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    • HurdyGurdy
    • By HurdyGurdy 10th Aug 13, 11:17 AM
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    Unlicenced driver - can they drive on non public roads?
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    • 10th Aug 13, 11:17 AM
    Unlicenced driver - can they drive on non public roads? 10th Aug 13 at 11:17 AM
    Just wondering. If someone hasn't got a driving licence, can the drive in places like safari parks, as they are not public roads? Or do you need a licence to drive anywhere.
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    • paddedjohn
    • By paddedjohn 10th Aug 13, 6:53 PM
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    It is private - so no licence required. Public 'access' is a red herring as you will know with Private Parking Companies doing all they can to legitimise their pursuit of drivers to pay their parking invoices.

    Any landowner can either let, or explicitly give permission for anyone to drive on their property - there is nothing that requires them to ensure a valid licence is issued to the driver. HOWEVER, insurance remains an issue - would the same landowner waive rights to pursue the unlicensed driver if they caused damage to their property? I doubt it!

    Or if the same driver ran into the car in front after being pursued by monkeys? No police involvement is relevant, but the aggrieved party may have pursue the uninsured driver for their damages and costs.
    Originally posted by Buzby


    If the car has a policy then the insurance will have to pay out any 3rd party claims regardless of who was driving or where.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
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    The rules only apply to what suits them.
    End of story
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    • mgdavid
    • By mgdavid 10th Aug 13, 10:30 PM
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    If the car has a policy then the insurance will have to pay out any 3rd party claims regardless of who was driving or where.
    Originally posted by paddedjohn
    untrue - best example is if it is stolen and then involved in a collision, the innocent victim needs to be fully comp and claim on his own insurance as the stolen car's owner's insurance will not pay out.
    A salary slave no more.....
    • Yorkie1
    • By Yorkie1 10th Aug 13, 10:48 PM
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    There are two separate 'public' issues raised in this thread, which are a little overlapped.

    A car park is not a road as defined by s.192 (ignoring the public access issue - it's the rest of the definition which isn't met). Therefore the licence offence is not relevant. However, the offence of no insurance can be committed on a road or other public place - and a car park meets the test of a public place.
    • vaio
    • By vaio 10th Aug 13, 10:50 PM
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    untrue - best example is if it is stolen and then involved in a collision, the innocent victim needs to be fully comp and claim on his own insurance as the stolen car's owner's insurance will not pay out.
    Originally posted by mgdavid
    Nah, read RTA 1988 s151
    • Aretnap
    • By Aretnap 10th Aug 13, 11:23 PM
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    There are two separate 'public' issues raised in this thread, which are a little overlapped.

    A car park is not a road as defined by s.192 (ignoring the public access issue - it's the rest of the definition which isn't met). Therefore the licence offence is not relevant. However, the offence of no insurance can be committed on a road or other public place - and a car park meets the test of a public place.
    Originally posted by Yorkie1
    Indeed, there are sections of the RTA which apply only on a "road", others which apply on "a road or other public place". The requirement to hold a licence only applies on a road. So in theory you could legally drive in a public car park with no licence - but only if you could find someone willing to insure you with no licence.
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