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Old 22-02-2012, 1:04 AM
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Default G24 Contractual parking charge notice

I have too recieved a parking fine from G24 Ltd this is dated a week earlier where I was parked on a retail park which I did not know was classed as 'two hours free parking' (even though I have visited this retail park on numerous occasions). This letter shows pictures of my car entering and leaving the car park with closer pics of the reg number stating I overstayed by 26mins therefore am subjected to a fine. I may have possibly overstayed in this car park but am not sure. The sum of the fine is 50.00 if paid within 14 days or 70.00 if paid later.
I have been reading posts on here and going by these I assume I should ignore these letters???!! I do feel a little worried though, but at the same time am fuming that these companies can get away with doing this! I very nearly just sent a cheque and paid the so called fine until a colleague at work advised me to do some research first.
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Old 22-02-2012, 7:23 AM
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You are correct, just ignore. Finally it's not FINE, it's an unenforceable invoice.
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Old 22-02-2012, 10:13 AM
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Good, the message is spreading! How do they get away with it? They rely on the fact that successive British Governments have rendered the British Motorist a cipher who has become used to constantly paying out large fines for minor transgressions.... so they figure they may as well get in on the act, since the resigned, knee-jerk reaction of many drivers when sent a large bill in the post is just to reach for the cheque book.

However, these people are "one parasite too far". Unlike Councils, Safety partnerships (= speed cameras) and DVLA, what they send is speculative, unenforceable rubbish.

Do not give them a penny, ignore each and every pathetic threat they send you, there is only ONE certain action they will take if you do that, which will be to crawl back under their stone when they realise they are NOT dealing with a mug.

You have my personal assurance on that, as I have put the finger up at over 80 of these fake tickets.
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Old 23-02-2012, 2:51 PM
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Default G24 Contractual parking charge notice

Looks like I have also fallen foul to this scam!

I received a letter yersterday from G24 for a contractual parking charge notice stating I had over-parked in a permitted free parking area from 45 minutes to 60 minutes. It is supplied with two photos of which the first shows clearly identifiable as my car and the later is pitch black with tailgate brake lights showing and hardly recognisable registration.

I must admit I was fuming when I received this and had a good mind to drive to the store there and then and speak to the Manager but it was after 8 pm.

I was actually googling for a G24 Ltd contact number to ring and complain when I can across this forum so thanks to all for informing me of this scam.

Just to be clear, the recommendation is to do nothing and ignore the letters - don't even bother writing back to dispute this charge to the address provided...is this correct?
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Absolutely right. You will get a succession of letters which, if you ignore them, will then cease and you will hear no more from them. Don't waste your time with their phoney appeal system, or they will put you down as a mug for believing the ticket ever had any validity and you will receive extra letters.

Yes by all means be Mr. Angry with the store manager and say that because of his car park cowboys you will shop elsewhere, if there are enough complaints maybe they will get the order of the boot.
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Looks like I have also fallen foul to this scam!

I received a letter yersterday from G24 for a contractual parking charge notice stating I had over-parked in a permitted free parking area from 45 minutes to 60 minutes. It is supplied with two photos of which the first shows clearly identifiable as my car and the later is pitch black with tailgate brake lights showing and hardly recognisable registration.

I must admit I was fuming when I received this and had a good mind to drive to the store there and then and speak to the Manager but it was after 8 pm.

I was actually googling for a G24 Ltd contact number to ring and complain when I can across this forum so thanks to all for informing me of this scam.

Just to be clear, the recommendation is to do nothing and ignore the letters - don't even bother writing back to dispute this charge to the address provided...is this correct?


Yep, absolutely. Nothing will happen other than 'threatograms'.

Read the top sticky thread, look at the letters that G24 will send out (and their debt collectors). The letters are in pictures in that top thread 'PPC letters & threats' which is 2 clicks away (see my signature, I cannot link it but it's just 'a couple of hops' back in the forum).

Reading that thread will give you a preview of each letter so you can just play PPC snap with them all.

And watch the Watchdog clip on that top thread as well.
Ticket in a private car park in England/Wales?... DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT- the advice changed in 2012/13!

CLICK on '>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking>' end of the small blue 'Home>Forums>' link, top of the page, to see current threads.
Do NOT read older advice to ignore, unless it was in Scotland or NI.
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Old 23-02-2012, 11:20 PM
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I would advise anyone who receives one of these impersonation of authority fake tickets to do two things.
1.Ignore the parking company and all its silly fake letters.
2. take what you bought back and demand a refund, then tell them why, because they have car park scammers and yes it is their fault.
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Old 01-03-2012, 8:55 PM
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Thanks for this...much appreciated. I'll keep you informed when the next letter turns up.
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*** Cough **** - note my username !!!!

Ignored two so far and NOTHING happened. That's because G24 are a bunch of scammers, liars ( i.e. they lied to Nominet before the mods get all heated ! ) and cowards !!!!!
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:36 PM
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Angry g24 arghhh

I have received one of these charges, and looked on some websites to look how to best respond. Should have ignored it, but chose to write to them, but haven't accepted any liability and indeed refute their claim. They have written back to me to demand evidence of who was driving - i shall ignore any further correspondence from them. Makes me so mad!
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Yes ignore them and read the top sticky thread here for pics of the letter-chain to expect, and to se a useful Watchdog clip.

See my signature for how to get to the forum index (sticky thread at the top) which is just a click away. On here you are posting on a single random thread about someone else's case, when in fact there's a whole forum and sticky info for you to read.
Ticket in a private car park in England/Wales?... DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT- the advice changed in 2012/13!

CLICK on '>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking>' end of the small blue 'Home>Forums>' link, top of the page, to see current threads.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:44 PM
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Let them "demand" away. You have no obligation to tell them or even to respond at all, so simply give them the cold shoulder, they are utterly useless and will give up and go when they realise you mean what you said when you refuted their claim.
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I have received one of these charges, and looked on some websites to look how to best respond. Should have ignored it, but chose to write to them, but haven't accepted any liability and indeed refute their claim. They have written back to me to demand evidence of who was driving - i shall ignore any further correspondence from them. Makes me so mad!
Ignore them - the go away quite quickly. If you really want to converse with them then ask how their discussion with HMRC went about not paying VAT
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Old 04-03-2012, 8:59 AM
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Default G24 Parking Ticket

Recently I took my 92 year old mother shopping to Aldi. We used my mother's disabled parking permit for the first time as my mother doesn't drive. On leaviing the shop we noticed a parking ticket on the car from G24. On seeing this my mother was obviously very distressed (as was I!!). We've now been (fined 50 - lol!!!). My mum now wants to pay the fine and I have lost 2 nights sleep thinking about this. I have since noticed that my mother's disabled parking permit had expired (this has subsequently been renewed). Can anybody advise?
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Recently I took my 92 year old mother shopping to Aldi. We used my mother's disabled parking permit for the first time as my mother doesn't drive. On leaviing the shop we noticed a parking ticket on the car from G24. On seeing this my mother was obviously very distressed (as was I!!). We've now been (fined 50 - lol!!!). My mum now wants to pay the fine and I have lost 2 nights sleep thinking about this. I have since noticed that my mother's disabled parking permit had expired (this has subsequently been renewed). Can anybody advise?
If you had taken the time to read the posts above, you would have realised that this is not a "fine", and that you don't owe them a penny. As for blue badges they don't apply to private car-parks. So stop worrying. Don't forget that this bunch of clowns are not the police or the council. they are just a tin-pot private company with no more right than you or me to demand money off people.

I wonder if the people who run G24 have any conscience at all when their stupid actions so worry people that they lose sleep over it. I think the word "despicable" comes to mind.
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Old 04-03-2012, 9:26 AM
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YES. Start sleeping again, and tell your dear old mum that your friends at MSE have sorted it for you.

This ticket has NO VALIDITY, it wouldn't have mattered if no blue badge had been displayed at all as the scheme is not valid on private ground. However according to the Equalities Act and Disabled Discrimination Act anyone who has a disablement, can use the spaces and any attempt to stop them is illegal and you can sue for damages.

You can either TOTALLY IGNORE all the toilet paper you get from this miserable excuse for a company and wait for them to crawl back under their stone; or you can take the offensive and tell the management at Aldi (do not waste your time talking to the parking company) that in accordance with the above Acts they are breaking the Law in regard to the actions of their agents and they must either ensure that the invoice (it's NOT a fine) is withdrawn or they will be open to be sued for damages.

DO NOT:

1. Pay
2. Worry.
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Recently I took my 92 year old mother shopping to Aldi. We used my mother's disabled parking permit for the first time as my mother doesn't drive. On leaviing the shop we noticed a parking ticket on the car from G24. On seeing this my mother was obviously very distressed (as was I!!). We've now been (fined 50 - lol!!!). My mum now wants to pay the fine and I have lost 2 nights sleep thinking about this. I have since noticed that my mother's disabled parking permit had expired (this has subsequently been renewed). Can anybody advise?


Don't even think about letting your Mum pay this scam charge!

Read the top thread here for pictures of the letters to expect and ignore (who is the registered keeper, they will get these letters and they are horrible for a vulnerable person to cope with!)?

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=163

Also on that clip you will see a solicitor on Watchdog explain what to do.

BUT you Mum is of a generation to just pay any debt. This isn't a debt - it's a scam - but if she's the keeper she won't cope with ignoring those letters shown in the top thread will she? Or is it your car, can you ignore these or would you rather complain?

So I suggest, do what a friend of mine did when a 90-year old neighbour got one of the fake PCNs in Dunelm Mill. Watch the Watchdog clip first and look at the letter pics to understand what this is all about, the legal side (which is that there is no law that allows them to fine anyone, this is just an invoive though so whilst it's not illegal it is certainly ignorable!). Anyway, my friend marched into Dunelm Mill with the offending piece of trash, the current Blue Badge and the receipt from the shopping and complained to the Manager until the offending fake PCN was cancelled and an apology given.

Do not 'appeal' to the parking company. This is a disability law breach if they do not cancel it when you prove she was genuinely disabled all along. Blue Badges actually don't even count in private car parks - legally what counts is that she is disabled and can legally use the adjustment of a disabled bay UNHARASSED.

Bottom line, you/she could sue the retailer and the private parking co (PPC) but if you are not up for that then go for the serious complaint to the retailer (not appeal, complaint about this harassment and disability law breach). If the threatograms keep arriving and they do not cancel this rubbish, please come back here if you have the stomach to sue both parties for damages for this harassment.
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CLICK on '>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking>' end of the small blue 'Home>Forums>' link, top of the page, to see current threads.
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I have too recieved a parking fine from G24 Ltd this is dated a week earlier where I was parked on a retail park which I did not know was classed as 'two hours free parking' (even though I have visited this retail park on numerous occasions). This letter shows pictures of my car entering and leaving the car park with closer pics of the reg number stating I overstayed by 26mins therefore am subjected to a fine. I may have possibly overstayed in this car park but am not sure. The sum of the fine is 50.00 if paid within 14 days or 70.00 if paid later.
I have been reading posts on here and going by these I assume I should ignore these letters???!! I do feel a little worried though, but at the same time am fuming that these companies can get away with doing this! I very nearly just sent a cheque and paid the so called fine until a colleague at work advised me to do some research first.
Are you sure that we can ignore these notices? I rceived one on Feb 26th for 70 for parking in a shopping centre car park at 5;15pm and leaving 162 minutes later which exceeded the free parking for 120 minutes?
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Are you sure that we can ignore these notices? I rceived one on Feb 26th for 70 for parking in a shopping centre car park at 5;15pm and leaving 162 minutes later which exceeded the free parking for 120 minutes?
Yes, just ignore them. It was a free car park so their loss is zero.
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Are you sure that we can ignore these notices? I rceived one on Feb 26th for 70 for parking in a shopping centre car park at 5;15pm and leaving 162 minutes later which exceeded the free parking for 120 minutes?
Of course you can ignore them . They are not the police or the council. They are just a private company with no more right than you or me to demand money off people for breaking their made-up "rules".

By law they can only claim for the actual material loss suffered by the landowner. As this was a free car-park, that comes to a big fat zero,
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