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    • edwink
    • By edwink 7th Jul 15, 5:07 PM
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    Keeping hens and ducks chat!! Hens & ducks names & how many eggs do you get per day
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    • 7th Jul 15, 5:07 PM
    Keeping hens and ducks chat!! Hens & ducks names & how many eggs do you get per day 7th Jul 15 at 5:07 PM
    As a hen and cockerel keeper myself I thought it would be interesting to ask what you name your hens and cockerels. And also ask how many eggs you are getting every day!! I know the egg laying changes when hens moult but just thought it would be interesting to see how many eggs you get. I have hens that are named Bluebell (typical name I think!!!), Muesli, cornflake and scarecrow plus some others. I am getting around 4 to 6 eggs a day at the moment!! Had a delicious egg salad for supper last night OMG it was lovely!!!

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    • By edwink 16th Jul 17, 11:44 AM
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    All ok still with my girls and boys. I know there was a lot of sunbathing going on here in that hot, hot weather but I think it was a little hot for some of the hens. A few of them stayed in the shade up on the perch my husband made under one of our tall bushes. They are well covered under there bless them.

    I did have a quiet girl the other day just for one day but she is absolutely fine. She was probably just having a "I am having an old and very tired day so don't want to run around like a Looney today" bless her.

    Cockerel still giving his treat food away as per usual but at least he is scoffing down his pellets morning and night.

    Has anyone else noticed that their grass is not growing much? Ours always shoots up after it has been cut. We were looking at it this morning and hoping to mow it and give the cuttings too the girls but there is hardly any growth since last time. Two of our neighbours give us their cuttings too and we have not had anything from them either in a while now. My girls like nothing more than a pile of cuttings to dive in to and look for little insects plus eat the grass obviously. Just wondered what is happening with those that give their girls lawn cuttings.

    All for now folks!

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    • Dizzy Ditzy
    • By Dizzy Ditzy 16th Jul 17, 2:59 PM
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    I had to have one of my lovely girlies PTS today we got round there as usual this morning and there was pecking at her bottom so I immediately separated her from the rest and she was evidently very poorly - she was trying to pass a cricket ball...!

    We got her to the vet and the lady said that she had a broken egg inside her, a huge prolapse and wouldn't survive it happening again she was in a lot of pain so we chose the only option we could and came home without her

    So now we are three
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    • ali-t
    • By ali-t 16th Jul 17, 5:41 PM
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    So sorry to hear about your girl xx
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    • By edwink 16th Jul 17, 8:46 PM
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    Always sad when one of us losses one of our girls.

    I always think how nice it is that us on this thread care and think so much of our feathered friends.

    I had to have one PTS at the vets and it doesn't make it any easier does it Dizzy?. Mine was a couple of years ago and I still remember it now. Peaceful but still very sad for them.

    I hope you are feeling ok Dizzy. Sending you a big (((HUG))).

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    • By CAFCGirl 17th Jul 17, 8:04 AM
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    oh Dizzy, Im so sorry to hear that.

    Roost in peace Feathered Friend xx

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    • Dizzy Ditzy
    • By Dizzy Ditzy 17th Jul 17, 6:43 PM
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    Thank you

    Today was quite difficult because of going back to see the others and her not being there. The vet was lovely and so kind/compassionate which made it all a big easier to deal with.

    We did always say that if we knew one of our girls was in pain, that we'd take that decision but it even knowing that, it's still a very difficult decision to make, even though it was the only choice we had

    Still, we gave her a very good life and she was spoilt rotten by us both she's the one who we had to bring home a couple of times because her bottom had got itself too mucky for her to deal with by herself. I bathed her, I was way more acquainted with her bottom than I'd have liked. I laughed when I picked her up once so the kids could stroke her and she did a big wee all down my top. I laughed when he sat down with her to give her some corn and she bit his lip I loved to watch her running around because her whole back end looked so funny when she ran.

    I will always miss her. I know I shouldn't but she was my favourite
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    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 19th Jul 17, 6:05 PM
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    Could I ask for your feedback re: size of run area needed for chickens?

    We are able to put a 12 square foot run on our allotment and I was wondering if 4 chickens on there would be enough to give them a good life. I'm asking because I know that I would like to have the girls when they retire too so new girls will be added to the flock.

    If I could start with 4 I will be really pleased but I want to get this right so give to me straight by all means.
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    • CAFCGirl
    • By CAFCGirl 20th Jul 17, 7:46 AM
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    Could I ask for your feedback re: size of run area needed for chickens?

    We are able to put a 12 square foot run on our allotment and I was wondering if 4 chickens on there would be enough to give them a good life. I'm asking because I know that I would like to have the girls when they retire too so new girls will be added to the flock.

    If I could start with 4 I will be really pleased but I want to get this right so give to me straight by all means.
    Originally posted by fuddle
    I believe DEFRA states 2msq per chicken? But I could be completely wrong. Might be worth a google?

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    • By edwink 20th Jul 17, 12:31 PM
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    Could I ask for your feedback re: size of run area needed for chickens?
    We are able to put a 12 square foot run on our allotment and I was wondering if 4 chickens on there would be enough to give them a good life. I'm asking because I know that I would like to have the girls when they retire too so new girls will be added to the flock.
    If I could start with 4 I will be really pleased but I want to get this right so give to me straight by all means.
    Originally posted by fuddle
    Hi Fuddle

    Looking on the Defra site before we we first got our hens I felt was a totally confusing experience tbh. Partly because Defra is largely aimed at "wholesale" producers not back garden hen keepers. So legislation is a bit woolly. Although when it came to the Bird Flu recently everyone had to abide by the restrictions/rules that were in force at the time.

    I have always been lead to believe that it is 1sq foot per hen in their house (known as hen hotels) and 1sq metre per hen in a run. When you think about it seriously the hens are together all day everyday. So space to scratch the ground (which they love to do), space to make a dust bathing area, space for you to put their food/water during the day that is not going to get covered in soil that is flicked about whilst they are dust bathing. Space enough to give them room so they can happily clean their feathers without getting in another hens way and causing friction between them. So lots of reasons to make sure they have enough space to basically have the freedom too express their normal behaviour and be happy hens.

    Hope that is some help.

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    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 20th Jul 17, 2:11 PM
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    Thank you. I am settling with 3 chickens because I am concerned that I won't feel like I can expand once the girls are retired. I've seen that our local producers hold chicken keeping courses so I'm eyeing a session up.

    Google is fab but experience and discussion is better.

    Thanks all.
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    • edwink
    • By edwink 20th Jul 17, 4:08 PM
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    Thank you. I am settling with 3 chickens because I am concerned that I won't feel like I can expand once the girls are retired. I've seen that our local producers hold chicken keeping courses so I'm eyeing a session up. Google is fab but experience and discussion is better. Thanks all.
    Originally posted by fuddle
    Hi Fuddle

    Glad you have decided on how many hens to get. Have you decided on which breeds yet?. Or are you getting ex battery hens?. You can always ask on here what certain breeds are like to keep as many of us have or have had a variety of different breeds.

    Try to remember never just keep one hen on their own as they will hate it and probably become depressed. And introducing one on their own can cause problems although saying that I had to do that when I took one poor little hen in for rehoming. She lived with 16 other hens originally but a fox got in to their hut and killed the 16 and the one I rehomed was the only one that escaped the fox. Poor little thing flew up to the top of a fence so the fox left her alone. Funny little thing used to perch a lot during the day and look down at my hens. I expect she felt safe doing that. She settled in ok eventually bless her!!

    Talking of foxes please make sure that the boundary around their hut and their run is not accessible by digging under it. Best thing to do is to put large rocks or slabs all around the boundary to stop the foxes digging under it. Always check daily to see if there is any evidence of digging around the boundary and if you notice any fill the hole back in and put a slab on top. Then get some male urine and splash it around the outside of their coop and run. That will put the fox off as foxes are very territorial. Also an old tee shirt worn by a male for a few days helps as the scent on that will put a fox off too. Is your run going to have a chicken wire roof on it? Don't mean to scare you but just be aware that foxes can and will get in if you don't take precautions against them.

    Ask away with any questions you might have before or after you get them. There will always be someone on here that will be able to help you.
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    • ali-t
    • By ali-t 21st Jul 17, 11:17 AM
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    Hey fellow chicken keepers, have any of you used dergall for controlling red mites? I'm still trying to find the holy grail of pest control and my partner found this stuff but I can only find press releases and organisation published material rather than independent reviews. Any experiences of it on me http://dergall.pl/en-index.html
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    • By fuddle 21st Jul 17, 6:09 PM
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    Fantastic advise edwink. I really appreciate it, thank you.

    I was thinking of a mixture of breeds but atop a North East English hill I have to make sure they're acclimated to our weathers. I'll be back when the time comes.

    I'm really worried about fox proofing the coop. Our run is going to be specially made for the size we have 3.5m square. It will be welded to the highest standard with DH overseeing.its going below ground and then extra along the bottom and then coming out. With earth ontop. I hadn't thought of big rocks so will definately do that with heavy planters around it too.

    Do foxes not like certain plants? Worth an ask lol

    The roof is going to be made to size and too welded, wrapped and fixed with a secondary hardware get metal mesh. Any idea of what metalised stuff stands up to predators? I know chicken wire is a no no. Then around the plot were just having chicken wire. This is just to try to stop any escaping chickens getting into other people's plot.

    And that leads me to clipping the chickens wings. What's your feeling on this in terms of how the chicken might feel about it?

    Still nothing practical on terms of the end goal but there's one heck of an overgrown space ready for scratching. My Pinterest feed in full of chicken hacks and I'm watching how to carry the feathered things. Excited. Much!
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    • By edwink 21st Jul 17, 6:29 PM
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    Hey fellow chicken keepers, have any of you used dergall for controlling red mites? I'm still trying to find the holy grail of pest control and my partner found this stuff but I can only find press releases and organisation published material rather than independent reviews. Any experiences of it on me http://dergall.pl/en-index.html
    Originally posted by ali-t
    Hi Ali-t

    I have never actually heard of it before. I have done a bit of Google-ing as you have done and like you can not find any reviews on it what so ever. In the only published material I could find so far it appears to me that it is an industrial type of pesticide and states that it is toxic and not to be inhaled etc. etc. From what I can see on their selling page it is designed to be diluted for use and says that spraying at night is best. My slight concern would be spraying at night whist the hens are in could harm them as they would definitely be inhaling it, in its diluted form of course.

    In the literature I read that it suffocates the mites as they breath it in but what about the poor hens? I am really not sure about this product to be honest Ali-t but I will carry on looking tonight to see if I can find anything further on it for you.

    HTH

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    • By edwink 21st Jul 17, 7:21 PM
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    Hi Fuddle the answers to each of your questions are as follows:~

    *I personally am not aware of any plants that put off foxes to be honest.

    *Not sure why chicken wire is a no no tbh. Are you talking about the coop roof? How tall is it going to be? There is a type of galvanised half inch mesh that can be purchased in sheets from builders merchants or maybe from a fencing company perhaps.

    *If you are concerned that one of your hens could escape you obviously need to make sure 100% that they can not. Because if one could get out a predator could get in. This is often a worry for hen keepers so every precaution needs to be taken that is possible to take.

    *With regards to clipping it is their feathers that can be clipped not their wings. I have had to clip a couple of mine over the years because even though we have high fences on both sides a few were more than happy to perch right on top of the fences. And with our next door neighbours dog eyeing them up it would have been pretty dangerous for them to land in next doors garden. If you were to clip the feathers on one of your hens and she escaped she would find it much harder to get away from a predator. Remember my post the other day about us rehoming a single hen? because her feathered friends got killed by a fox? She survived because she flew up to the top of a high fence and that saved her life.

    Try not to worry too much fuddle you will get the hang of it all honest. It will all become second nature to you after a while. Just always remember one thing which is HENS LOVE TREATS In our house that's sweetcorn, grapes, lettuce, scrabbled egg, peaches, pears, plums, raspberries, blackberries, cabbage, kale, potato peelings and cucumber. For the winter treats cooked pasta, potatoes and porridge oats cooked or uncooked. Just a tip fuddle never give your girls porridge in the summer/warmer months as it will make them overheat. And definitely NO salt whatsoever. They can have onion but only a small amount from time to time.

    HTH

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    • By Dizzy Ditzy 21st Jul 17, 9:16 PM
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    For red mite I highly recommend Indorex spray - it's not cheap but it's brilliant!

    It's not marketed as a red mite treatment but it's worked wonders for us. Not perfect but nothing is!
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    • By ali-t 22nd Jul 17, 9:21 AM
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    We currently use a powder like diacetamous earth and use poultry shield when we wash it down but it's not perfect.
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    • By StarShapedPeg 22nd Jul 17, 10:06 AM
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    Another vote for diacetamous earth, I got some really cheap diatom off eBay last year and it's still going great guns, I had to decant it into a shaker bottle as it came in a poly bag which was hopeless. I also use poultry shield and then biolink biodri which is worth its weight in gold. When they bring mud and water and god knows what else in from the garden and make puddles in the coop, the stuff just soaks it up like a sponge.xxx
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    • By suki1964 28th Jul 17, 2:32 PM
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    For red mite I highly recommend Indorex spray - it's not cheap but it's brilliant!

    It's not marketed as a red mite treatment but it's worked wonders for us. Not perfect but nothing is!
    Originally posted by Dizzy Ditzy
    What a useful tip. I'd never have thought about that and I've half a tin in the garage.

    I did find red mite a month ago and treated both the girls and the coop. However since then I've had a broody sitting so can't re treat ATM

    Yes I expect not the patter of tiny feet this weekend, but the patter off webbed ones . She's sitting on duck eggs as that's all I could get hold off. There's five under her and last we candled all were viable, 3 stronger then the others
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    • By edwink 2nd Aug 17, 7:30 PM
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    Hi everyone

    How is everyone getting on especially in this wet and windy weather? My poor little girlies and my beautiful boy too of course are all getting a regular soaking, bless them. I think we have had rain here for the past 2/3 weeks and have more forecast over this next week. Our water butts are full to bursting and all the veg especially the potatoes have had a good old soaking so no need for anymore rain for a while thank you. I wish eh?

    Not getting many eggs from my old girlies but am happy if they are happy in their retirement because that's all that matters to me. Getting quite a few freckled (age spots) eggs now because of their age and a few wrinkled ones that are a little watery but still nice and orange like the sun.

    Ducks are laying less this year too. I just wish they would be as tidy as the hens and lay them in their hotel because it is like an Easter egg hunt here every day. They lay them under the bushes/trees, in the pond or just anywhere on one of the paths and those roll down the garden as we are on a slope. When they get to the bottom of the garden they smash in to the gate then the hens gobble them up. Our ducks always spend time under a huge Acer tree we have and when they lay an egg there they go off for a waddle and leave it and then the blooming Magpies get hold of it. Just can't win here at the moment! Hubby says he will win in the end as he now keeps going out every hour or so to check to see if any have been laid.

    Hope everyone and their girls and boys are all well.

    Take care all.

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