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    Truepat
    Hewlett Packard Instant Ink
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    • 6th Jan 14, 1:05 PM
    Hewlett Packard Instant Ink 6th Jan 14 at 1:05 PM
    Has anybody ever used HP's instant ink service.
    My nephew got an HP Envy 5530 printer for Christmas and JL mentions "Instant Ink" on their site. I have never heard of it and I know nobody who has used it.

    My nephew will be using very occasional printing (<50 pages per month) so the basic package at £1.99 per month would be appropriate but I have no idea if that is a good deal or not. The hype seems to imply it is a reasonable saving over original refills (but no mention about "compatible" cartridges).

    The standard cartridge only lasts for about 200 pages.
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    • S0litaire
    • By S0litaire 6th Jan 14, 5:52 PM
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    • 6th Jan 14, 5:52 PM
    I've not used it.
    I'd give compatibles a go for a while.
    Might work out cheaper in the long run.
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  • Truepat
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    • 7th Jan 14, 8:32 AM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 8:32 AM
    Thanks guys, your comments and links are appreciated.
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    • paddyrg
    • By paddyrg 7th Jan 14, 9:23 AM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 9:23 AM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 9:23 AM
    Basically what you're doing is entering into a contract for them to send you so many ink cartridges per month (or period) based on the number of pages you think you're going to be printing.

    All printer companies make more out of selling ink than they do from selling printers.
    Originally posted by DannyDowns
    Printer companies make more money out of selling a single complete set of inks than from selling a printer/scanner/copier for £50, so they need to get you hooked. Some manufacturers will make ink cartridges with a tiny capacity (despite the printer being 80% wasted space) so they can sell more sets. Some will invent spurious expiry dates when the cartridge will self destruct. Others will only print x copies per cartridge regardless of whether that color was used or not. Some will 'clear print heads' frequently to waste more ink. Some make you print an ink-heavy test page if you change cartridge, or switch the machine off.

    Printer ink costs more than blood plasma, more than the best vintage wines, more than unicorn tears. It's a massive and abusive swizz, don't encourage them. Good quality compatibles (eg JetTec) will save you far far more, and if the worst came to the worst and you destroyed a printer using cheapo compatible cartridges the savings after 2-3 sets of ink would offset a whole new printer. Extremely wasteful industry.
    • Handsome90
    • By Handsome90 7th Jan 14, 2:33 PM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 2:33 PM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 2:33 PM
    I was very tempted by their Instant Ink offer and was hoping my current printer goes kaput so that I can buy a new one. I think it's a good offer compared to what other manufacturers are offering and you can cancel at anytime. Also, I read that even if you print a photo, the printer will count that as printing 1 page, which is a really good saving!
    • spud17
    • By spud17 7th Jan 14, 9:57 PM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 9:57 PM
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    • 7th Jan 14, 9:57 PM
    Printer companies make more money out of selling a single complete set of inks than from selling a printer/scanner/copier for £50, so they need to get you hooked. Some manufacturers will make ink cartridges with a tiny capacity (despite the printer being 80% wasted space) so they can sell more sets. Some will invent spurious expiry dates when the cartridge will self destruct. Others will only print x copies per cartridge regardless of whether that color was used or not. Some will 'clear print heads' frequently to waste more ink. Some make you print an ink-heavy test page if you change cartridge, or switch the machine off.

    Printer ink costs more than blood plasma, more than the best vintage wines, more than unicorn tears. It's a massive and abusive swizz, don't encourage them. Good quality compatibles (eg JetTec) will save you far far more, and if the worst came to the worst and you destroyed a printer using cheapo compatible cartridges the savings after 2-3 sets of ink would offset a whole new printer. Extremely wasteful industry.
    Originally posted by paddyrg

    Still sitting on the fence I see.


    Nice summation.

    p.s. I've always used JetTec in my ancient Canon i560
    Move along, nothing to see.
    • kjmpde
    • By kjmpde 13th Apr 14, 10:20 PM
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    • 13th Apr 14, 10:20 PM
    HP instant inks
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    • 13th Apr 14, 10:20 PM
    I've not got a printer yet but interested in this offer . But yet to find out what happens if on holiday etc. as the website implies that if the internet is down or the printer is not used for some time that the whole connection has to be restarted. That needs to be factored into any decisions as I switch off my router when on holiday or away for a few days. I believe that instant inks would not be suitable for those using a dongle either.
  • gdes
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    • 4th Aug 14, 1:15 PM
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    • 4th Aug 14, 1:15 PM
    Has anybody ever used HP's instant ink service.
    My nephew got an HP Envy 5530 printer for Christmas and JL mentions "Instant Ink" on their site. I have never heard of it and I know nobody who has used it.

    My nephew will be using very occasional printing (<50 pages per month) so the basic package at £1.99 per month would be appropriate but I have no idea if that is a good deal or not. The hype seems to imply it is a reasonable saving over original refills (but no mention about "compatible" cartridges).

    The standard cartridge only lasts for about 200 pages.
    Originally posted by Truepat
    It's interesting as HP claim the cartridges last 1500 pages also
    on their uk site they state delivery is included in the monthly plan & when you go to sign up it costs almost as much again for standard delivery.
    I came out before finishing the enrolment when I found out. However I received an email to say thanks for enrolling... Have you tried to contact HP you don't get a response!!!
    • lisa701
    • By lisa701 24th Sep 14, 8:45 AM
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    • 24th Sep 14, 8:45 AM
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    • 24th Sep 14, 8:45 AM
    I'd seen this scheme advertised and was considering buying a compatable printer.

    My HP printer isnt that old but it drinks the ink like there is no tomorrow. Last week I purchased two brand new original HP cartridges, they have only been used for 4 days, printed no more than 50 pages and the colour is already flashing up as empty. Printer is set to draft quality and I've not been printing lots of photos.

    Wondered if this scheme would make it more afofrdable.
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 24th Sep 14, 1:02 PM
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    RumRat
    I considered this when they tried to sign me up at the start. After reading the T&C's I decided not to let them have the access to my printing habits (limited though they be).
    Besides, it wouldn't have saved me anything. I do little printing these days. Photographs are printed by online means, although even that is a rare occasion as they are all stored and viewed via PC/TV/Tablet/Phone these days.
    Documents are all stored electronically with no need to print them ever.
    I only have an HP printer as the ink doesn't dry out as fast as some and if it does it's just a cartridge change and not a ruined Print Head. I think the amount of time a cartridge lasts (print wise) depends on your printer model.
    I can imagine a time, not too far away, when the printer goes altogether...
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    • lisa701
    • By lisa701 25th Sep 14, 12:41 PM
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    lisa701
    I use my printer a lot for both black and colour. I rarely print photographs anymore but thats only because of the cost of ink.

    I just want to find a more affordable way of continuing to print the papers I require for home office and my studies.

    I'm trying to get my head around how it works. I buy a new cartridge now and it gives a suggested number of pages it will last, but it never lasts that long. So how can this work? Surely if they are using the same sort of calculation then I'm going to run out well before they send me new inks.
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 25th Sep 14, 6:44 PM
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    RumRat
    You have to be continuously connected to HP. They monitor the usage. They are informed when the ink is running low and dispatch new ink. You must have one of the compatible printers, not just any old HP printer.....(There are only 3 of them at the moment)
    There are some FAQ's on THIS page...Should answer your questions...
    Last edited by RumRat; 25-09-2014 at 6:46 PM.
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    • lisa701
    • By lisa701 26th Sep 14, 8:52 AM
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    lisa701
    Thanks. I'd looked at first but it left me with this query.

    If they are monitoring the number of pages you have printed and not the levels of the ink left the scheme will only work if you can get the suggested number of prints out of one of their cartridges.

    My existing printer uses the 301 cartridges as do two of the eligible printers. The standard ones suggest approx 160 - 190 pages but over the past 3 months I've been lucky to get 70 before the print quality is greatly reduced. If HP were monitoring my usage and saw I'd only printed 70 pages its unlikely they would be sending me replacements anytime soon as they believe I can print 160 - 190 pages with those cartridges.

    I'm relucant to get another printer with the same cartridges only to find myself in the same scenario.
    • WLM21
    • By WLM21 10th Nov 14, 5:24 PM
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    WLM21
    .. also on their uk site they state delivery is included in the monthly plan & when you go to sign up it costs almost as much again for standard delivery.
    Originally posted by gdes
    I see it as being included, so surely a phone call to HP could mean free delivery.

    I was temped, but decided to go with a Samsung Laser printer instead, when my old HP one packed in.
    • PM1
    • By PM1 11th Nov 14, 12:38 PM
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    PM1
    OK, I came to this after finding that the thread about HP300 ink refilling http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2291639&page=2 was closed.

    I have refilled my HP 300 cartridges quite a lot, but today (you can tell by the ink on my fingers) am having trouble getting them to work. I have four cartridges that I rotate to get around the chip ID counter. Note that this is just black cartridges. I don't fool around with the colour ones

    Last week I was in Wilkinsons and I noticed that they do a 'compatible' black cartridge for £6.00, which is a lot better than the ~£15 I was paying.

    I would be interested to hear if anyone has tried the Wilko ones.

    PM
  • daniel_mackie
    I have no problems so far!
    I have used HP Instant Ink for a few months now and I have to say I have found it superb. I signed up, they sent me 2 ink's and only started billing me once I started using them. I have had a replacement from them and it come through fine, the inks they send are XL so you have them for a little longer than your average inks you buy online or in store. I was wary but I found them easy to use. I hope they keep it going is all I say and wouldn't go to another brand.
    Last edited by daniel_mackie; 22-01-2015 at 6:40 PM.
    • spud
    • By spud 6th Mar 15, 7:03 AM
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    spud
    Just to say I've been using instant inks since last year when I replaced an old canon printer that was costing over £100 a year in ink. Compatibles never worked that well for me either, esp for photos that I occassionally print. I signed up for the 100 pages a month that I am close to using each month though don't really monitor. So for me it's working great and will have halved my yearly spend on ink. Granted, using compatible inks would be cheaper but I've always found them a faff and lacking the quality. I would say to check out 7dayshop for compatibles as theirs were cheap and not too bad (most have reviews to help you decide).
  • Andy2013
    As a small business owner I print a lot of documents work related and I use the 300 plan which works really well, if I used standard cartridges I would go through an XL every 2 weeks which for black and colour would come out at £50-60 a month, where as I pay £7.99 on HP instant ink and its delivered to my door in good time to replace it.


    Its based on pages, so even a small dot would be classed as a page but a business owner in my town uses this service to print full colour A4 photos and this would cost hundreds of £££££s in ink so it all depends on what you print as to whether it works in your favour.
    • dipsomaniac
    • By dipsomaniac 10th Mar 17, 2:08 PM
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    dipsomaniac
    the best printer decision i ever made as it takes all the grief out of buying replacement cartridges. my old printer took 4 x cartridges that averaged £15 each. they all used to empty at different times and i resented paying for them. also, you never knew if you were getting genuine cartridges or if they would arrive half full. now i don't even think about ink. the piece of mind is worth ever penny of the 1.99 i pay each month.
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