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Old 28-09-2012, 1:22 PM
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Custardy - You are coming across as incredibly confrontation. Are you are RM employee or something?
Even if you are, I'd suggest perhaps taking a step back. You've made 10 posts on the previous page alone!
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Old 28-09-2012, 1:25 PM
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There are somethings I wouldn't mind being left with a neighbour and others that I wouldn't want to be left.

Perhaps we could add "Opt in" as part of our address, so that when we order a particular item we can specify whether it goes to a neighbour or not.
already exists
Its called Safeplace,and is only offered with Tracked at the moment
As for writing on the address,well thats not how it works
the recipient opts in/out of leave with neighbour
The sender writes an address
ergo whats written on the package doesnt matter
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Old 28-09-2012, 1:31 PM
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when you give the address to the sender, you could write opt in as part of it - simples!!
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when you give the address to the sender, you could write opt in as part of it - simples!!
sigh. once again I will write it
The sender writes the address.
The recipent decides on LWN
So by your system. If you dont opt out,the sender can then over rule that?
So if the package says "leave on the doorstep"
That should over rule your request to leave with a neighbour?
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Old 28-09-2012, 1:44 PM
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My point ^ is pretty much made. CUSTARDY! STEP AWAY!
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Custardy - You are coming across as incredibly confrontation. Are you are RM employee or something?
Even if you are, I'd suggest perhaps taking a step back. You've made 10 posts on the previous page alone!
No,I replied to posts.
now on ignore
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Old 28-09-2012, 4:05 PM
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What a stupid thing to do. I do not want my mail delivered to anyone but me.
Personal "mail" (post) IE letters, bank statements, magazines, bills etc etc WILL NOT BE DELIVERED TO YOUR NEIGHBOUR!!!!

The deliver to a neighbour is for OVERSIZED items that do NOT fit through your letter box, IE boxes and large parcels.

This is to allow you to collect from your neighbour later on when you arrive home, if you ve been out, and the depot is now closed!

No one NEEDS to take in any parcels, you can easily say id rather not take that, and it will be returned as normal!

(Other than the self admitted posties replying on here).

Seriously the people on here have ZERO and i mean ZERO idea or clue what it is like to work in a royal mail depot, they THINK they do, but they dont, trust me it would open your eyes to see whats exactly involved in getting your items and mail to you in a 24 hour time frame!
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Personal "mail" (post) IE letters, bank statements, magazines, bills etc etc WILL NOT BE DELIVERED TO YOUR NEIGHBOUR!!!!

The deliver to a neighbour is for OVERSIZED items that do NOT fit through your letter box, IE boxes and large parcels.

This is to allow you to collect from your neighbour later on when you arrive home, if you ve been out, and the depot is now closed!

No one NEEDS to take in any parcels, you can easily say id rather not take that, and it will be returned as normal!

(Other than the self admitted posties replying on here).

Seriously the people on here have ZERO and i mean ZERO idea or clue what it is like to work in a royal mail depot, they THINK they do, but they dont, trust me it would open your eyes to see whats exactly involved in getting your items and mail to you in a 24 hour time frame!
The irony of your name is not lost on me..

You attack the banks yet have ZERO and I mean ZERO idea or clue what it is like to work in retail banking, you THINK you do, but you dont
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The irony of your name is not lost on me..

You attack the banks yet have ZERO and I mean ZERO idea or clue what it is like to work in retail banking, you THINK you do, but you dont
which posts are you referring to?
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Old 28-09-2012, 4:37 PM
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I welcome this move and will willingly take in things for neighbours as I do for other companies. It really annoys me when I get a red card knowing that my neighbour was in and would have taken it. For those who feel they can't trust their neighbours then opt-out but let the rest of us not have the trouble of going to a depot for our post.
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Old 28-09-2012, 6:38 PM
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There is a lot to be said for purpose built apartments with a concierge sitting in reception.

Perhaps we can elect a couple of houses as "trusted" recipients.
Probably retired people who are in a lot, and pay them something for the trouble. So your opt-in sticker would show a couple of alternative addresses you trust.
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Old 28-09-2012, 11:20 PM
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I can see RM's idea to reduce costs , of having the parcels returned to the sorting office, but I do wonder how many new claims will be made over "missing" items, so this method could cost them even more, but I also guess its a way for RM to sell more Special Deliverys over the standard service.

Also if the delivery isn't finished until the item has arrived at the receivers address, will RM pick up items for orders that are cancelled and would be refused by the receiver and return to sender?

I was also wondering if everything went wrong who would be responsible for the final delivery part, if a card was left saying RM left your item at neighbour x's house, will your neighbour bring it to you when they know your in, if you try to go get it and they are out how many times do you make a walk over to knock your on your neighbours door before you give up, what happens if the parcel ends up just sitting there, as RM is still responsiable for the item do they have to come back, collect from the neighbour and try to deliver to you again?

I like the current method, if your out and get a card, you know that your item will be safe at a delivery office, the opening times are set and whilst it may be more work to get the item I can plan that into my day.

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Old 29-09-2012, 12:51 AM
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Had a postie knock on my door on Tuesday, seeing the parcel van outside I automatically assumed it'd be a parcel for me...
First question he came out with was...
"How well do you know Mrs **** next door?"
I couldn't help but think that was a little personal but anyways, after we established that he wanted me to keep hold of a package for her I did, assuming she would be round to collect the parcel from me that evening.
She didn't collect the parcel that evening which was a little odd as I heard them come home from work.
Anyways, I waited til the next day and they didn't come to collect it so I went over to their house and told them that I had the parcel here for them, and the postie hadn't left them a note?!

I sincerely hope that they are still having to leave a note to tell us that the neighbour has it?!?!
Thought this was awful...
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And a bloody sticker is not an option. Anyone can take that sticker off and you have to wait for another one to be sent.
Mine's on the inside of the door, as my window first appears just above the letterbox.

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Old 29-09-2012, 10:50 AM
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I had thought that the requirement to deliver to the address on the package was actually enshrined in legislation. Does this 'initiative' mean that Royal Mail can deny any liability for any packages safely delivered to a neighbour, but never received by the addressed recipient?

Does it also mean I can now put a sticker on my door telling Royal Mail to deliver my un-addressed junk mail to my neighbour?
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Old 29-09-2012, 11:16 AM
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OFCOM started their consultation on this scheme less than 3 months ago. The consultation ended less than 3 weeks ago. We are now given just 3 days to opt out with a sticker - that takes 4 days to deliver.
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I have registered on-line to op out via sticker. Here are the reasons I gave for opting-out when completing that form...

This service is being imposed without proper consideration by OFCOM. The consultation process started less than 3 months ago and ended less than 3 weeks ago. We are given less than 3 postal delivery days to opt out by way of a sticker; a sticker that takes more than 3 days to deliver.

The fact that this opt out form is for opting out of a 'trial' is just further evidence that this scheme has been introduced without proper consideration.

I suggest that if opting out of neighbour delivery is by a door sticker only, Royal Mail should also respect other door stickers and NOT deliver un-addressed junk mail.
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Old 29-09-2012, 11:44 AM
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If only things are so easily enforced just by sticking a sign up.

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"No Canvassers"

"Do not block the drive"

"No Junk mail"

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I have registered on-line to op out via sticker. Here are the reasons I gave for opting-out when completing that form...

This service is being imposed without proper consideration by OFCOM. The consultation process started less than 3 months ago and ended less than 3 weeks ago. We are given less than 3 postal delivery days to opt out by way of a sticker; a sticker that takes more than 3 days to deliver.

The fact that this opt out form is for opting out of a 'trial' is just further evidence that this scheme has been introduced without proper consideration.

I suggest that if opting out of neighbour delivery is by a door sticker only, Royal Mail should also respect other door stickers and NOT deliver un-addressed junk mail.
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OFCOM started their consultation on this scheme less than 3 months ago. The consultation ended less than 3 weeks ago. We are now given just 3 days to opt out with a sticker - that takes 4 days to deliver.
No,the original proposal was over a year ago

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Old 29-09-2012, 2:06 PM
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I agree with the fact it should be opt in. It will causes issue with retailers like the one I work for..
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