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  • Coopdivi
    • #2
    • 20th Oct 13, 5:10 PM
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    • 20th Oct 13, 5:10 PM
    I love the big banner on the home page which covers virtually everything up and can only be removed by entering an email address. Fortunately they accepted my made up one : qwertyuiop @ gmail.com

    The contact address is in Panama. When I copied and pasted this address, enclosed by speech marks, into Google I got nine entries for seven different websites. One of them, according to Web of Trust, is 'Engaged in the use of misleading marketing tactics.'

    http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/vidzstar.com

    The address on the Domain Registration is in Jakarta, Indonesia. Copying/pasting this into Google gave me precisely one entry, for this website. This leads me to conclude that it doesn't exist and has been falsified. Also note the Hotmail email address because all reputable websites use a throwaway email address don't they?

    http://whois.domaintools.com/hotcrazydeal.com

    As for the bargains well, there's plenty of them isn't there? After much deliberation I decided to go for 2 Pizza Hut pizzas for a 1.

    Hotcrazydeal don't faff around with extra pages for payment details. Whatever deal you click on you are immediately presented with a form for entering your credit card number etc. These pages are encrypted but there is no card payment processor present and they aren't precise about how much your card will be debited by either.

    Whatever you decide to buy, you will automatically become a 'premium member' with a free 72 hour trial. If you don't cancel your credit card will be debited 29.90 every 30 days.

    My conclusion: It's obviously a con website run by criminals. Most of the deals are too good to be true and almost certainly don't actually exist. Panama is a notorious haven for crooks. The trial will be impossible to cancel and the monthly membership will be a continuous payment authority which will be difficult to stop.

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ban...rring-payments

    Don't waste your hard earned money.
  • AMO
    • #3
    • 20th Oct 13, 7:50 PM
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    • 20th Oct 13, 7:50 PM
    Thanks. They're pasting all over Facebook so I am sure that many people less suspicious than I will have signed up.
  • pinkneonmartini
    • #4
    • 24th Oct 13, 12:48 PM
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    • 24th Oct 13, 12:48 PM
    i've just seen this too, and was intrigued by the 30 supermarket shop for a 1 with a vague mention of a membership "after 72hr trial"

    Will give it a wide berth me thinks
    Debt@LBM1=4050 1st DFD 27/08/09 Debt@LBM2=11,633
    CC1M= 349.70/2400 CC2B= 876.88/7233 CC3T= 125.88/2000 but ALL at 0%
    Make 10/day Y13,586Y23,183 Yr34k Jan627Feb349Mar323.41/310
    DFW NERD 1068
    Avios 8,083 11/140lbs lost
  • bargain_mad_22
    • #5
    • 25th Nov 13, 6:08 PM
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    • 25th Nov 13, 6:08 PM
    I was tempted by the "Two Pizza's for 1" offer having seen it on Facebook.

    Decided to call the helpline prior to purchasing to see if I could find out more on them.

    Phone rings for a bit, then you get: "Thank you for calling Hot Crazy Deal,, sorry we can't take your call right now, please call again later"

    If they were legit they would at least pick up the phone. Avoid!
  • anitaperezvogel
    • #6
    • 25th Nov 13, 9:18 PM
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    • 25th Nov 13, 9:18 PM
    Do any of you, please, have a clue how to cancel the already (unfortunately proceeded transaction?
    Is there any chance to move away from it within certain time period (i.e. 24 hours or so)?
    Thanks a lot in advance for your advices! Better should have read this forum before
    Last edited by anitaperezvogel; 25-11-2013 at 9:23 PM. Reason: Found the information in previous post from Coopdivi - THANK YOU!
  • Nikki2207
    • #7
    • 26th Nov 13, 8:03 AM
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    • 26th Nov 13, 8:03 AM
    I would suggest you contact your bank & ask that they do not let any payments be authourised, or to be even safer just report your card lost that way card number will be cancelled immediately & no payment will be taken. Am so glad found this thread as was also tempted by 1 of their "fantastic" offers.
    I have had a look through the terms & conditions & it does state that there is a 14 day cooling off period but they could have this stated just to look legit, I will not use them until I read some positive feedback from the public x
  • andiecayne
    • #8
    • 26th Nov 13, 9:07 PM
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    • 26th Nov 13, 9:07 PM
    You can't even read the terms and conditions, so no way I was going to enter an e-mail address and click okay. Whenever you are suspicious of things like this, it's best to search google for "...." scam - this is how I found this forum on this particular topic.
    Unfortunately, facebook didn't allow me to tell them why I didn't want to see this ad anymore - I will, however, certainly forward some of the info I read here.

    Thanks guys and gals!
    Last edited by andiecayne; 26-11-2013 at 9:19 PM. Reason: add more info
  • andiecayne
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    • 26th Nov 13, 9:21 PM
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    • 26th Nov 13, 9:21 PM
    PS I have reported the ad to Facebook and I did manage to get to the offer I'd seen there by entering an invented e-mail address too! So I took a screenshot of it and added this to the report.
    If you do enter a fake e-mail you are also finally able to read the terms and conditions - dodgy dodgy indeed.
    Last edited by andiecayne; 26-11-2013 at 9:33 PM. Reason: more info
  • jlianna
    I have unknowingly made a purchase on this website.

    Would anyone have any advice for me: I have contacted the bank and asked them not to allow any unauthorized debit orders to be set up and have given them the website's name. They have said that they will make a note of this, although they cannot guarantee anything. Do I have any kind of protection against these people?

    Is this not that the bank has made enough or is there something more that I should/could do?

    I'd really appreciate any advice
  • SeptimusFry
    If you pay for something, goods or services, by c/c, then the c/c issuer is 100% liable for the aptness of what you buy.
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  • GalinDKolev
    i have unknowingly made a purchase on this website.

    Would anyone have any advice for me: I have contacted the bank and asked them not to allow any unauthorized debit orders to be set up and have given them the website's name. They have said that they will make a note of this, although they cannot guarantee anything. Do i have any kind of protection against these people?

    Is this not that the bank has made enough or is there something more that i should/could do?

    I'd really appreciate any advice
    Originally posted by jlianna
    the only good thing you can do is to claim your card's stolen and get new one; your bank cannot guarantee protection cause that's your money meaning they really don't care about you
  • GalinDKolev
    you can't even read the terms and conditions, so no way i was going to enter an e-mail address and click okay. Whenever you are suspicious of things like this, it's best to search google for "...." scam - this is how i found this forum on this particular topic.
    Unfortunately, facebook didn't allow me to tell them why i didn't want to see this ad anymore - i will, however, certainly forward some of the info i read here.

    Thanks guys and gals!
    Originally posted by andiecayne
    my mate got that oyster deal the other day and got charged that monthly 29.90 fee out of nothing
    we talked to them they said they located in mauritius
    anyone aware how to fight back?
    Any government or whatever body to report?
    Will it work?
  • billybiff
    sorry but I hae just noticed that 29.90 has been taken from my bank account .sad to say the mrs saw an ad for an e reader for the price of 1pound any ideas on what I can do to stop them getting anymore money as I don't think we will c anything from them .
  • GalinDKolev
    sorry but I hae just noticed that 29.90 has been taken from my bank account .sad to say the mrs saw an ad for an e reader for the price of 1pound any ideas on what I can do to stop them getting anymore money as I don't think we will c anything from them .
    Originally posted by billybiff
    close friend was charged same way the other day, he got the deal from Facebook ad, he talked to his bank they managed to get the money back canceling the subscription
  • George Michael
    Do people honestly believe that any company will sell them an e-reader for 1 instead of 40 or a 30 Oyster card top up for only 3 and then not have a system in place to get the full value of the goods they sold off cheaply?

    Provided that you read their T&C's carefully, and despite what was poster earlier:
    You can't even read the terms and conditions, so no way I was going to enter an e-mail address and click okay
    Once you have signed in, their T&C's are shown both by a link at the bottom of the main page and by a link on the payment page. (this one isn't easy to see, but the other info is simple to find.)

    There are also full details shown at the bottom of the main page that are viewable without the need to click any links.
    https://hotcrazydeal.com/welcome-offers?category=0

    Payment is made by credit card via an encrypted SSL connection validated by payment processor system. To fully enjoy all the benefits provided by HotCrazyDeal and to receive our amazing offers each week, you must subscribe to a monthly membership without any minimum commitment period and without cancellation fee. Pricing conditions: unlimited free access to the service during the trial period! At the end of the trial period the monthly membership fee is charged to your payment method and renewed automatically for each subsequent period, at the price in vigour i.e. 29.90.
    As for this bit of "advice".
    the only good thing you can do is to claim your card's stolen and get new one; your bank cannot guarantee protection cause that's your money meaning they really don't care about you
    As there is about a month between signing up and paying for the goods and the 29.90 being taken, how will the card user explain to their card issuer that the card was lost a few weeks before reporting the loss, especially if they have used the card at any time since the 29.90 payment was authorised?

    I'm not saying that this sort of website isn't aimed at gullible or naive internet users, but in the end, people have to take some responsibility for reading up on exactly what they are agreeing to when giving credit card out to unknown companies.
  • Searcher
    Do people honestly believe that any company will sell them an e-reader for 1 instead of 40 or a 30 Oyster card top up for only 3 and then not have a system in place to get the full value of the goods they sold off cheaply?

    Provided that you read their T&C's carefully, and despite what was poster earlier:

    Once you have signed in, their T&C's are shown both by a link at the bottom of the main page and by a link on the payment page. (this one isn't easy to see, but the other info is simple to find.)

    There are also full details shown at the bottom of the main page that are viewable without the need to click any links.
    https://hotcrazydeal.com/welcome-offers?category=0



    As for this bit of "advice".


    As there is about a month between signing up and paying for the goods and the 29.90 being taken, how will the card user explain to their card issuer that the card was lost a few weeks before reporting the loss, especially if they have used the card at any time since the 29.90 payment was authorised?

    I'm not saying that this sort of website isn't aimed at gullible or naive internet users, but in the end, people have to take some responsibility for reading up on exactly what they are agreeing to when giving credit card out to unknown companies.
    Originally posted by George Michael

    But that would be too easy


    I had a look at the page by entering a random email address and it's as clear as day how they work.
    It's right there on the front page in plain English


    Once you subscribe to HotCrazyDeal, you will be charged the nominal amount for the selected offer and will be granted a 7 days free trial period during which you will have access to the full spectrum of amazing offers available on the site. After the trial period, your membership shall be renewed every 30 days for 29.90
  • Truepat
    Never ever sign up to any recurring transaction using a credit card - if any company demands this as the only method of payment then stay well clear.

    It is very difficult to cancel recurring credit card transactions and it can be spun out for months.
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    When you are done moaning remember that there are people who would love to have your standard of living!
  • tulipchickuk
    This is a repost from another thread

    oh dear i cannot believe i have been so gullible... i bought the oyster deal, topped up my oyster card then sent them my scanned receipt along with my paypal details, as requested.

    the small print said i had 168 hours free trial membership before i would be charged the monthly fee of 29.90, which i duly was.

    still no sign of the refunded 25 in my paypal a/c but then the t&c did say 2-4 weeks! i want to ensure no further monies is taken from my account but my bank has told me the only thing they can do is CANCEL my new card (i got it on Dec 1st) and issue me with a new card

    won't mind losing the 29.80 so much as long as its only one payment
    am embarrassed that i fell for that one...

    update
    i just checked with my bank to try to ensure no further monies are taken, and they told me HCD actually had a put a hold on a further 29.90, which my bank has cancelled; they also cancelled my debit card.

    thank goodness for this site, I am grateful i didn't lose more.
    in the unlikely event i get refunded for the oyster topup, i will of course let you all know

    btw, my bank says they can chase HCD IF I don't get the refund.
    Last edited by tulipchickuk; 09-12-2013 at 5:52 PM. Reason: update
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