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    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 8:09 AM
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    Silvasava--that is brilliant, exactly what we need! Actually it was the bin trucks at 6:30 this morning, but at least that is only once a week!

    I have a work deadline today--the work is mostly finished it just needs some polishing and then we'll go into town again for a few things we didn't finish up yesterday and to join the leisure centre.

    I think I'm making tea tonight--pasta with fine beans, pancetta and sage butter I think. I'm also going to make a winnaberry pie--we've never had them before but have been assured they'll be delicious!

    Laundry and the usual chores today. The weather isn't sure about itself. We never got the promised thunderstorms yesterday so I expect we'll get rain at some point today. OH cut the grass yesterday, but only managed a circle. We need a longer extension lead so will see if I can get one in town today
    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 8:10 AM
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    Mar, any sign of the sun yet? Maybe we could make one by taking a bunch of yellow jelly babies and smashing them together into a ball. If it failed to provide much needed warmth you could just eat it.x
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 7th Jul 17, 10:09 AM
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    FPk I've never heard of winnaberries but I hope you'll enjoy the pie. Just had a thought, do you mean whinberries? I have heard of those. at circular lawnmowing!

    We need to do some food shopping today - I really don't don't what to get. OH is very easy-going with regard to meals and will eat whatever I give him provided it doesn't involve offal, but it would be really nice if just sometimes he said "What I'd really like for dinner is...."
    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 10:15 AM
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    Ivy, a quick google says I do mean whinberries, you're right. I've heard of bilberries but never eaten them--apparently they're the same!

    Tell your OH this week's menus are request stops only--you'll only cook if he makes a request! Might not work but worth a shot! I know it can be exhausting coming up with them day in and day out.
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 7th Jul 17, 11:20 AM
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    ivyleaf My mum used moan about my dad always saying what ever you want, My first husband used to say what ever you like love. I should have said we'll have salmon then, he hated salmon.

    DS always says what ever you want and if I push it he will say well what have you got? They aren't much good are they.

    We are having central heating. I have been wishing for that ever since we moved in. I could not believe it when I got a phone call last night from the housing association. The gas people are bringing in gas to the building next month so they decided as we all have decrepit storage radiators they may as well put in gas central heating for everyone that wants it.

    I told her I thought everyone will want it as the storage radiators are not very efficient and cost a lot more than gas. I have a surveyor coming on Wednesday.
    • Floss
    • By Floss 7th Jul 17, 12:33 PM
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    FPK if you are at the bottom of the Pennines, there should be local places for bilberry picking - blessedly small things that turn your fingers blue but make a very colourful pie with apple!
    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 2:31 PM
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    Oh Floss you've gotten my attention! Since moving I won't have any strawberries for jam this year. I've scouted some blackberries for when they're ready, although I'm not sure if foraging is permitted so have to look into it. Bilberries would make a great jam. Do you know of anywhere specific, either where foraging is allowed or pick your own? I'm more than happy to rope OH into driving (and helping to pick!) if necessary.

    I did look into pick your own places for strawberries but it was cheaper to buy them in the SM and cheaper still to just buy the jam. I'll get my jam making fix somehow.
    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 2:32 PM
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    Nursemaggie, that is fantastic news! I imagine it may also help get washing dry as you could get some over the rad airers now?
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 7th Jul 17, 2:50 PM
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    Yes FPK except I took the rad airers to a cs when we moved here. I had four, they were just more clutter.
    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
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    Oh how annoying Nursemaggie! I got rid of two when we moved for the same reason, if I had known I would have saved them for you!
    • Floss
    • By Floss 7th Jul 17, 3:42 PM
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    Oh Floss you've gotten my attention! Since moving I won't have any strawberries for jam this year. I've scouted some blackberries for when they're ready, although I'm not sure if foraging is permitted so have to look into it. Bilberries would make a great jam. Do you know of anywhere specific, either where foraging is allowed or pick your own? I'm more than happy to rope OH into driving (and helping to pick!) if necessary.
    Originally posted by FairyPrincessk
    As kids we used to go up around Dovestones reservoir, up the hills above our village (we lived in Saddleworth) and dad would take us to a spot above Scammonden reservoir beside the M62 on the way to Huddersfield. More recently I've seen them around Hollingworth Lake, along the Roman road up to Blackstone Edge (http://www.theaa.com/walks/ways-on-blackstone-edge-420713) and up towards Rivington Pike.

    I did look into pick your own places for strawberries but it was cheaper to buy them in the SM and cheaper still to just buy the jam. I'll get my jam making fix somehow.
    Why not put some strawberry plants into your new garden? They send babies out every year that can be planted out, so no need to worry about leaving them when you eventually move to your own home. I would guess that we've had around 8-9 kg from ours this year, 5kg went straight into wine, another 2kg+ is in the freezer for jamming, and DH has eaten the rest on his breakfast muesli!. Another plant to think about is rhubarb - again, it can be split after a couple of years to make new plants - and rhubarb & ginger jam is scrummy!
    • meanmarie
    • By meanmarie 7th Jul 17, 3:49 PM
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    Just to confuse things further........whinberries, bilberries are called frauchens in the Dublin county area where my late mother grew up.......there was a "Frauchen Sunday" when charabancs ( 1920s) would take people out from the city to pick them and have picnics around the area known as the Pine Forest. Allegedly all these berries, and bluberries, grow best in areas where there are pine forests......perhaps FPK you can find a pine growing area to start your search.....good hunting.

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    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 7th Jul 17, 4:18 PM
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    Thank you Floss! We're very close to Dovestones so I shall butter OH up with the pie and then make the suggestion. We may be in this house a year, possibly two so I may not even be here for a first strawberry harvest. There is a good spot for them in the garden, but it may just have to wait. OH will eat any flavour of jam and I also have the apples to mess about with. Almost forgot--Rhubarb is also on the list for longer term.

    Meanmarie--what a great image. I'd love to get a charabanc with a picnic and go fruit picking! I'll keep my eye out for them any time I see pines.
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 7th Jul 17, 5:08 PM
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    nursemaggie That's brilliant news about the central heating

    Nice to see you on here Marie

    Well, it's been an interesting day so far.....we got into the car and set off to go shopping, but OH immediately realised something didn't feel right with the car....flat tyre! So we managed to turn round and come back home, as we'd only got round the corner.
    He rang the RAC who initially said there would be a wait of about 3 hours, so i prepared to take the shopping trolley to the local shops; but then the RAC man rang and said he was only round the corner and would be with us as soon as he'd finished his current job.

    He came about 10 minutes later and was here only about 10 minutes - we were so glad that when OH ordered the car (it's a Motability one) he paid extra for a proper spare wheel. Well, I say a "proper" spare wheel, it's one of those "spacesaver" ones but a great deal better than just a repair kit.

    So we were able to go shopping, then when we got back OH told me that one of the arms of his glasses had snapped as he changed over from his reading glasses when the RAC man arrived.

    Now waiting for someone from KwikFit to bring a new tyre, but it's 5 o'clock and they're not here so far.

    Ah, they've just rung but can't come until Tuesday, or OH can take the car to another local-ish branch to have it done there, but there's no need really as we have a usable car for now. And we have food. Easy stuff, mostly.
    • YorksLass
    • By YorksLass 7th Jul 17, 5:27 PM
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    All this talk of bilberries is making me want some! DM used to buy them in Leeds market during the 1940s/50s and, apart from being yummy, they turned your tongue purple. If you had cream on the pie (well, evaporated milk ) that would turn purple too. Alas, none of the stall holders have them nowadays; instead they have blueberries which imo are NOT the same thing at all.

    We are having central heating. I have been wishing for that ever since we moved in. I could not believe it when I got a phone call last night from the housing association. The gas people are bringing in gas to the building next month so they decided as we all have decrepit storage radiators they may as well put in gas central heating for everyone that wants it.

    I told her I thought everyone will want it as the storage radiators are not very efficient and cost a lot more than gas. I have a surveyor coming on Wednesday.
    Originally posted by nursemaggie
    Happy days nursemaggie, you'll love it.

    We moved into our council property in the early 1980s when it had under-floor heating (living room and hall only) that had been in since the day the place was built in the late 50s/early 60s. That was useless so eventually the council installed storage heaters. Better, but still expensive and not ideal as they worked on Economy 7. Warm when you got up in the morning but no heat left in them by the time you got home from work in the evening.

    In 2006 our council introduced a scheme where tenants of electric only properties could ask for gas central heating to be installed ... so we did! We did have to pay a contribution (extra charge on weekly rent for 11 years) but got gas laid on to the property, gas meter, radiators in every room, new combi boiler and all pipe work included. In fact, we've just finished paying our "bit" a fortnight ago. The installation did make a bit of a mess but it was so worth it to be warm and have constant hot water on demand.
    Be kind to others and to yourself too. Life has its ups and downs, use the ups to overcome the downs!

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    • Floss
    • By Floss 7th Jul 17, 6:23 PM
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    Thank you Floss! We're very close to Dovestones so I shall butter OH up with the pie and then make the suggestion. We may be in this house a year, possibly two so I may not even be here for a first strawberry harvest. There is a good spot for them in the garden, but it may just have to wait...
    Originally posted by FairyPrincessk
    They will happily grow in troughs or pots, and then can go with you. As to harvest, the first ones I planted in Feb 2012 were two packs of six plants from Aldi, and we had our own strawberries for Wimbledon finals day that year!
    • candygirl
    • By candygirl 7th Jul 17, 6:47 PM
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    They will happily grow in troughs or pots, and then can go with you. As to harvest, the first ones I planted in Feb 2012 were two packs of six plants from Aldi, and we had our own strawberries for Wimbledon finals day that year!
    Originally posted by Floss
    My strawbs were doing well, until naughty pup decided to break through the gate, n scoff the lot
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    • FairyPrincessk
    • By FairyPrincessk 8th Jul 17, 8:20 AM
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    Morning all,

    Floss, I've never gotten strawberries to fruit in containers. I can get most things going in them so there must be some secret I lack! I suggested Dovestones to OH after his first bite of pie. He said he'd think about it.

    Yorkshirelass, we got them in the local greeengrocers--tried them more as a novelty as I wouldn't say they were an economical way to spend a tight fruit budget. The label said Poland, so there must be some knocking about somewhere.

    Right we're off for a morning walk. Hugs to all who need them.x
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 8th Jul 17, 4:15 PM
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    My strawbs were doing well, until naughty pup decided to break through the gate, n scoff the lot
    Originally posted by candygirl
    I remember once someone posted a pic of her dog caught red-handed, (so to speak ) with a strawberry between its teeth and looking extremely guilty
    I think it was on the Daily thread, years ago.
    • YorksLass
    • By YorksLass 8th Jul 17, 6:04 PM
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    Floss, I've never gotten strawberries to fruit in containers. I can get most things going in them so there must be some secret I lack!

    Yorkshirelass, we got them in the local greeengrocers--tried them more as a novelty as I wouldn't say they were an economical way to spend a tight fruit budget. The label said Poland, so there must be some knocking about somewhere.
    Originally posted by FairyPrincessk
    Apparently bilberries originate from Northern Europe, especially Scandanavia and Eastern Europe (so not surprised yours were from Poland) whereas blueberries are American cultivares. The bilberries are smaller, less sweet and grow wild on poor, scrubby, acidic soil rather than being cultivated. They're also more time-consuming when it comes to picking. I suppose back in the 50s we didn't have today's choice and all-year-round availability that we do now and tended to eat seasonally. Maybe then the bilberries were an "extra"growing in corners of farm fields but wouldn't be profitable nowadays. And no, they wouldn't be economical as you need loads to make a pie!

    On a happier note, I can normally grow strawberries in containers, but this year mine haven't done that well either. Probably the up/down weather's to blame rather than our horticultural skills!

    As for local greengrocers - if only . Our nearest local parade of shops has a Chinese/Thai take-away, an off licence/convenience store (I never use it - very expensive), a hairdressers, a fish & chip shop and two units knocked into one for a community centre. In the other direction, on the "big" parade, we did have two greengrocers (one of which also sold wet fish on a Wed and Fri), a butcher and choice of two bakeries. Not any more though, they've all gone We're left with 5 charity shops, 2 funeral directors, a cafe, 2 hairdressers and a barber, a mobile phone shop, a Jewish deli, a travel agent, a newsagent and 3 bank branches.
    Be kind to others and to yourself too. Life has its ups and downs, use the ups to overcome the downs!

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