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    jojo30
    JSA Hardship payments
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    • 17th Mar 12, 10:09 AM
    JSA Hardship payments 17th Mar 12 at 10:09 AM
    Last week the lady at the jobcenter took a dislike to me and said the 8 things a fortnight wasnt enough, even though 6 weeks ago she told me to do the 8 things.
    I had a letter this morning saying i wasn't getting my JSA until they make a decision, it says to read the leaflet on how to apply for payments under the JSA Hardship Provision. There is no leaflet
    Could someone point me in the right direction I've looked about online but cant find much about how to apply.
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  • jojo30
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    • 18th Mar 12, 7:19 AM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 7:19 AM
    anyone?
  • Dunroamin
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    • 18th Mar 12, 7:54 AM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 7:54 AM
    Hardship payments and Jobseeker's Allowance

    A hardship payment is a reduced amount of Jobseeker's Allowance which you may be able to get if you have been refused Jobseeker's Allowance, or your benefit has been stopped, because of doubts about whether you are available for and actively seeking work. You can also get them if you are waiting for the Jobcentre Plus office to decide whether you meet the jobs seeking conditions or if you have been sanctioned (see under Jobseeker's Allowance and sanctions).
    If you want more information about hardship payments, and how to apply for them, you should consult an experienced adviser, for example, at a Citizens Advice Bureau. To search for details of your nearest CAB, including those that can give advice by email, click on nearest CAB.

    • RILEYBULL
    • By RILEYBULL 18th Mar 12, 3:51 PM
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    RILEYBULL
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    • 18th Mar 12, 3:51 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 3:51 PM
    My brother in law works in the jobcentre. and your case sounds like what he has to do every week. They MUST stop or try to stop 2 people a week from claiming jsa. Most jsa advisors have targets to hit which are all about stopping peoples money!!!!
    • soundlab
    • By soundlab 18th Mar 12, 4:15 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 4:15 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 4:15 PM
    Does it not tell you on your job seekers agreement the minimum you are meant to do? (Cant find mine to check but im sure it does) If you do or do more than what is agreed in your agreement then surely they cant stop you're money, can they? as it is what the job centre and you agreed on, and if they have changed it then they surely shouldve done another upto date agreement for you to sign with the new minimum you're expected to do

    (and slightly off topic, i know how you feel, my personal adviser has taken a real disliking to me, shes lucky i never slapped her after our last meeting, i dont go there to be talked to like she talked to me, if i wanted to be talked down to like that or like something she has stood in then i would go and talk to my brother haha)
    Last edited by soundlab; 18-03-2012 at 4:17 PM.
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 18th Mar 12, 4:47 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 4:47 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 4:47 PM
    My brother in law works in the jobcentre. and your case sounds like what he has to do every week. They MUST stop or try to stop 2 people a week from claiming jsa. Most jsa advisors have targets to hit which are all about stopping peoples money!!!!
    Originally posted by RILEYBULL
    I've never heard such a load of rubbish in all my life and if that's what your brother is telling you then he should be going to the papers about it. And his MP, but i just dont believe it for a minute.

    Sheer bunkum...............

    They dont get paid to look out for people to stop their money.

    Its their job to get people to do what they are supposedto do to help them find a job. It's only then if the clients dont follow the rules that they get their money stopped.
    Money doesnt get stopped for nothing.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
    • RILEYBULL
    • By RILEYBULL 18th Mar 12, 5:03 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 5:03 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 5:03 PM
    I've never heard such a load of rubbish in all my life and if that's what your brother is telling you then he should be going to the papers about it. And his MP, but i just dont believe it for a minute.

    Sheer bunkum...............

    They dont get paid to look out for people to stop their money.

    Its their job to get people to do what they are supposedto do to help them find a job. It's only then if the clients dont follow the rules that they get their money stopped.
    Money doesnt get stopped for nothing.
    Originally posted by McKneff
    You have no IDEA!!!! they are told to look at ANYWAY possible to stop there jsa claim...
  • tinktinktinkerbell
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    • 18th Mar 12, 5:18 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 5:18 PM
    I've never heard such a load of rubbish in all my life and if that's what your brother is telling you then he should be going to the papers about it. And his MP, but i just dont believe it for a minute.

    Sheer bunkum...............

    They dont get paid to look out for people to stop their money.

    Its their job to get people to do what they are supposedto do to help them find a job. It's only then if the clients dont follow the rules that they get their money stopped.
    Money doesnt get stopped for nothing.
    Originally posted by McKneff
    actually ive heard the same too and they do try to trick people

    last time me and my OH were on JSA when it was coming up to christmas, they told him he didnt have to sign on until after the new year, i thought this was a bit fishy so i double checked and a good job i did because he did have to sign on, that would have been our money stopped had i not been there to check or had he been claiming himself!
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 18th Mar 12, 5:22 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 5:22 PM
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    • 18th Mar 12, 5:22 PM
    Praps your OH misheard or someone made a simple mistake.

    Believe me for reasons I dont want to go into what Rileybull says is half of his user name - bull.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
  • tinktinktinkerbell
    Praps your OH misheard or someone made a simple mistake.

    Believe me for reasons I dont want to go into what Rileybull says is half of his user name - bull.
    Originally posted by McKneff
    no my OH did not mis hear and the guy did it on purpose
    • nannytone
    • By nannytone 18th Mar 12, 5:33 PM
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    nannytone
    both of my kids work as advisors for JC+. Ive spokent to both of them today, and neither of them are given tarhets as to the number of prople they should get off JSA.
    their job is to assiste people in finding work, and not to try to 'trick' people into losing benefit that they are entitled to.

    I'd suggest that your brother in law has more than a bit of 'billy liar' in his personality.
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 18th Mar 12, 6:37 PM
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    McKneff
    no my OH did not mis hear and the guy did it on purpose
    Originally posted by tinktinktinkerbell
    Give over, of course he could have misheard, and dont be silly the guy would never have done it on purpose. He maybe said so but we can all make mistakes.

    I thought you had more sense than to believe that.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
    • Orville
    • By Orville 18th Mar 12, 7:22 PM
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    To get back on topic.

    What is the minimum amount of applications you are meant to show on your booklet op. When you signed on there should have been an agreement.

    If it is 4 per week i think you would have good grounds to appeal, and also if i were you i would put in a written complaint about the advisor who stopped your money.
  • tinktinktinkerbell
    Give over, of course he could have misheard, and dont be silly the guy would never have done it on purpose. He maybe said so but we can all make mistakes.

    I thought you had more sense than to believe that.
    Originally posted by McKneff
    sweetheart i was there when my OHs advisor said it, i heard him say it, my OH did NOT mishear!
  • nocareer
    You have to ask at the jobcentre for claim form JSA10 Hardship Provision. Fill this in and return it as soon as possible to the jobcentre and claim from the day that they say you can no longer get JSA from. It take 10 days for them to process the claim. It pays about £39 a week. But, you won't get it if your savings come to more than this.

    Again, the Jobcentre staff are proving to be inhumane scum, they don't issue you with leaflet ESL48 which they are supposed to do when they give you a letter saying a doubt has risen about your claim for JSA. They also don't offer you a claim form for Hardship Allowance, you have to ask for one. These people have no conscience at all.

    I've heard of people losing there homes because they did not know they could claim hardship payments.
  • nocareer
    sweetheart i was there when my OHs advisor said it, i heard him say it, my OH did NOT mishear!
    Originally posted by tinktinktinkerbell
    I have also heard rumours about this. They have to sanction so many claimants within a given time frame, to keep the big knobs in goverment happy and reduce the deficit by saving on social security handouts.
    • HappyMJ
    • By HappyMJ 18th Mar 12, 7:56 PM
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    HappyMJ
    To get back on topic.

    What is the minimum amount of applications you are meant to show on your booklet op. When you signed on there should have been an agreement.

    If it is 4 per week i think you would have good grounds to appeal, and also if i were you i would put in a written complaint about the advisor who stopped your money.
    Originally posted by Orville
    The minimum number of things you are supposed to do is in the the Jobcentre agreeement you have with them. I think mine was 2 a week. I did loads more and they said I was doing more than enough so it never changed. A few things did change over time such as seeking work which I was not qualified for and work which I was over qualified for which I refused but we agreed to disagree on that one. I never did look for that work and they never did question it again. The only thing that ever did change was the travel to work requirement was extended from 60 minutes to 90 minutes which I accepted as long as it did not leave me worse off due to higher public transport costs and they agreed.

    Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
    • HappyMJ
    • By HappyMJ 18th Mar 12, 7:57 PM
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    HappyMJ
    You have to ask at the jobcentre for claim form JSA10 Hardship Provision. Fill this in and return it as soon as possible to the jobcentre and claim from the day that they say you can no longer get JSA from. It take 10 days for them to process the claim. It pays about £39 a week. But, you won't get it if your savings come to more than this.

    Again, the Jobcentre staff are proving to be inhumane scum, they don't issue you with leaflet ESL48 which they are supposed to do when they give you a letter saying a doubt has risen about your claim for JSA. They also don't offer you a claim form for Hardship Allowance, you have to ask for one. These people have no conscience at all.

    I've heard of people losing there homes because they did not know they could claim hardship payments.
    Originally posted by nocareer
    How do someone lose their home due to a sanction? Sanctions do not affect housing benefit at all. Everyone continues to get the full rate of Housing Benefit.

    Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
  • nocareer
    How do someone lose their home due to a sanction? Sanctions do not affect housing benefit at all. Everyone continues to get the full rate of Housing Benefit.
    Originally posted by HappyMJ
    Because when people get a letter telling them they can no longer get JSA, they think it's all over. So, they no longer sign on and their claim is closed, so lose their housing benefit and are evicted from their homes.
    Last edited by nocareer; 18-03-2012 at 8:05 PM.
    • notakid
    • By notakid 18th Mar 12, 8:01 PM
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    notakid
    Thanks, for that info. That is re-assuring. It must have been a false rumour.
    Originally posted by nocareer
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