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  • jamesd
    I don't know, maybe an anticipated sale fell through? (shrug) Agree that an extension seems like a better move for the borrower, though since I don't know what was happening, maybe not.
    • shoi
    • By shoi 16th Oct 17, 12:45 PM
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    shoi
    The p2pif keep touting the possibility of getting sued by some borrower who feels libelled, and for that reason they have insisted that borrowers names are hidden like this b******r, which makes it extremely hard to follow or find other people's opinions.

    Does anyone know if this is a realistic hazard?
    • Flobberchops
    • By Flobberchops 16th Oct 17, 2:16 PM
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    Flobberchops
    Shoi - the convention of censoring out borrower identity seems a bit ridiculous to me, especially as many platforms will openly show loan information on their public sites. Lenders are at greater risk than borrowers so surely we should have the prerogative of more transparency. When it comes to P2PIF though; their house, their rules, even if I don't fully understand/approve.
    I work for a UK bank, but any comments made on this forum are solely my personal opinion. Caveat Emptor!
    • takesyourchances
    • By takesyourchances 23rd Oct 17, 10:41 PM
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    takesyourchances
    I see the aircraft loans are Ablrate are due to re-pay soon, which is a pity as was hoping they would pay to term and was actually topping up on them recently.

    Awaiting some new loans for Ablrate so hope they work in when these repay. I have not been as active with fresh cash in MT or Collateral in recent weeks, I see a MT loan was pulled, I decided against it anyway reading the P2P forum.

    Any thoughts on the Student loans still being filled on Collateral? I may put something in as have nothing in them. Asides all of this, nothing major with my P2P at the moment
    • TheShape
    • By TheShape 23rd Oct 17, 11:47 PM
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    TheShape
    I see the aircraft loans are Ablrate are due to re-pay soon, which is a pity as was hoping they would pay to term and was actually topping up on them recently.

    Awaiting some new loans for Ablrate so hope they work in when these repay. I have not been as active with fresh cash in MT or Collateral in recent weeks, I see a MT loan was pulled, I decided against it anyway reading the P2P forum.

    Any thoughts on the Student loans still being filled on Collateral? I may put something in as have nothing in them. Asides all of this, nothing major with my P2P at the moment
    Originally posted by takesyourchances
    I think you have to be very cautious buying at a premium on Ablrate. If a loan repays early, I think you could potentially lose money on that transaction.

    I invested in both the new loans at MT and have reinvested my returned investment from the withdrawn loan in the other. There is a major update on a Hotel & Restaurant loan due tomorrow, looks to be more bad news for MT.
    • takesyourchances
    • By takesyourchances 24th Oct 17, 12:34 AM
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    takesyourchances
    I think you have to be very cautious buying at a premium on Ablrate. If a loan repays early, I think you could potentially lose money on that transaction.

    I invested in both the new loans at MT and have reinvested my returned investment from the withdrawn loan in the other. There is a major update on a Hotel & Restaurant loan due tomorrow, looks to be more bad news for MT.
    Originally posted by TheShape
    Yes bit of a lesson there with premiums on Ablrate, it was several hundred, nothing too major but did not expect them to pay up early. So I could lose on that transaction as you said.

    I put some money into the loan with the 1% cash back. That sounds bad news on the Hotel and Restaurant loan due tomorrow, they really could do without more problems as it has been several of late. I must look it up, I am a bit behind on some of the news on things and between some defaults and loans pulled, it is not seeming too easy for MT in recent months.
    • takesyourchances
    • By takesyourchances 24th Oct 17, 12:41 AM
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    takesyourchances
    There is a major update on a Hotel & Restaurant loan due tomorrow, looks to be more bad news for MT.
    Originally posted by TheShape
    Just read it there, does not seem good. I have a small amount in that one. It won't help things if this defaults as well.
    • msallen
    • By msallen 24th Oct 17, 5:25 AM
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    msallen
    Just read it there, does not seem good. I have a small amount in that one. It won't help things if this defaults as well.
    Originally posted by takesyourchances
    I don't think there's much doubt it will default as the restaurant/hotel is in administration. However I have a lot more confidence in the valuation for this asset than many others so I expect we will eventually see all capital returned (and all the post-default interest too if it doesn't drag on too long).
    • bigadaj
    • By bigadaj 24th Oct 17, 12:32 PM
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    bigadaj
    I don't think there's much doubt it will default as the restaurant/hotel is in administration. However I have a lot more confidence in the valuation for this asset than many others so I expect we will eventually see all capital returned (and all the post-default interest too if it doesn't drag on too long).
    Originally posted by msallen


    I'm not so bullish on the full return of capital on this one.


    The valuation looks generous (don't they all), and given that lytham now looks as though it's going to result in a haircut to investors at what looked to me like a conservative valuation, then I have my doubts.
    • takesyourchances
    • By takesyourchances 24th Oct 17, 1:02 PM
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    takesyourchances
    I'm not so bullish on the full return of capital on this one.


    The valuation looks generous (don't they all), and given that lytham now looks as though it's going to result in a haircut to investors at what looked to me like a conservative valuation, then I have my doubts.
    Originally posted by bigadaj
    I'd agree, how many of these places are for sale after failing throughout the UK. I've a bit in but thankfully less than 1% of my p2p.
    • Jordan Stodart
    • By Jordan Stodart 20th Nov 17, 10:28 AM
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    Jordan Stodart
    Is anyone aware of any Eurozone P2P platforms that allow international investors AND offer a provision fund as security measure?? Thanks
    • shoi
    • By shoi 27th Nov 17, 8:32 AM
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    shoi
    Mintos for one have buyback on some loans (not that I personally altogether trust Mintos who are too intertwined with at least some of their loan introducers, and have been known to redeem loans which were paying a high rate of interest and then offer them out again at lower rates, in the process shafting lenders who had bought the loans on the SM at a premium)
    • Jordan Stodart
    • By Jordan Stodart 11th Dec 17, 12:21 PM
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    Jordan Stodart
    Thansk @shoi. Quite a few similar platforms to Mintos who offer buyback I've noticed. Interesting to see how reg framework develops in Baltic countries where platforms have sprung up en masse in recent years - particularly given the double digit returns on offer! Potentially good options to diversify exposure and currency, however.
    • takesyourchances
    • By takesyourchances 11th Dec 17, 8:00 PM
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    takesyourchances
    I see a lot for sale after the update on the Newcastle loan today on moneything. MT has not been that great as of late, I have withdrew some re-paid funds and put them into my S&S ISA when little has been happening.

    I took a bit of the loan on Ablrate today, already got money with this borrower so was a smaller top up. Not sure on the boat company loan.

    It seems that a lot of the loans across Collateral, MT and Ablrate are not as attractive of late compared to earlier in the year. I have been putting some into the 7% accounts on Assetz Capital when the others have been a bit more quiet or not of interest.

    At the moment I am not sure how much more to put into p2p and I would want to see some of the defaults at MT returned or concluded as well with this platform before putting more into them..

    Thanks.
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