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    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
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    worried jim
    Your Bangernomics successes
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    • 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
    Your Bangernomics successes 19th Feb 12 at 1:34 PM
    Hello my fellow cheapskates. After spending nearly three years running a car for as cheap as possible, mainly as I ran it throughout all but he darkest depths of winter on WVO/UVO (waste or used vegetable oil), in a Vauxhall Astra I have had to say good bye to the old girl as it is no longer economical to repair to get it through it’s MOT (which has now expired yesterday).

    Running my Vauxhall Astra on veg oil-
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1961265&highlight=worried+jim

    Being of limited budget but a growing fan of “Bangernomics” (old banger cars + economics) I have decided to catalogue my experiences of running a sub £1000 car and I would like you to share your experiences if you are doing the same, weather through tight-fisted choice, i.e.-
    -Why buy a new car when you can run one successfully for the equivalent of two new car finance payments.
    -Or like me because you have no choice.

    Now to begin with we need to agree on price constraints. I have gone in with a £1000 price limit even though I paid half this, if you disagree lets discuss reasons, I am all ears.

    Here is my set up-
    A Rover 600 2.0sli.
    12 months MOT
    No tax
    £495.

    4 Doors, Manual, Saloon, Petrol, Metallic Blue, MOT-02-2013. Honda engine, ABS, Alloy wheels, Folding rear seats, Lumbar support, Immobiliser, Passenger airbag, Rear armrest, Radio/Cassette, Rear headrests, Alloy wheels, 3x3 point rear seat belts, Alarm, Drivers airbag, Electric windows, Height adjustable drivers seat, Remote central locking,
    The mileage was approx 118,000, Cambelt changed @79,000, loads of history (not fsh though) all the old MOT certificates.

    The bad bits about the car are-

    Electric aerial doesn’t retract (can’t use a carwash)
    Drivers seat lumber is worn
    Paint is faded on roof and boot lid.
    Radio is missing a button and unable to pick up many stations
    Small cigarette burn in rear passenger seat
    Driver’s seat belt doesn’t retract
    Not sure if Air con is fully working (suspect needs a re gas)
    Wind noise at speed from top right of driver door
    Both wing mirrors are tatty (held together with tape and a nylon tie)

    The good bits-

    Drives very well
    All tyres have lots of tread
    All electrics work
    12 months MOT
    Goes like stink
    Better than the last car I had.


    So in a nutshell I have bought a car with a brand new MOT for the price of getting my existing Astra through it’s MOT just to face a similar if not larger bill for the same next year.
    Now there is nothing to suggest that in a years time I face the prospect of a large MOT repair bill and may have to start again with another car, hopefully not, and this is to document how far you can go with a banger.

    I have found an original Topgear review by Jeremy himself from 1993-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Lq92QTrBw

    I have had a good look around ebay and it is full of Rover parts should I need any- I currently have the wining bid on a Haynes manual so I can really get to know the car should I need to.

    I will be the first to admit that this is a gamble, no nice new car with no faults or warranty should any arise, hell, I’ve bought a car from a now defunct manufacture, how will this effect me? Now in my mind when I was a teenager in the early 90’s a banger was a Hillman Imp, Vauxhall Chevette or as in my case and my first car a Talbot Sunbeam. These were cars that if you wanted a radio (or a rear heated element on the rear screen) you had to fit one your self. Cold morning- fingers crossed, MOT time meant welding new sills. Now a banger today comes with power steering, ABS, electric windows, fuel injection and in some cases air con, so why spend £k’s?

    Top Gear guide to Buying a Banger with Quentin Wilson- From 1997
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUVmNCdf4tI&feature=related
    (You won’t be buying anything featured in this clip but it gives you the idea and you can see the difference between “old” and “modern” bangers.
    So by now you should be getting the jist of how to join in. Share you car and model any feature it may have and keep updating!

    The £495 beast-


    Tatty rear bumper-


    Poor paint condition on roof (with free seagull crap)


    Poor paint condition on boot lid-


    Tatty wing mirror-


    Missing radio button-
    Last edited by worried jim; 19-02-2012 at 2:32 PM.
    "Only two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe"
    Albert Einstein
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    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 5th Oct 17, 11:27 AM
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    Stoke
    What with the rear visibility not being too fabulous on this Mazda, I went ahead and fitted some trusty reversing sensors. £20 delivered from eBay. CISBO which I'm pretty sure are just a brand name for Chinese Aliexpress jobbies but I've used them before and I find they're excellent bang for their buck. I've never bought matte black ones though. I usually buy the closest colour, give them a very light rub with fine sand paper and spray a very fine layer of the correct colour + lacquer (if metallic) but having a textured matte black plastic bumper, it made sense just to go matte.

    Quick photo of how I colour matched them on the Audi:


    Anyway, compared to the Audi A4, and other cars I've messed around with, this car is offensively easy to work on. You know your car is too easy to work on, when the hardest part of a job is finding the best way to feed a wire through a grommet, which genuinely was the only issue I had, as the grommet was a little on the small side... brute force and idiocy being the answer.





    Job done.

    Also, before anyone says:
    a. I am aware that there are 'prettier' sensors you can buy. I do really like these new flush mount ones where you drill a hole and you mount them from the rear of the bumper, but the car is already ugly. I can't see the point.

    b. There is a reason the gap between sensor B (inside left) and C (inside right) is more than between A-B, C-D. The bumper is very slightly rounded at the ends, but becomes flat in the middle. Doing it this way means I D and A will have some visibility of corners when reverse turning. B and C's ultrasonic range are only overlapping by a minimal amount which means the maximum amount of coverage is achieved. The instructions explain how to calculate this.

    However, the heights and measurements between them are pretty much spot on and they work a treat.
    • jimjames
    • By jimjames 5th Oct 17, 12:08 PM
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    jimjames



    Great buy was the cambelt done on the car have you had to do many repairs.
    Originally posted by mr_harris
    I was told verbally that it was done but as there wasn't any paperwork I got it done myself. I've had a few bits to do but nothing major, all things that you'd expect on a 16 year old car and once done will not need doing for a long while - new front shocks (£80), new brakes all round (£100). I think the car is worth about £1200 if I come to sell so any money spent isn't wasted.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 5th Oct 17, 12:13 PM
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    Stoke
    MK4 Golf's are always worth spending money on. They're cracking motors and they're super comfortable to drive. I very nearly bought a white TDI before the Audi. I left thinking "I want that car", decided I would buy it a few days later only to find out it had been sold.

    I would have undoubtedly had better luck with the Golf than the A4.
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 24th Nov 17, 10:36 AM
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    GunJack
    Coming up on 3 months with the Fusion

    Ave mpg so far is... 63.5mpg

    it's proving to be a good big/little motor
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 24th Nov 17, 2:04 PM
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    LeeUK
    coil spring gone maybe? get it checked before it ends up through the tyre....Could be something else, of course...
    Originally posted by GunJack
    Could be the spring? Could also be something like the drop link or suspension bushes. With it clanging it should be fairly easy to track down.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    "Came on suddenly"... almost certainly spring I would agree.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    Just thought I'd update this and yes it turned out to be the coil spring. £80 at local indie garage to replace.
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 24th Nov 17, 6:11 PM
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    GunJack
    Just thought I'd update this and yes it turned out to be the coil spring. £80 at local indie garage to replace.
    Originally posted by LeeUK
    Yay!! At least springs are relatively cheap these days
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......
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