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    • Pink.
    • By Pink. 9th May 05, 12:12 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 12:12 PM
    Hi lipidicman,

    I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to move this over to In my Home as there are a couple of helpful plumbers who regularly answer queries on that board.

    Pink
    • fatboyonadiet
    • By fatboyonadiet 9th May 05, 12:46 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 12:46 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 12:46 PM
    Why not try it yourself? I did it myself recently and though it was a bit awkward managed to sort it now worries and saved myself a few pounds in the process.

    Sorry just re-read your post, you might be pushed to get a plumber to do a small job, might be worth asking if someone will do it as a foreigner doubt they would ask for much though.
    2p off is still 2p off!
  • lipidicman
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    • 9th May 05, 1:16 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 1:16 PM
    might be worth asking if someone will do it as a foreigner doubt they would ask for much though.
    by fatboyonadiet
    Didnt quite follow this....

    I might try it again myself, as I said I did the basin taps, but the bath is very awkward and the backnuts just dont want to move. I am getting better with my new sink wrench (I have the fixed and the claw head type). Im not sure if WD40 is much help on a plastic backnut! Any ideas?
    • bestyman
    • By bestyman 9th May 05, 6:12 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 6:12 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 6:12 PM
    Hi,
    Plumber here .
    Changing bath taps can be a bit tricky if there is no room to get in. Assuming its a plastic bath ( almost impossible on a cast iron one)and fairly new I think £70 would be a fair price, if you supplied the taps.( plumbers seem cheap round here )
    Usually it possible just to change the tap heads and the bodies and much much easier so try this first if the "spout" part of the tap is ok .
    If you do try yourself look to see if the taps have been put on with a yellow jointing paste , if this is the case and the paste is in the threads forget it as you will never get them off.
    Watch the tap spanner does not slip off and go through the bath ( i did this once) .
    Like I say, try repairing the old taps if poss.
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  • robowen
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    • 9th May 05, 8:23 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 8:23 PM
    Didnt quite follow this....

    I might try it again myself, as I said I did the basin taps, but the bath is very awkward and the backnuts just dont want to move. I am getting better with my new sink wrench (I have the fixed and the claw head type). Im not sure if WD40 is much help on a plastic backnut! Any ideas?
    by lipidicman

    Disconnect the water pipes from the taps completely, so you don't damage them in the process of getting the taps off.

    See if there is movement in the taps themselves, twist them from side to side. If they move, get someone to hold the wrench on the nut, while you move the taps.
    This is assuming you have a plastic bath and not the old cast iron bath where the taps fit into a square 'hole'. If it's the latter, then a different approach is needed.
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    • plumb1
    • By plumb1 9th May 05, 9:53 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 9:53 PM
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    • 9th May 05, 9:53 PM
    What area do you live in?
  • lipidicman
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    • 10th May 05, 10:58 AM
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    • 10th May 05, 10:58 AM
    I'm in hampshire.

    The taps are a mixer tap, so you cant twist from the top (this is what i did with the basin). There are a few problems with them - I cant change the cold tap washer as somebody has pretty much rounded the nut off! I think this precludes me repairing the tap body (ie leaving the spout) The other problem is that the water from the shower leaks around the tap and goes under the bath. Finally, turning on the hot tap is a nightmare, you have to twist it back and forth to get it on fully for a shower. I changed this washer, but it hasnt helped (knackered thread maybe?)

    Great advice about not breaking the bath - I'll be careful, that would be a real mare! I'm going to have another look at it later this week

    I think the tap will come away from the pipe OK, the basin joints were easy. Does anyone have any advice about lubricating the plastic backnut to ease it off - I assume WD40 is bad for plastic threads!
    • grumbler
    • By grumbler 10th May 05, 11:59 AM
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    • 10th May 05, 11:59 AM
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    • 10th May 05, 11:59 AM
    Hi
    I do not think that WD40 can make any harm to plastic. However, if the nut does not move because of some paste (as bestyman supposes) or calcium, I'd try to use some solvent for the former or descaler for the latter.
    After all if it is plastic why don't you want just to break it?
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  • lipidicman
    Descaler hmmmm? Vinegar to the rescue again!
    I dont mind breaking the nut, I just dont want to melt it in place with solvents!

    I dont think there is any paste on it - so I'll have a go
  • moggins
    We're having to replace our whole bath because of this, we literally have the worst case scenario, running tap which is beyond all help, cast iron bath, tap rusted to the underneath and no room whatsoever to get in at any angle. We had one plumber arrive, he took the panel off, came to find me and made an excuse to leave suddenly and we never saw him again

    Our house is going on the market soon so we are going to have to get this done ASAP
    Organised people are just too lazy to look for things

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  • whyhellothere
    I wud say try it yourself it is jobs like these that we can do but never try thats how alot of people make there money

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  • lipidicman
    We are selling too. The bath is fibre glass, so hopefully it isnt rusted. I hope I dont have to change the bath as I have just tiled and fitted sealant and trim under the tiles!
    • bestyman
    • By bestyman 10th May 05, 2:08 PM
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    We're having to replace our whole bath because of this, we literally have the worst case scenario, running tap which is beyond all help, cast iron bath, tap rusted to the underneath and no room whatsoever to get in at any angle. We had one plumber arrive, he took the panel off, came to find me and made an excuse to leave suddenly and we never saw him again

    Our house is going on the market soon so we are going to have to get this done ASAP
    by moggins
    Can you not just replace the tap head a body? By body I mean the complete tap mechanism and washer...the bit that you would screw out if rewashering it?

    Go to a plumbers merchant and ask for some adaptataps or a tap conversion kit for a bath or take the old head and body and see if they can match it up . Adaptataps fit about 90% of taps so chances are you will be ok .
    If you get stuck tell me what the taps look like.
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  • moggins
    I think the plumber who did actually come and do some work did that the last time, they are really old taps (approx 1960's) that must have been put in there when the extension was built, plus it looks as if they built the bathroom to fit the bath instead of the other way round.

    They've also been reseated, the plumber stuck 3 washers in to try and give us some relief from the running tap and nothing lasts longer than a couple of months.

    I haven't heard about that Adaptatap thing, would it work?
    Organised people are just too lazy to look for things

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  • lipidicman
    In my case, I cant get 'the bit that you remove to change the washers' out - the nut has nicely rounded corners!
  • robowen
    I've cut the taps off once before.

    This was a few years ago. Customer was adam-ant she was keeping her cast iron bath.
    To start the process off, I protected the bath first. I used a large 9" grinder with a fine disk in it. Cut off to about 10mm from the bath. Had to keep wetting the taps to keep them cool. Then used a file attachment in my drill to grind down the stumps until I could get into the collar.

    Once I had got to the collar, everything came out easy.

    rob
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