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    NotYourStar
    Britannia Parking Notice: Confused, ignore or POPLA?
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    • 1st Aug 13, 11:56 PM
    Britannia Parking Notice: Confused, ignore or POPLA? 1st Aug 13 at 11:56 PM
    Hi all,

    This evening I received a PCN from Brittania Parking, for being "parked in a restricted area". I was parked in a car park, not within a marked bay, but not on any lines that signified parking was not allowed and not blocking any entrances or exits or any other cars. No payment was needed as I had registered my details with the bingo hall my friends and I were at.
    I'm just writing this as I'm a little confused. I've had a PCN in the past from another company and ignored it thanks to advice here, and they did eventually leave me alone. Problem is, I've been reading about this new thing that's come in in October 2012 about Popla appeals and I'm not sure what to do? Do I ignore or do I appeal?

    Technically, I was in the wrong as I wasn't in a marked bay....but my car fit in the space without blocking anything or getting in the way of anybody, so I was causing no harm by being parked there. There were no markings on the ground stating parking wasn't allowed there.

    Anyone have any advice please? I'm useless at appealing against anything and getting a little worried
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    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 2nd Aug 13, 7:03 AM
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    Guys Dad
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    • 2nd Aug 13, 7:03 AM
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    • 2nd Aug 13, 7:03 AM
    Do nothing till you get a Notice to Keeper. If you get one, do a simple apply appeal stating you were a customer and you parked without any obstruction in an authorised place and demand photographic evidence.

    If car park was full, say that too. Ask them to cancel ticket or send you a POPLA code.

    You will probably get a refusal but then we hit them with other points at that point.

    In parallel see if the bingo hall can do anything.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 12th Aug 13, 1:11 PM
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    • 12th Aug 13, 1:11 PM
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    • 12th Aug 13, 1:11 PM
    Hi all,

    This evening I received a PCN from Brittania Parking, for being "parked in a restricted area". I was parked in a car park, not within a marked bay, but not on any lines that signified parking was not allowed and not blocking any entrances or exits or any other cars. No payment was needed as I had registered my details with the bingo hall my friends and I were at.
    I'm just writing this as I'm a little confused. I've had a PCN in the past from another company and ignored it thanks to advice here, and they did eventually leave me alone. Problem is, I've been reading about this new thing that's come in in October 2012 about Popla appeals and I'm not sure what to do? Do I ignore or do I appeal?

    Technically, I was in the wrong as I wasn't in a marked bay....but my car fit in the space without blocking anything or getting in the way of anybody, so I was causing no harm by being parked there. There were no markings on the ground stating parking wasn't allowed there.

    Anyone have any advice please? I'm useless at appealing against anything and getting a little worried
    Originally posted by NotYourStar


    When you get the postal Notice to Keeper, as Guy's Dad says, (NOT BEFORE) send a challenge to that letter (not mentioning the actual PCN nor the driver nor what happened). Here are some examples:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=62538357&posted=1

    But usually a strong complaint to the retailers/managers on site, showing that you were a genuine customer, can get these fake PCNs cancelled. And Britannia are as tame as you get and should cancel fairly easily IMHO.

    If they don't, post back when you get a POPLA code and in the meantime I urge you to read other threads about POPLA appeals (loads and loads from page 1 backwards have links to POPLA appeal wording!). And read the 'POPLA appeals' success sticky thread at the top of the forum, mainly reading the most recent updates on wins and what the adjudicators said. This will NOT be a short appeal at POPLA stage about mitigating circumstances or 'what happened' (you'd lose if you did that!) so read up on it while waiting, if the bingo hall are useless when you assertively complain about this harassment.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • NotYourStar
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:05 PM
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:05 PM
    Notice to keeper arrived this morning so now where do i go?
  • Hovite
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:21 PM
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:21 PM
    You appeal using the PPC's process. Use the link Coupon Mad has posted for examples.
  • NotYourStar
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:29 PM
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:29 PM
    Ok. They have attached an appeal form, so shall I fill that out too? Also have sent me photos of my car that clearly shows no hashed markings or signs saying I can't park there!
  • Hovite
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:33 PM
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:33 PM
    Personally I prefer to use electronic ways of appealing because it's free but you'll need to read what they've sent you to see what ways of appealing are offered. If you do send the form then make sure you get free proof of postage.

    The photos are worthless.
  • NotYourStar
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:43 PM
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    • 11th Sep 13, 12:43 PM
    They've said they accept this form attached to an email so I will do that
    I was hoping the photos would work in my favour showing I'm not actually blocking anything or in any restricted area?
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 11th Sep 13, 1:47 PM
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    Guys Dad
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    • 11th Sep 13, 1:47 PM
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    • 11th Sep 13, 1:47 PM
    Make sure you get an acknowledgement as well and if not, send a copy by surface mail with a cert. of posting.

    Your appeal point should state that the area where you parked had no restriction notices or lines and that their signage on parking in marked bays was deficient.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Sep 13, 2:34 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    Notice to keeper arrived this morning so now where do i go?
    Originally posted by NotYourStar
    Corrected that to a smiley grinning face for you...because this is where you will win if you word it right!



    They've said they accept this form attached to an email so I will do that
    I was hoping the photos would work in my favour showing I'm not actually blocking anything or in any restricted area?
    Originally posted by NotYourStar

    Yep but that's not how you word a winning POPLA appeal. You could include the photos but it would be one point of many. Check the linked thread below:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=62180281&posted=1

    HTH
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 11-09-2013 at 2:37 PM.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

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