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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 26th Nov 14, 11:48 AM
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    Preparing for Winter V
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    • 26th Nov 14, 11:48 AM
    Preparing for Winter V 26th Nov 14 at 11:48 AM
    Hi everyone,

    As the last 'preparing for winter' thread has now grown quite long, I think it's time for a new one, and what better time of year to begin to prepare than the end of November

    So here goes....a shiny new thread. Please post below all your preparations for winter. If you want to read through the tips on the older threads you can find them here:

    Preparing for Winter

    Preparing for winter II

    Preparing for winter III

    Preparing for winter IV

    Other links that may help:

    the ice man cometh! (merged with keeping warm)

    Things that worked or didn't work last winter

    Frugal but happy in winter?

    Winter checklist

    Lets hope it's a good one for all of us.

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    • Pennydropped
    • By Pennydropped 10th Oct 16, 8:13 AM
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    Urgh. Tons of condensation on the inside of my windows today. Just the ones with the radiators underneath them. They have curtains, and some have fleece liners. But these are all new windows - just installed in the last two months (two of them last week!).

    So I can't figure if it's the radiator as the heat has been on here and there, the curtains or just faulty windows? Anyone?

    Edited to add: I do have the venting open on the windows at the top.
    Last edited by Pennydropped; 10-10-2016 at 8:16 AM.
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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 10th Oct 16, 8:30 AM
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    Had the windows closed in the bedroom last night as it was chilly but no condensation this morning, massively dewy on the lawns though and the snails have been partying on the outsides of the kitchen and lounge windows facing the back garden. Doesn't happen on the rest of the windows, most perplexing!!!
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    • Pennydropped
    • By Pennydropped 10th Oct 16, 8:36 AM
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    I'd say it was the fleece curtains I added but I didn't add them to all the windows - and one of the windows I added them to doesn't have condensation on it. All the vents are open. The big bay window has condensation on it and I've done nothing to that window at all - has the same curtains it's had on it for weeks.

    I have a tumble dryer (the kind with the drawer you empty water from) but I've had that since July, and been using it the same amount.

    I'm baffled. Am I going to need to look into a dehumidifier? Or simply keep the heat on now? I open the bathroom window regularly during the day, plus there's an extractor fan that's on pretty much all the time. The kitchen extractor runs when I'm cooking.
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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 10th Oct 16, 8:47 AM
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    We run with windows open all over during the day and even in anything except the depths of winter will flick open the small windows to ventilate the house. I don't have a tumble dryer but I do dry washing in the utility room as we have a massive old floor standing boiler which generates lots of heat so it's ideal conditions to dry washing, there is a vent to the outside in that room because it's a gas boiler. We also don't run the central heating to heat the house since we had the wood stove installed, the boiler only comes on twice a day for an hour each time to heat the water in the tank in the airing cupboard. We're as insulated as we can be, cavity walls, loft, double glazing etc. other than stopping breathing ourselves (not an option) I can't think of anything else that could be done to prevent condensation indoors. Not usually a problem here BUT one year we DID get condensation and mould on the upstairs ceilings and the cause of that was a top up of insulation in the loft that went right to the edges of the loft floor and just wasn't letting the house breathe, we pulled the insulation back by an inch or so so that it wasn't touching the outside walls and the condensation stopped, might that be a cause of yours?
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    • Pennydropped
    • By Pennydropped 10th Oct 16, 9:03 AM
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    I'm in a flat in a large house (divided into 4 flats). I'd ask the previous tenant (we moved in this summer), however, she was less than honest about other problems with the flat that we found out about after moving in (was a council swap), so I wouldn't expect to get straight answers from her either unfortunately.

    I've wiped down the windows and turned on the heater, double checked all the vents. I took down the fleece for now, and will see how things go over the next few days. If the condensation is still there without the fleece up, then clearly it's got nothing to do with the fleece.

    I'm browsing online for a dehumidifier as I'd already been considering one anyway as we sometimes hang clothing to dry up in the bathroom and I do worry about damp. We had it really bad with black mould and a rotting wall in a previous flat. I had been going crazy trying to sort it, and then we found out it was because of a plumbing error in the wall that was allowing water to drip into the wall cavity! (relieved it wasn't my fault, but took ages to get repaired as they kept insisting we weren't being careful enough to prevent damp even though I knew we were!)

    I've found one I like but it's £179. Ouch!
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    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 10th Oct 16, 9:19 AM
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    Pennydropped - if you have new DG windows the condensation should be on the OUTSIDE not the inside unless ventilation is the issue.

    Basic things like making sure the bathroom door is kept closed when in use, the extractor (if there is one) is used, and the window is opened after use. Drying in there could be a problem, but if you can leave the heat on and the window open and then close the door (and make sure you have spun as much moisture out as possible) then that will help reduce the problem.

    If the problem persists, a window vac may help with clearing the condensation from the windows.

    I'm running two dehumidifiers at the moment to remove the last traces of a couple of renovation-related leaks. Both were pretty basic DIY store purchases. One has no ID but the other is a DeLonghi. The tanks are pretty small and need emptying fairly regularly, but they're good enough.

    The point Mrs LW makes about loft insulation is an important one too. If you're on the top floor and can access the loft, it's worth checking.
    • kittie
    • By kittie 10th Oct 16, 9:20 AM
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    condensation needs two things, moisture filled air and a cold surface. Get rid of either and condensation stops. Moisture in the air can come from many causes, breathing, cooking, paraffin and portable gas heaters, drying washing indoors, bathing etc Shut kitchen doors when cooking, bathroom doors when washing, put lids on cooking pans.

    Ventilation is also key and air needs space to circulate, doors need to be open and vents open. Blinds and curtains will make the windows stay colder and so there will be condensation on those windows. Check that all the ventilators are uncovered, many people block them. Air temperature needs to be increased a little
    • Pennydropped
    • By Pennydropped 10th Oct 16, 9:33 AM
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    I'm on the bottom floor, no access to the loft unfortunately.

    Looking at ventilation, here's where we sit:
    - all vents open in all windows
    - bathroom window open during day, door closed (has been like the that whole time we've been here, this is the first day I've seen condensation on the windows)
    - extractor fan in bathroom running pretty much 24/7
    - run extractor fan in kitchen when cooking
    - couple curtains/lining added, but some windows that had curtains added didn't have condensation and some that have had the same curtains on for weeks DID have condensation.
    - all windows that have condensation have a radiator under them
    - have been only putting on heater for a short time each day to take the chill off.
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    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 10th Oct 16, 9:53 AM
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    pennydropped - as Kittie says, it's the temperature difference. Do you know what your indoor temperature is?
    • Pennydropped
    • By Pennydropped 10th Oct 16, 11:20 AM
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    I think it's sitting at about 21/22 at the moment.
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    • kittie
    • By kittie 10th Oct 16, 1:07 PM
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    warm air, from the radiators, is rising to hit the ceiling and curl back into the room. The rising warm air is dragging cold air, from low down as is denser, the cold air is warming up and the cycle continues. That cold air is releasing its moisture onto the windows. There isn`t enough warmth transformation to absorb the water being released. You need to keep that window warmer ie plug gaps around the frame, use bubble wrap, window cushions, even cling film (obviously when v cold) stretched over the windows. Keep an eye on outside and inside humidity, worth buying a small cheap meter. Use longer curtains tucked down behind the radiator, that will help
    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 10th Oct 16, 1:40 PM
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    As these are all new windows, and all double glazed I'm surprised you're getting the condensation inside - the first thing I noticed when I changed my old windows was that the condensation moved from inside to outside!

    Have you got the contact details for the window firm? Or do you need to go through your landlord. Either way I'd question it, although you might want to check on the 'in my home' board first as there may well be some people over there more experienced with double glazing than we are!
    • Prudent
    • By Prudent 10th Oct 16, 2:34 PM
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    I had problems with condensation on the inside of my windows last winter and was quite baffled as they had been fine until that point. Eventually I remembered I had shut the vents in stormy weather in the autumn. Once I opened the vents again the problem went.
    • Nomoonatall
    • By Nomoonatall 10th Oct 16, 3:15 PM
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    I'm in a flat in a large house (divided into 4 flats). I'd ask the previous tenant (we moved in this summer), however, she was less than honest about other problems with the flat that we found out about after moving in (was a council swap), so I wouldn't expect to get straight answers from her either unfortunately.

    I've wiped down the windows and turned on the heater, double checked all the vents. I took down the fleece for now, and will see how things go over the next few days. If the condensation is still there without the fleece up, then clearly it's got nothing to do with the fleece.

    I'm browsing online for a dehumidifier as I'd already been considering one anyway as we sometimes hang clothing to dry up in the bathroom and I do worry about damp. We had it really bad with black mould and a rotting wall in a previous flat. I had been going crazy trying to sort it, and then we found out it was because of a plumbing error in the wall that was allowing water to drip into the wall cavity! (relieved it wasn't my fault, but took ages to get repaired as they kept insisting we weren't being careful enough to prevent damp even though I knew we were!)

    I've found one I like but it's £179. Ouch!
    Originally posted by Pennydropped
    I love my dehumidifer!
    Just looked online...it's just under £160.
    It warms up the room....my room is massive... and dries clothes really quickly....well, overnight. Surprising the amount of water it collects. x PM if you want to know which I have, I don't want to be seen as advertising! x
    • FrugalinShropshire
    • By FrugalinShropshire 10th Oct 16, 6:48 PM
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    I am busy knitting extra socks as some of ours are getting a bit threadbare. I have started a new cardigan for myself this afternoon and have a scarf and mitts to finish. I picked up some new thermal vests for my Dad who lives with us. We have preserved loads of apples from the neighbours tree and have enough jam to see us through. We have an extra load of logs this year as we ran out in February last year and had to use coal and our calor gas heater.
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    • smeeth
    • By smeeth 10th Oct 16, 9:08 PM
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    Penny.. I had a similar thing with only 1 window, I bought an interior dehumidifier, which is like a plastic pot with crystals in the top that absorb moisture and then store it in the container below. I've attached the Amzn link below for you.. I found it really helped that 1 window, dramatically reduced condensation. Obviously once the tub is full & crystals are used up you'll need to replace it, but the multi-packs are a decent price.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0157XLT7C/
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    • Pennydropped
    • By Pennydropped 11th Oct 16, 10:33 AM
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    Okay. Still some condensation on the windows this morning, although less of it. But not the front bay window. Vents are still all open, as before. I did note the area by the bay window is rather cold this morning. There is a radiator there, however, it's weird - there's a windowseat, with a cutout portion in the top back of it for the radiator to come through. Worried that all the head from the radiator is going to be going into the cabinet underneath the window seat instead of the front room itself as that's the only radiator in the room (very tall ceilings).

    I'm a bit wary of putting the curtains behind the radiator - it's not a fire hazard?? (bit paranoid about those radiators, as I grew up with forced air vents in the states)

    The window company has one more window to replace and are supposed to be contacting me this week, so I will talk to them about it.
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    • Pooky
    • By Pooky 11th Oct 16, 10:43 AM
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    Couldn't see a thing out of my windows this morning thanks to outside condensation and the conservatory doors had the snail trail, like Mrs LW I'm baffled as to why only one door out of the two but none of the windows? Now the suns come out it's all drying off nicely and the fence panels are steaming away - I do love watching that.

    I'm on the look out for a decent brushed cotton duvet cover, I only have one for my bed and I'd love another. This set was brought in Wilkes reduced to £3 a few years back and it washes and tumbles well, a similar set brought elsewhere last year for DD2s bed bobbled after a few uses. If anyone has any recommendations? DH can be back in bed an hour after getting up so I need to strip and remake the bed as quickly as possible or I'd just stick to the one set.
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    • Golightly72
    • By Golightly72 11th Oct 16, 11:24 AM
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    I'm on the look out for a decent brushed cotton duvet cover, I only have one for my bed and I'd love another. This set was brought in Wilkes reduced to £3 a few years back and it washes and tumbles well, a similar set brought elsewhere last year for DD2s bed bobbled after a few uses. If anyone has any recommendations? DH can be back in bed an hour after getting up so I need to strip and remake the bed as quickly as possible or I'd just stick to the one set.
    Originally posted by Pooky
    I haven't bought their duvet cover (yet!), but I did buy the brushed cotton fitted sheets from Dunelm Mill last weekend, and they are lovely, seem very nice quality and well priced.

    http://www.dunelm.com/product/brushed-cotton-bed-linen-collection-b02610
    • CurlyTop
    • By CurlyTop 11th Oct 16, 5:49 PM
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    Hi Penny

    I have a problem with condensation. I do, at this time of year, dry clothes indoors. My brother had a dehumidifier and I borrowed his to see how I fared..... omg, the amount of water that collected.

    I bought my own and can thoroughly recommend it ... DeLonghi DEM10 ....£119.00 from John Lewis. Its the second one I had. I gave my other one to my brother, who has the same problem, although his has gone on to be rising damp now!!! Either way, he is a pest for never opening his windows and so this has helped dry the moisture out of the air. Also, with the dehumidifier sucking the moisture out of the air, any clothes drying on the maiden, dry quicker too, win win.

    Best of luck.
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