
    • By PollyWollyDoodle 17th Oct 16, 9:16 AM
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    Oceanspirit, things have slipped here too but I comfort myself with the thought that clearing up is so much easier now. Things may have been left out on the worktop (let's be honest, on any available flat surface!) but they all have homes to go to, and those that don't have a home will be disposed of now that my clutter detector is so sensitive. Stuff that used to hang around for months is now blindingly obvious as junk/recycling.

    Enjoy the process. And GQ, hope you have a good day at work - it's good to get back to normality for a few hours sometimes, even though you're still grieving.
    "Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 17th Oct 16, 9:18 AM
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    My parents reinforced the 'Sunday is a day of rest' yesterday, and told me to sit in the sunshine in the garden and do absolutely nothing! And it was lovely. Not even a book or an ipad, just tea and chatting. Dds had a friend over and played with new-to-them playmobi1 (gift from one of my colleagues who had cleared out his dds playroom), also in the garden.

    I made a list of chores, and my parents will see what they feel inclined to do. Mutual understanding is that if they don't want to do any of them, that is fine, too. Mum will do laundry and general tidying/folding, and put any items she is unsure about on my bed. Dad will do diy, has already replaced a lightbulb (I know... I should have done that) and dissembled 2 children's chairs for the dump. He will look at the shortcircuiting dryer today.

    Dad has offered to cook every day , pick up youngest dd from school, drive oldest dd to math tutoring twice a week.

    I have taken our African dresses from the hanging rail in dh's wardrobe, and folded them in a neat pile on the top shelf of his wardrobe. We don't wear them very often, and I remembered that the women in his family all fold their lovely dresses.

    Next: change dds' wardrobe by swapping over the hanging rail and the shelves, to accommodate their longer clothes, now that they are growing so fast. Dd1, who is 8, already wears size 146 (10yrs), and dd2 seems to follow in her footsteps.
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 17th Oct 16, 10:17 AM
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    This morning I have kondoed our house purchase. What a waste of time and money that was, we decided the vendor who was to be our new neighbour was playing tricks that were too controlling and we didn't want to live next door to him.

    Back to square one.

    The tiler is here to replace random patterned tiles in the bathroom with plain ones, however a load of the other tiles are coming away as they weren't stuck on very well by the previous tiler.

    Off to the repairers with the lawn mower next.......
    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 17th Oct 16, 11:56 AM
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    Just kondoed the mother in law back home. I am fond of her ( chants i AM fond of her i am FOND of her) but, goodness, she plays the martyr well.

    I am in the middle of gathering children's clothes which are being sent to south Africa on Wednesday. They are so expensive there and, when I heard that someone was going to the village we are helping, and with an empty case, I have been trawling the chazzers and put a plea on Facebook to fill it.
    Maybe I will never be all the things that I wanna be,
    Now is not the time to cry, Now's the time to find out why
    I think you're the same as me,We see things they'll never see
    Cos You and I are gonna live forever
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    • Sweetpea69
    • By Sweetpea69 17th Oct 16, 3:05 PM
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    Sorry it's been a while since I posted, though I have been reading most days. Virtual hugs to all who need them.

    GQ, the tales from your Nan's home are ringing bells with me. When I went home after my Dad died, I was working my socks off clearing stuff and found my youngest brother happily sitting drinking coffee and watching TV. I didn't miss him and hit the wall!! Especially since he was going to be living there after I returned to my own home!! Bless him, she said through gritted teeth!

    My own move a few weeks ago was a complete nightmare. I had already kondo'd a lot of stuff, there wasn't a huge amount to move (lounge furniture, spare bed, white goods, curtains/light fittings all staying). Various friends recommended getting the removal company to do all the packing. What a fiasco. They were supposed to come the day before, didn't happen, then sent two men in too small a van with insufficient packaging material. The two extra men who were meant to arrive with a second van didn't materialise. I cleaned behind them as I'd planned to do anyway, as well as packing some of the boxes myself. The van didn't leave until 6.30pm and they had to go back next day for things they had no room for and had stashed in the shed overnight. The owner of the company wasn't answering his phone all day, either to me or his driver who was trying to find out when the other van was arriving. Thank goodness I have no intention of ever moving again!

    There are just a couple more boxes left to unpack. I have taken a few bags to the charity shop since I moved, but there hasn't been much rubbish to go to the tip which I'm pleased about.

    Sweetpea69 xxx
    Note to self: I'm a human being, not a human doing! 😊
    • mrs-moneypenny
    • By mrs-moneypenny 17th Oct 16, 3:57 PM
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    Hugs for all who need them.
    Tip run done this morning we managed to cram a queen sized and single mattress, a slide, a couple of boxes of old pots and some Lino into the landy and get it down in one run.
    Have Kondoed an enormous overgrown clematis that was pulling the fence over at mils, mended fence, treated bottom fence, unblocked gutters and mended porch where it needed it. We are having a hot choclote break at the mo waiting for the rain to stop so we can carry on creocoting our fence.

    Busy day but it feels good with lots leaving.
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Oct 16, 5:01 PM
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    GreyQueen
    Afternoon all. And thank you, oceanspirit, for the happy pills, I feel much better now. Or mebbe that's the 390 g bar of G@laxy I'm chowing down on. Because I'm worth it.

    Slinky, sorry to hear your house purchase fell through but, based on what you've said, he sounds a dodgy person to have as a neighbour and you're well out of it. Fingers crossed that the next one will be suitable. Just think of it as extra available time for kondo-ing.

    Aunt, oh aunt, you have come *this* close to being sliced into ribbons by the sharp side of my tongue. Where can I even start?

    Oh yeah, there was her decision to go for two weeks' notice instead of four, to save about £200 rent to the estate. Which really puts the pressure on.

    Aunt lives 70 yards from Nan. Straight line, you can see one bungalow from the other. Aunt gave up paid employment when expecting Cousin - in the early 1960s. She is able-bodied and enjoys good health. Strong as an ox, always has been. She has all the time in world to do stuff and boy does she not do it; she'll probably live forever whilst me and Cousin and our younger siblings will be working until they haul us off to the glue factory.

    Some gems from the weekend; GQ and her Dad outside in the p-ing rain on Sunday morning, gutting and demolishing a shed and sorting wet and nasty stuff, and bonfiring. Two and a half hours into a hard morning and Aunt comes out the back once the rain has stopped (getting under my feet) and burbles about how hard she has been working emptying two (of three) drawers in a small COD of linens. This was a five minute job but she'd somehow made it take over two hours and was boasting about how hard she had worked.

    She didn't even think that we'd mebbe like a cuppa until I flat-out asked her to make one................!

    Then she made a point of taking a big pot of cheapy biros and testing them to see if they worked before 'bothering' to take them home. Never mind the boxes every which way, the family pix still on the wall, furniture to be moved etc etc with the council officer due this afternoon for inspection.

    And she beggared off just after lunchtime on Saturday afternoon to go to the hairdressers and in the middle of yesterday afternoon to have tea with her son and DIL (who carried one small thing when I made the point of asking him, and he's a strapping 6 ft plus and younger than me).

    Today, I have worked 6 hours, returned a library book due back today, taken one bag of donations to a chazzer on the way back from work and dropped into my pal's junk shop for a 10 minute natter. Then bought a small amount of groceries and a large amount of chocolate, came home and took a luggage trolley bearing a bin-bagful of clothing, plus a ragbag plus another bag of donations to the other chazzer half a mile away.

    These were the things I took across the region on a coach yestereve.

    Meanwhile, Aunt's plans for today involve taking the shopper's bus from the bus stop by her home into the market town (15 minute run). She could take some of the Stuff from Nan's in her very strong 4-wheeler shopping trolly into the town, where there is a chazzer every few doors. I can see clean across the region and know that this did not happen because the rest of us can do all that, can't we?!

    sorry for venting.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 17th Oct 16, 5:19 PM
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    Well done GQ, I hope typing that made you feel a little better.

    There's nowt so odd as folk, and some of them we are unfortunate to be related to, and others, like your Nan, you are lucky to be related to.

    I've just made an appointment to view another property. The one joined to the one we are not buying is almost directly opposite....... Fortunately the vendor of the one we are not buying will be moving about 75 yards the other way out of sight line.
    Last edited by Slinky; 17-10-2016 at 5:22 PM.
    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 17th Oct 16, 7:09 PM
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    Slinky, you did right! If the vendor is playing up now, when he wants the money one can only imagine what a PITA he'd be once you were in!

    GQ, oh how I empathise with the lazy Aunt situ! I did Xmas dinner for the extended family 2 years ago, SIL helped quite a bit, as did my DH. The next day my brother claimed the credit, even though the only thing he did was open the booze! Ahhhh family, they can be a bit trying at times!

    Kondo'd more recycling. I am getting a bit concerned as to why we seem to always have a bag full

    Worked all day then enjoyed HM soup for tea. DH had cheese on toast with his but no carbs for me. I may join GQ in chocolate-scoffing activity in a mo. My low carbing allows me a couple of squares of 85% dark choc as a snack (not that I would dare to eat that every day, I'd never lose the rest of the weight!).

    No other kondo-ing to report today but enjoyed the ease of selecting work clothes and warm cradi at 7.30 this morning
    I have changed my work-life balance to a life-work balance.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Oct 16, 7:37 PM
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    GreyQueen
    I always say you can choose your enemies but family you just get lumbered with.

    Spoken to Dad this evening (Mum was busy sitting with the Queen of Sheba who has recovered from her wrong-armchair huffiness). They took their car to town this morning with a box of useful electronics for BHF and some books to another chazzer.

    The other council's officer has done their inspection and, as I told Dad I thought likely, the bungalow's hall carpet can stay. It's newish, very clean and in good nick and very neutral. The venetian blinds on the sunnier windows, plain white, can also stay.

    Funnily enough, from outside, the bungalow looks unchanged. The lawn is mowed, there are flowers in the beds and the blinds make it look occupied. At the back, there are very neat piles of things made by moi which will be going into the skip when it comes on Friday morning; metal, wood, some rubble and things of that ilk. Carpets will have to come up in all parts except the hall.

    This is an early 1950s bungalow and the bathroom is pretty much the original and the housing officer spoke as if it would be re-done. The kitchen was re-done about 18 years ago and is pretty good still. The woodworm have been mentioned, but they won't be in the floors as not even they can live in concrete and tile.

    We are considering for next weekend, if the weather is dry, putting some things out on the lawn with a big FREE notice to see if there are any takers. Of the four orphan armchairs without current safety certificates, one has been promised to a neighbour who is also an in-law but there are the others to rehome.

    Last time I saw the bungalow was yesterday and it contained, furniture wise; kitchen table and four chairs, a single divan base, three dining chairs and two bedside tables. Plus a white plastic garden table and three chairs, a small coffee table, a bathroom stool and an ottoman.

    Not too bad, there are some more things in Aunt's garage including the good double bed, which will be rehomed over the coming weeks.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • tibawo
    • By tibawo 17th Oct 16, 8:52 PM
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    Just kondoed the mother in law back home. I am fond of her ( chants i AM fond of her i am FOND of her) but, goodness, she plays the martyr well.

    I am in the middle of gathering children's clothes which are being sent to south Africa on Wednesday. They are so expensive there and, when I heard that someone was going to the village we are helping, and with an empty case, I have been trawling the chazzers and put a plea on Facebook to fill it.
    Originally posted by VJsmum

    This brings back memories, When i used to work over there whenever i was back i would hit the charity shops here; the 'local' charity shops knew me and would give me a discount. I used to get head scarves etc that no one would buy. On return my maid would take a few and the rest would go back to her village. I always wondered what i would say to customs if i was stopped as to why i had about a hundred head scarves in my suitcase! I remember taking some old footballs one time and watching the kids faces so full of joy over something that we see as so simple. It is imprinted on my brain forever.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 18th Oct 16, 7:00 AM
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    Aww, tibawo and VJsMum, what lovely thoughtful things to do/ have done. I've often wished it would be possible to teleport things so that Stuff could get where it needed to be. It's galling to see so much waste, I've posted before about the perfectly good stuff I see go over the side of the tip, it makes me cringe.

    I even stage interventions at the communal bins at the flats sometimes.

    Laid in bed this morning thinking about the bungalow and all which is going on there. It's 50 miles away, I have no transport, you can't get to it on public transport, plus I have to go to work. I can't help until the weekend and it's like an itch I can't scratch!

    What if they're not doing it properly?! What if things which could be recycled aren't, or they're binning stuff which freeglers would bite your hand off to get? I have come to conclusion that I am a control freak.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 18th Oct 16, 7:45 AM
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    One charity shop were doing buy one get two free as they have so much stuff. So generally I was picking up three things for £1.99. Another was doing BOGOF. Altogether I got 40 items of various sizes and descriptions - I don't think I've spent as much as £40. It's win win as the chazzers get the money and the kids (and parents) get the clothes. I am on the train delivering to the deliverer. As I get the train free and I can work on it, it really is ideal. I'm having a day out in Bournemouth

    When I have worked out the logistics of shipping, I will send more. At the moment it's too expensive, but there must be cheaper ways. I have had offers of donations and there's always the boot fairs but I was time pressured this time.

    Because I have been to the African village and can see what they are trying to do, it makes it much more real.
    Maybe I will never be all the things that I wanna be,
    Now is not the time to cry, Now's the time to find out why
    I think you're the same as me,We see things they'll never see
    Cos You and I are gonna live forever
    Noel Gallagher
    • Tea Lady
    • By Tea Lady 18th Oct 16, 8:20 AM
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    Hi everyone
    Hugs to all that need them.
    GQ a masseur here ready and waiting for you.
    Right think of laying in nice soft thick towels, a dimly lit, warm room, soft natural sounds of the sea flowing. Warm oil gently poured over your tired shoulder and firm flowing hands finding all those knots and gently and firmly smoothing them out.
    Hold that thought. That’s the best I can done at this distance, hope it helps.
    Been back to the homestead this weekend, three days there managed to paint 3 bedrooms to smaller ones completely the main one needs another coat. Down stairs to do this coming weekend.
    Up in the loft found boxes and boxes of dvd's cd's and games. Nothing to do with us been left by the tenants. Brought them home to sort, nearly everyone was in the wrong box. Grrrrrr.
    All sorted now, OH took them to his office and told them to help themselves, for a small donation to Children in Need.
    Made the mistake of not looking in the garage last week. Its full of junk too.
    Decided to do some building work before we move in at Christmas. Hopeful the bathroom will be done and we are having some plans drawn for an extension.
    It's all happening here.
    Tealady.

    Go VJsmum you're doing a great thing.
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 18th Oct 16, 9:13 AM
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    Oh my goodness, I don't believe it. Another property we're interested in (not the one near our previous aborted purchase), having been bitten once I'm now twice shy, I've just paid £6 and downloaded the title document for it. It appears to have similar issues to the one we've just pulled out of. This house is built behind another house in what was probably part of their garden. The original house appear to own the drive and we would have rights to pass across it....

    Ho hum, bullet dodged there I think.
    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 18th Oct 16, 9:24 AM
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    Oh Tealady that virtual massage sounded great! Your move back is so exciting too.

    I did kondo some OOD tinned food yester. I happily use OOD tins on the occasion when I have stumbled on them in cupboard (not often, thankfully), but these tins were W8rose chopped tomatoes, dated end of 2014 and were all blown. Binned pronto! They were at a client's house and she offered them to me to make soup with! Er, no thanks.

    Lazy start to today......but into kitchen now to create something, don't know what yet, need to assess available resources! I shall make some more soup to take to my friend tomorrow (took HM quiche last week) and that'll kondo the carrots and a few HM spuds

    Note to self: Do a meal plan for the rest of the week! It helps organise shopping and proper dieting and stops food-related anxiety

    Enjoy the autumn colours!

    M
    I have changed my work-life balance to a life-work balance.
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