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    • SailorSam
    • By SailorSam 10th Nov 12, 12:06 AM
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    Police Auctions
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    • 10th Nov 12, 12:06 AM
    Police Auctions 10th Nov 12 at 12:06 AM
    I've just come across this website, it's an auction for the Police. Stolen and lost property, there are some real bargains on their... bikes for £1
    Unfortunately for me they all seem to be down south and if you're the lucky bidder you need to pick it up.
    But if you live in the right area you could bag yourself a bargain.

    http://www.bumblebeeauctions.co.uk/XcAuctionPro.asp
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    • soolin
    • By soolin 14th Nov 14, 8:36 AM
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    sorry but as a new user the forum wont let me use the link 0 how often do I have to post to be not classed as an outsider
    Originally posted by BlimeyOriely
    The number of posts is not defined and only those in the forum team at MSE know the logarithm.

    Very old thread here that users might want to take a look at as well as doing a Google search which brings up some interesting results:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=21785
    Last edited by soolin; 14-11-2014 at 8:40 AM.
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    • RFW
    • By RFW 14th Nov 14, 9:20 AM
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    The number of posts is not defined and only those in the forum team at MSE know the logarithm.

    Very old thread here that users might want to take a look at as well as doing a Google search which brings up some interesting results:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=21785
    Originally posted by soolin
    I'm going back a good few years but when I was in the auction business this company would often have incorrect details of our auctions. Disgruntled customers would turn up with their paper in hand annoyed that there was no auction that day. So if you do happen to have a copy always check before hand.

    Auctions are public, they aren't secretive, they want customers.
    There's no need to pay for details that are easy enough to find with a little bit of research. Most auctions (there are still a few that don't) are online and have free email subscriptions.
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    • cobster
    • By cobster 1st Jul 15, 2:41 PM
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    I used the bumblebee site a number of years ago to buy a bike. At that time you couldn't check before you buy (am hoping that has changed now) and I took it to the bike shop for a service on it to be told that it was not repairable. It looked fine to me when I collected it .... so just be aware as there was no comeback. Let's hope the site has changed.
    • oscarward
    • By oscarward 1st Jul 15, 8:47 PM
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    I was looking at a set of ski's from Oxford. I asked a relative, a skiing instructor, if they were worth the £1.


    His comment was the bag my be worth it but the best use for the ski's would be to put on the wall of a chalet as a curiosity!
    • tinkywiky
    • By tinkywiky 7th Jul 15, 12:33 PM
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    Don't assume they are as described. They are not ..!
    After receiving an email from MSE, I thought I will try my luck with bike. To my surprise there was one available from my local police station. Won the bike, paid through Nochex and went to pickup the bike next day. I was shocked see some rusty metal..! The description says "signs of wear and rust". Now I am stuck with this and I may end up paying to get rid of it. I called the officer who I collected this from, he says he is just a person who helps to deliver it and nothing to do with the auction itself. Sent an email to the advertiser, so far no reply. If it were Ebay, I could have refuse to collect it, I don't think this even allows that.

    Looks like I was really coned by the people who are employed by us to catch the con-men..! How odd..!!
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 7th Jul 15, 12:46 PM
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    Do know of a Couple who "invested" a couple of grand in cameras in an auction on I bidder.
    Excess stock was the claim with some blurb about accuracy.
    Every single camera they got was boxed but knackered and junk.
    They thought they had found an easy way to make some cash.
    Never so...
    They put them back in the same auction to try and get some money back.
    • Kernow666
    • By Kernow666 7th Jul 15, 12:53 PM
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    I used the bumblebee site a number of years ago to buy a bike. At that time you couldn't check before you buy (am hoping that has changed now) and I took it to the bike shop for a service on it to be told that it was not repairable. It looked fine to me when I collected it .... so just be aware as there was no comeback. Let's hope the site has changed.
    Originally posted by cobster
    thats bad , i would say you should make a complaint to the police for dishonesty but its the police you are buying it from

    who'd of thought it the police of all people
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    • tykesi
    • By tykesi 7th Jul 15, 2:08 PM
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    After receiving an email from MSE, I thought I will try my luck with bike. To my surprise there was one available from my local police station. Won the bike, paid through Nochex and went to pickup the bike next day. I was shocked see some rusty metal..! The description says "signs of wear and rust". Now I am stuck with this and I may end up paying to get rid of it. I called the officer who I collected this from, he says he is just a person who helps to deliver it and nothing to do with the auction itself. Sent an email to the advertiser, so far no reply. If it were Ebay, I could have refuse to collect it, I don't think this even allows that.

    Looks like I was really coned by the people who are employed by us to catch the con-men..! How odd..!!
    Originally posted by tinkywiky
    So they tell you it's rusty yet you buy it anyway and then complain it's rusty?

    If you're feeling "conNed" maybe this type of buying isn't for you and you should buy brand new in future?
    • tinkywiky
    • By tinkywiky 7th Jul 15, 2:49 PM
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    So they tell you it's rusty yet you buy it anyway and then complain it's rusty?

    If you're feeling "conNed" maybe this type of buying isn't for you and you should buy brand new in future?
    Originally posted by tykesi
    Just to be clear, it was not just rusty. Both breaks were broken, the gears were not working, front tyre is flat, back tyre is fully worn out and you are very likely to get a fine, if the same police who sold this finds you riding on it..!

    BTW, are you a police too
    • robotrobo
    • By robotrobo 7th Jul 15, 2:57 PM
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    Just to be clear, it was not just rusty. Both breaks were broken, the gears were not working, front tyre is flat, back tyre is fully worn out and you are very likely to get a fine, if the same police who sold this finds you riding on it..!

    BTW, are you a police too
    Originally posted by tinkywiky

    Surely the tyre was only flat at the bottom!

    It may have breaks out of prison?.
    • tykesi
    • By tykesi 8th Jul 15, 9:35 AM
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    Just to be clear, it was not just rusty. Both breaks were broken, the gears were not working, front tyre is flat, back tyre is fully worn out and you are very likely to get a fine, if the same police who sold this finds you riding on it..!

    BTW, are you a police too
    Originally posted by tinkywiky
    But that's not what you said in your original post so how were we to know all that? It's 'brakes' BTW and you can't be fined for riding a rusty bike!

    Spelling police maybe but that's all I am
    • 19lottie82
    • By 19lottie82 8th Jul 15, 10:07 AM
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    I'm totally bewildered as to why MSE keeps promoting these auctions in their weekly emails. They are full of absolute tripe!
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 8th Jul 15, 2:57 PM
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    We made a good few £ from one last year, Normally we only go for something specific that we or someone we know wants, a lot of the time we dont get it because people pay virtually full price for them.

    We went for something specific, Only wanting a cuple of items but found the box included far more than they listed in the catalogue.
    Sold off the excess for a nice profit. Gave a few away as gifts also.

    Whilst there they had some garden benches the plastic ones, I thought £30 ish, adding in the extra costs, They sold for just short of £60, So the buyer paid £80. They had them on sale at B&Q for less.
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    • MattHawkins
    • By MattHawkins 8th Jul 15, 8:30 PM
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    Auction like it's 1999
    I've looked at this auction site once a year for the last few years. It is all junk. The only decent stuff goes for crazy prices considering you've got no idea if it works and the descriptions are extremely vague. I assume the nice stuff never quite makes it on to the site.

    Why would you buy a laptop with no indication it works? You might as well just take £100 to the casino as I reckon your odds are better.

    The site design coupled with "Nochex" means you need to value your own time quite badly for it to be worth trying to trawl through it. Never mind the process of paying and acquiring the item!
    • Abbo24
    • By Abbo24 21st Sep 16, 10:25 AM
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    A warning to all.
    You get some real bargains on bumblebee but it is buyer beware, you cannot view the item until you collect it and by then it is too late to complain or get your money back. I bought 12 signet rings from them paid the £300 when i got them the hallmarks were all there but when I took them to a jewlers they were highly polished brass. So if you like the look of an item ask a lot of questions as if they describe them as they see them there is no refund.
    • Fellwalker
    • By Fellwalker 21st Sep 16, 6:32 PM
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    Fellwalker
    A warning to all.
    You get some real bargains on bumblebee but it is buyer beware, you cannot view the item until you collect it and by then it is too late to complain or get your money back. I bought 12 signet rings from them paid the £300 when i got them the hallmarks were all there but when I took them to a jewlers they were highly polished brass. So if you like the look of an item ask a lot of questions as if they describe them as they see them there is no refund.
    Originally posted by Abbo24
    Well said.
    Why does MSE keep promoting these? Why do Police Forces keep using Bumblebee, rather than a proper site that would not charge entry, and that uses a payment method that has some comeback?
    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 22nd Sep 16, 2:06 AM
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    I'm totally bewildered as to why MSE keeps promoting these auctions in their weekly emails. They are full of absolute tripe!
    Originally posted by 19lottie82
    You posted this in 2015 and MSE are still promoting the auctions as worthwhile.
    • Sparhawke
    • By Sparhawke 22nd Sep 16, 3:53 AM
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    Abbo, didn't you think to return it to the police station in question and make a formal complaint? This is not just buyer beware, they are selling fake jewellery with fake hallmarks, that is illegal and they cannot hide behind an auction site either.

    If the original lot was described as costume with no hallmarks though that would be different.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-wrong-with-a-purchase/report-fake-or-counterfeit-goods/
    Last edited by Sparhawke; 22-09-2016 at 4:37 AM.
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    • RFW
    • By RFW 23rd Sep 16, 8:56 PM
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    Abbo, didn't you think to return it to the police station in question and make a formal complaint? This is not just buyer beware, they are selling fake jewellery with fake hallmarks, that is illegal and they cannot hide behind an auction site either.

    If the original lot was described as costume with no hallmarks though that would be different.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-wrong-with-a-purchase/report-fake-or-counterfeit-goods/
    Originally posted by Sparhawke
    Exactly right. I think in Abbo's case it depends how the items were sold. If the listing said "12 golden coloured metal rings" then there is less chance of a refund than it saying "12 hallmarked gold rings".

    If I was ever unsure of something and had no way of verifying it I'd always err on the side of caution when lotting. Sadly people are quick to con themselves. Occasionally a £5 ring will be worth £1000. More often than not someone will pay £50 thinking it's worth £1000 and it isn't worth £5.

    In Abbo's case I can't see from his post that he has definitely been misled.
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    • mrcol1000
    • By mrcol1000 23rd Sep 16, 9:07 PM
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    Exactly right. I think in Abbo's case it depends how the items were sold. If the listing said "12 golden coloured metal rings" then there is less chance of a refund than it saying "12 hallmarked gold rings".

    If I was ever unsure of something and had no way of verifying it I'd always err on the side of caution when lotting. Sadly people are quick to con themselves. Occasionally a £5 ring will be worth £1000. More often than not someone will pay £50 thinking it's worth £1000 and it isn't worth £5.

    In Abbo's case I can't see from his post that he has definitely been misled.
    Originally posted by RFW
    From my experience, Police Auctions go at great lengths to describe jewellery as either coloured metal or to say you should assume it is custom jewellery. . There is also a warning on every page saying that the police force selling it can not confirm the authenticity of anything.
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