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    • greent
    • By greent 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
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    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 30th Dec 15 at 12:31 PM
    Link to 2015: thread: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5146700


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.


    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.


    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.


    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving on random, impulse purchases.
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    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 22nd Sep 16, 9:09 PM
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    Didn't expect to make any inroads today but large empty bath foam bottle and an empty pot of face cream gone into recycling. I'd decanted the remainder of the cream into a small plastic pump bottle so will be used up. Oh and 8 leaflets and 2 newspapers gone to recycle too.
    Have a good evening all
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    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 23rd Sep 16, 7:13 AM
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    Out all day today at elderly aunts funeral. Its a long way away. So no kondoing. Got a fairly big deadline to hit monday morning in preparation for a massive deadline the following Saturday. I hope to do some catching up on monday but it might have to go into October ...

    Have a great day peeps
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    Now is not the time to cry, Now's the time to find out why
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    Cos You and I are gonna live forever
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    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 23rd Sep 16, 9:09 AM
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    !OMG, that's amazing. Did you check it was your actual DH not a dead ringer?!
    Well if he gives me flowers on my birthday I'll know it's an imposter!

    Off to visit two lovely friends today, lunch out and a lot of nattering and laughter. Plan mini kondo later as have my eye on sorting out a small shelf of notebooks and files. It is not horrendous but is nagging me to make it neater and I may be able to reduce the volume, not sure till I get a grip of the items one by one!

    Btw, I have Kondo'd the holiday weight! Sooooo, I may well reach my next mini target by the end of the month. As I have a plenty more to lose (not hanging head in shame about prev gains, am getting on with current achievements), I have set a long term target of mid-January for another 2 stone. That may be pushing it a bit but I'll give it a serious go! I am so convinced that the KM magic indeed changed my mindset about so many things and I feel so upbeat, who knows what can happen
    I have changed my work-life balance to a life-work balance.
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 23rd Sep 16, 10:14 AM
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    I'm kondoing new work tasks already A lot of the stuff they wanted to put on my desk I have managed to deflect, by suggesting other people who are more uptodate or apt at dealing with them. I'm just suggesting them, but it seems my bosses agree. Hurray! My job title will not change, I will not get a company car, I will not get an increase, so: I will not work much harder then I do now. If they want more, they can start the negotiations, but my time is very valuable to me.
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    • Igamogam
    • By Igamogam 23rd Sep 16, 12:03 PM
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    Lovely sunny day here and think it may well continue over weekend Planning plenty of kondoing, the continuation of the long haul really Sprints and marathons and all that! I will get into the garden though - completely missed timed all my indoor kondoing last weekend and missed out on some lovely warm weather

    The faithful WM was sadly beyond repair and a new one will arrive today - OH did try to fix old one but we weighed up the time and parts costs and just thought lets get a new one - it had been repaired by OH a couple of time before, has been a bit of a work horse, so owes us nothing OH has stripped it off all 'useful bits' but as long as they have been stored in his workshop I really dont care ! Old one will be taken away by delivery people


    DD2 has had yet another clear out......... and a bag full of clothes to CS, some to a younger friend and other bits distributed for recycling or reuse - give a lot of outgrown dance wear back to her dance school, school uniform to someone she works with who has a younger daughter at the school etc. Don't know where she gets all these ideas from

    Planning a trip to CS over weekend and will bring up the subject of the missing barcodes for gift aid.
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    • SpekySquarehead
    • By SpekySquarehead 23rd Sep 16, 2:05 PM
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    After reading the book on holiday, then re-reading this time adding in post-it notes at key areas, I have chosen Sunday as my day to clear out.

    I've already thought of a few things I'll get rid of too, so I'm confident that the place will look a lot cleaner afterwards.

    All my clothes will go to a CS while I expect most other things will got on ebay. I'm really looking forward to it. Wish me luck.
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    • mrs-moneypenny
    • By mrs-moneypenny 23rd Sep 16, 4:55 PM
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    Mins game day 23
    iPod nano case
    Metal ivy frame
    Load of old button batteries
    2 children's money boxes
    2 pedometers
    iPod docking station
    Comedy cassette tapes
    Broken CD player
    1 walkies talkie
    Random video tape
    Old tv remote
    Pair battery operated toy mice
    Travel alarm clock
    iPod lanyard
    Broken watch strap
    Old wristwatch
    2 old pencil cases
    Broken torch
    Old gum shield

    Mins game day 24
    2 bean bags returned to school
    3 dinner bands turned to school
    4 small new toys donated to school prize box
    Selection of scratched CDs school craft box
    Old magazines recycled
    More batteries recycled
    46 CDs donated to CS
    Glass vase CS
    China mug CS
    '50' cocktail glass CS
    'Ring for tea' bell CS
    Pair drum sticks CS

    Mins game day 25
    Bottle whiskey - mils birthday
    2 garden windmills - mils birthday
    Bottle shower gel - mils birthday
    Tub chocs - mils birthday
    Box chocs - mils birthday
    Birthday cards - guess. All above from stash box that is added to through the year
    Old ood edit card - cut up
    Paperback book - finished will be given to my mum
    Angel garden ornament - my mum
    Doll - pressie for niece
    Book - pressie for niece
    Broken toaster - recycled
    12 DVDs - CS

    Have done my mins game list up to over the weekend incase I don't get time to post it.

    have a joyful weekend all
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 23rd Sep 16, 4:59 PM
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    Good luck, SpekySquarehead. Tell us afterwards how it went, please.

    Have been out and about today, dropped in on pal's junk shop and found him looking at the biggest spider I have seen thus far this year - I'm talking handspan size - thru a magnifying glass.

    I was invited to peruse this 'orrible example of archanid likewise but had to respectfully decline.

    I am in process of codging up a rice pud with some ordinary cooking rice and a pint of freebie milk I got from same pal. I don't take milk in my tea, and this has been out of a fridge and sitting in a bowl of water all day, so won't keep, so I thought I'd cook with it.

    Rice was brought forward into view by gutting out the kitchen, and is a reminder to eat it, a kilner jar of rice is not a countertop ornament, for goodness sake.

    Well done on the weight loss, MMF007. I fell off the weight loss wagon for the month from mid-August to mid-Sept and ate far too much cake, chocolate and biscuits. I got back with the programme a week ago and have lost a kilo, weight's slipping off at about 0.3-0.4 of a kilo every 3 days. Feeling good about that, want to get the other half of the planned weightloss off by the anniversary of the start of the new diet - 03/03/17.

    Am planning to finish a charity shop book this evening, and add it to the next donation bag, along with the DVD watched a few nights ago. The haven't been here more than a fortnight and they're going out again shortly. Keep 'em churning, spread the joy.

    Besides, if ya don't own it, ya don't hafta dust it!
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Dill
    • By Dill 23rd Sep 16, 6:37 PM
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    I'm about two-thirds of the way through the book, and raring to get started!

    I got curious about the clothes-folding and looked her up on YouTube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpc5_1896ro

    A little crazy, but genius!
    • mrs-moneypenny
    • By mrs-moneypenny 23rd Sep 16, 6:47 PM
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    Welcome dill, some things do need to be taken with a pinch of salt as the throw it all away message needs tempering with recycle, donate sell or rehome rather than landfill. But yes admittedly quirky but we're all addicts now and much happier with less for reading it.
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    • Dill
    • By Dill 23rd Sep 16, 6:53 PM
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    Do you follow the same order that she suggests, (clothing first, then books, etc etc) or do you make your own categories and decide for yourself which order to do them in?
    • grunnie
    • By grunnie 23rd Sep 16, 7:05 PM
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    Do you follow the same order that she suggests, (clothing first, then books, etc etc) or do you make your own categories and decide for yourself which order to do them in?
    Originally posted by Dill
    Yes follow that order. Clothes are easiest to do just make sure you hold each one and you will feel if it is right to keep it.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 23rd Sep 16, 7:26 PM
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    I would have a caveat about clothes, if you are presently like myself and a few others who are also decluttering excess weight.

    I have a number of clothes I cannot presently fit into. They are fewer than didn't fit a few months ago, but there are still some there which require about 2 stone less of me to be feasible.

    It isn't presently joyous to know that my previous self-indulgence means that I can't get into some things. If you are in a similar position, and weight loss is feasible/ something you want to do, you might like to follow my tactic.

    I have several clothes on reversed hangers, with a cardboard tag on them saying when they were last tried on, and whether they nearly fitted, or were much too small. Every three months or so, I will try them on again, to see if they can come back into service.

    Likewise, I have been able to donate some larger size clothes as I shrank down out of them. Oh, the deep joy of finding the trousers I couldn't previously get into are now dragging their hems on the floor because they are actually TOO BIG NOW.

    When I can get into all my clothes, I intend to have a good hard think about what I want to keep, in terms of work apparel, casual clothes, the occasional item of formal wear (pretty informal life here). I feel if I chucked a whole load of clothes out right now, I'd be screwing up that process and badly out of pocket.

    Just my two'pennorth, anyway.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • mrs-moneypenny
    • By mrs-moneypenny 23rd Sep 16, 8:00 PM
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    I'd say yes do the order as advised in the book, there are times when something will leap out at you before its allotted time, and some categories require a few sweeps as the previous sweeps missed items that you later realise are not actually joyful after all.
    Paper keeps pulling me back and clothes got revisited when we recently decorated and recarpeted our bedroom.

    I'm probably on my 4th sweep through. It does get easier to let go of stuff as space appears.
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    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 23rd Sep 16, 9:25 PM
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    Dill, the order MK suggests is pretty much the best way of doing it. The categories start with sy one where is far less sentimental attachment, and working to most sentimental (photos ). Like GQ says though you may adapt how you deal with things. I have done the same with clothes but my 'will fit soon / will fit in a few months ' are in specific drawers.

    Lots of folk seem to struggle with docs n paperwork whereas I found that easy! I struggled with clothes - a reflection of my mental struggle with the weight!

    Note for Dill and Speky, MK says to do the whle lot in a big splurge. She wrote the book when she was very young which meant she had not accumulated nearly as much as some of us!

    Many of us have revisted categories because we get better at releasing things!

    Good luck!

    I now have a deadline for the messy shelf, and a corner of the study/craft room/dressing room AKA the back bedroom! Electrician needs to lift floorboards! We have a lot to move into very limited space! I shall kondo Stuff on shelf then deal with rest of room, including moving a fixed 'kitchen -unit' style run of 3 cupboards. .. Should keep me busy for a while but may not keep me sane!

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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 24th Sep 16, 6:55 AM
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    Note for Dill and Speky, MK says to do the whle lot in a big splurge. She wrote the book when she was very young which meant she had not accumulated nearly as much as some of us!
    Originally posted by MMF007
    Yeah, there is a bit of a difference between a twenty-something's declutterings and that of a person whose household has been accumulating for many decades and may contain inherited things and things belonging to adult offspring. It simply takes a lot longer and we kondo-ites may have also accumulated a lot more personal issues which effect our decision-making process.

    *********

    On a sadder note, my family are in process of paying last visits and last respects to our beloved Nan, who is in hospital, slipping gently away from her siblings, children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, neices and nephews, great-neices and great-nephews, not to mention the friends of a lifetime from her village.

    Apart from the sorrow - and she is the last surviving grandparent for us four grandkids - there are logistical things already being discussed. When it was obvious that she wouldn't be coming home, certain things were done; carers contract cancelled, key removed from keysafe outside, milkman cancelled etc.

    There have been discussions about what to do about her belongings as the bungalow will have to be emptied in a timely manner as it is council-rented and will have to go back to the landlord.

    This isn't a hoarded home, it is a clean, neat and sanitary home, with a completely empty loft. But it has been a home for 51 years (and there were previous family homes which were consolidated into this one) and it will be a piece of work to get everything out of there, to get things back to places like the hospital (borrowed equipment), to get things like appliances and furniture to relations who may need/ want them, to make sure keepsakes like the war medals are with people who want to look after them.

    I will be actively involved in this process, as much as I can be whilst living 40+ miles away, working a job and unfortunately having just used up the last of this year's annual leave.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 24th Sep 16, 7:47 AM
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    Oh GQ, I am so sorry about your nan. Deepest condolences.

    We went to the funeral of my 91 year old Aunt yesterday. She was mum's oldest sister and, with one thing and another (mainly juggling my none too well father, an elderly mother in law, and two children) I haven't seen her for many years. She could be a difficult (and occasionally nasty) character who frequently fell out with her siblings and her mother (my nan). it's fair to say that i didn't overly recognise the "What M will be remembered for is her kindness" part of the eulogy - not saying that she didn't have her moments, but that probably isn't what i'd remember her for! Also, she'd gained a husband and lost him again since i last saw her and that i didn't even know about (didn't recognise her surname!), and in the eulogy they conveniently forgot about her second husband (out of 4 - apparently all of whom died, some feat no?) that no-one liked.

    My brother and her brother and i walked out saying "well that wasn't the M I remember" It is sad she's gone. There's only 3 left now, out of 8. She was very kind to my mum when she was ill.

    On a more positive note, it was lovely to see members of my family again, whom i haven't seen for some time. We are a family prone to falling out and not speaking. Another aunt kind of held us all together and, when she died, we have not been so good at it. We have made our peace and vowed to have a get together for a more positive reason. it's difficult for me to orchestrate such a thing as i live a long way away, but I shall keep nagging and offering financial and practical assistance for those who can.

    On another, more relevant, note. I couldn't find my black cardi when i was dressing to leave the house at 6.30 yesterday. i think i must have left it behind when i stayed away from home. I put on a cardi that i love to look at but never feels right. So, snap decision on the train, went into Mons00n at St pancras where they were selling off black cardies for 15 each - from 35. It looked much better than the one i was wearing, so that one's going to be kondoed. i can't keep something (clothing wise) just cos i love to look at it....
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    Cos You and I are gonna live forever
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 24th Sep 16, 8:22 AM
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    Thanks, VJsMum.

    It's a sad time, but not unexpected for a lady of 93. Her quality of life has been very poor since she had her stroke and she has cancer and, to voice an over-used cliche, it will be a blessed release. She is calm, and sleepy, and being well-cared for, and we have time to visit and say goodbye.

    It brings home the importance not going into your later years with your home stuffed with Stuff. Even with a modest home (hers is a two-bed bungalow), there will be a lot of work to do.

    The 'children' are in their mid-seventies, us 'grand-children' are late forties to mid-fifties. Everybody has some health problem, or works or both. I've just discovered from discussion with my Dad that he no longer feels competant to drive a van, which will be needed as part of the process. He's fine with their car, but not a big van. Mum cannot drive now due to Parkinson's. My disabled brother can only drive automatics.

    I'm good with big vans, my life experience has included driving a double-decker bus and many many vans, but will be back at work on Monday. We're planning logistics at this stage, thinking about how we will be able to do this between us, who might want the lightly-used appliances. We're not a well-off family and family will have first dibs before charitable donation.

    Ahh, life is complicated, isn't it? To love someone is to grieve for their loss.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 24th Sep 16, 8:51 AM
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    Sorry to read about Nan.xx
    "It doesn't cost any more to dream big."
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 24th Sep 16, 9:00 AM
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    Thank you.

    As I sit here, eating my breakfast salad and planning my day, weeping a bit, as I have been on and off for days, the enormity of it sinks in.

    The loss, the funeral, the offical things which have to be done.

    Then, all the little things. The lampshades and potted plants. The carpets and the rugs.Wardrobes and dressing tables, beds and mattresses, photos and knick-knacks, a fridge-freezer, a washer, a cooker. Toaster and tea kettle, saucepans and cutlery. Garden tools and misc. The food in the freezer...........
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

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