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    • busybee100
    • By busybee100 4th Feb 18, 3:43 PM
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    busybee100
    As molerat says fixed rate refers to the cost. Eon do fixed tariffs for E7. Have a look on your account or ask for the specific tariff then you can look it up to make sure it's the correct one for you.

  • E.ON Company Representative: Malc
    E.ON Economy 7
    hi.

    This is my first time posting, but Iím in a real state of confusion around my electricity bills and am concerned that Eon May have mis-sold me on my tariff.

    Moved into a 2 bed too floor flat. We have storage heaters in every room, immersion heater, full electric house. So, by the general consensus I have seen on this website and others, we should be on the Economy 7 tariff (note. Our meter does split between a day and a night rate already) However! When setting up with Eon, and giving them this information, they said a fixed rate tariff would be the best choice for us.

    We recently had the meter replaced as the old one was faulty, and the readings were obviously 00000 for night and day when installed. Then, 11 days later 00074 for day, and 00261 for night. I contacted Eon, who assured me over the phone that we were definitely better off on the fixed rate still. Im assuming this is because our summer usage at night will be so low that it all balances out. But canít help feel those numbers do NOT currently add up.

    Any help or advice would be appreciated. My current plan is ride it out and try to manage the amount of energy we are using a bit better through the winter and see what happens up until we are up for renewal. But that is just down to my limited experience in these matters, and probably some naivety.
    Originally posted by Cdeeks
    Hello Cdeeks and welcome to the Forums.

    Already some excellent advice from molerat and busybee100. Thanks both. To confirm, our fixed rate tariffs guarantee the price per kWh and daily standing charge will stay the same for the duration of the agreement.

    If you've registered with our website, have a look at the tariffs we currently have available. If there's anything better, you can change through there in a few clicks. Don't worry about exit fees. They don't apply when moving from one of our tariffs to another.

    For a fuller picture of what's available, pop your details on to the independent price comparison sites. These will list the tariffs available both with us and with the other suppliers. Here, exit fees might apply if you change supplier unless you're inside the renewal period (open 49 calendar days before a fixed tariff ends until 20 working days after).

    With Economy 7, you have 7 hours of cheaper off peak electricity during the night. Generally, the off peak times are active between midnight and 7am although these times aren't set in stone and do vary depending on the region and metering set up at the property. If you don't already know them, we'll be happy to tell you these times.

    Economy 7 meters are usually the most cost effective set up for all electric properties with storage heaters. The storage heaters charge up during the cheaper off peak times and release heat gradually throughout the day.

    The lower rates apply to all electricity used during these times. I know these aren't particularly sociable times but, if possible, using timers on high load appliances like washing machines, tumble dryers etc might help you save a bit. There's more information on our website about ways to save money by saving energy.

    Hope this is of interest Cdeeks. Let me know if you need any more information as happy to help.

    Malc
    ďOfficial Company Representative
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    • xxnikkib76xx
    • By xxnikkib76xx 6th Feb 18, 1:06 PM
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    xxnikkib76xx
    Hi. I was wondering if anyone could help me.
    I have two pre payment meters one for economy7 which I use for my storage heaters and water heater throughout the night and the second for your everyday electric use. My econony7 is with sse and the everyday electric supplier is with Utilita.
    The problem Iím having is my economy7 seems to be using an awful lot of money I put in around £35-£45 per week just for my heating. I have storage heaters in 6 rooms but only 5 are being used and a small water tank.
    I was just wondering if this right as I always thought the night time rate was a lot cheaper. Last night/this morning I put the meter onto emergency at 01:08 and throughout the night it used all the emergency plus and extra £1.06, Iím thinking £6.06 is a lot for 6 hours use. Am I right in thinking this?
    Can anyone recommend who is the best supplier for my economy7 meter. I have no problem with my other supplier for the meter for everyday electric.
    Please help I really cannot afford to keep this up.
    • ImDoingItForMe
    • By ImDoingItForMe 7th Feb 18, 7:26 AM
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    ImDoingItForMe
    If it helps just one of my storage heaters running for 7 days costs me over £13 a week. So x that by 5 and the cost of running yours seems about right. They are expensive.
    • charlieheard
    • By charlieheard 8th Feb 18, 4:08 PM
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    charlieheard
    We don't have storage heaters, but we've just bought an electric car for SWMBO to commute into Leeds and back and to save on diesel for shorter trips at the weekends. The battery capacity is 22kwh, but typical daily consumption is 7-12kwh. We're currently on a fixed single-rate tariff with EDF till August 2018, so we just plug in the car to charge whenever we get back. This is going to increase our electricity consumption by 50-70%. The car has a charge timer, so we can set it to charge at certain times, so we could easily use that if we went E7.

    Is it worth going for an E7 meter, and how would we go about it? I've looked online, but can't see anything on EDF's site, or any more general info on changing. Can we just get a smart meter installed nowadays, or do we need a special E7 meter? We have solar panels - will these be affected? I'm assuming you don't need to modify the internal wiring to take advantage of the reduced rates like my parents did years ago with storage heaters
    Jumbo

    "You may have speed, but I have momentum"
    • jk0
    • By jk0 8th Feb 18, 4:49 PM
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    jk0
    Charlie, there is a gadget available that puts any spare solar power into your car battery rather than the grid. I think this might work out even cheaper than E7 in the long run.
    • Flowboy
    • By Flowboy 10th Feb 18, 12:49 PM
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    Flowboy
    That sounds like an E10 tariff, with the cheap rate spread over different periods in the day. E7 is only cheap rate at night. At least with SSE that is the case.
    • Flowboy
    • By Flowboy 10th Feb 18, 1:26 PM
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    Flowboy
    Deleted response as was reply to a post I can't now find!
    • Flowboy
    • By Flowboy 10th Feb 18, 1:38 PM
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    Flowboy
    Charlie, assuming you don't have solar PV panels, if you are increasing your usage by 50-70% then E7 should save you money. It is half or less than std day rate. You will have to have your cable to car on a timer so you only charge overnight between say 12.30 & 5am (supplier e7 hours vary a bit). Also you shouldn't run the cable over the pavement it might be used as a trip accident claim against you!
    • charlieheard
    • By charlieheard 15th Feb 18, 1:58 PM
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    charlieheard
    Thanks for the replies - just realised I hadn't replied even though I've been reading them.

    I've seen the Zappi charger, which manages charging to your solar panels, but the car is seldom here during the day, so we can't benefit unless we invest in battery storage. I am toying with the idea of diverting the electricity produced into the immersion heater, though.

    The car has a built-in charging timer, so we could easily use that if we did go E7. I'm not clear what needs changing in the house nowadays if we do go E7. Do we need 2 separate meters still, or is a smart meter enough? And how we go about swapping? Our current supplier EDF don't seem to have a way of converting, and I can't find any useful info via google.
    Jumbo

    "You may have speed, but I have momentum"
    • jk0
    • By jk0 15th Feb 18, 11:41 PM
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    jk0
    Charlie, what I did was to switch to my old area electricity board for energy temporarily, and asked them to install an E7 meter. Then I changed to the cheapest supplier.

    You don't need new wiring. Just use the car timer as you mention.
    • charlieheard
    • By charlieheard 18th Feb 18, 10:42 AM
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    charlieheard
    Thanks for that. Just to check that I need a specific E7 meter - a normal smart meter isn't enough
    Jumbo

    "You may have speed, but I have momentum"
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