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Real or spoof? PIN NUMBER REVERSAL
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Old 01-12-2006, 9:31 AM
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Default Real or spoof? PIN NUMBER REVERSAL

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I'm afraid the idea that "typing in a pin number in reverse alerts the police" is an urban myth. It was first suggested in the USA and while the technology is available it hasn't been used. In the UK it simply doesn't exist.

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Is this true or a spoof doing the rounds?

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> > > PIN NUMBER REVERSAL (GOOD TO KNOW)
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> > >
> > > If you should ever be forced by a robber to withdraw money from an ATM
> > > machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse.
> > >
> > >
> > > For example if your pin number is 1234 then you would put in 4321. The
> > > ATM recognizes
> > >
> > > that your pin number is backwards from the ATM card you placed in the
> > > machine.
> > >
> > >
> > > The machine will still give you the money you requested, but unknown
> > > to
> > > the robber,
> > >
> > > the police will be immediately dispatched to help you.
> > >
> > >
> > > This information was recently broadcasted on TV and it states that it
> > > is
> > > seldom used because people don't know it exists.
Looks like it never became law in US..... http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp

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Old 01-12-2006, 10:13 AM
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Snopes is usually the source I go to to check on Urban legends - seems it's a spoof.

They mentioned palindromic numbers in the article, but I wonder how they'd counteract the halfing of the number space such a scheme would perform? Instead of one number out of 10,000 being able to withdraw money, you'd now have 2, or one in 5,000.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:33 AM
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And what about the self-chosen PIN's...2112, etc?
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> > > the police will be immediately dispatched to help you.
Yeah right, 2 hours later or maybe the next day.
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Old 01-12-2006, 1:05 PM
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Only one way to know for sure then... who's going to volunteer to test it out (who has 2hrs to spend next to a cash machine?)
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IIRC, I have accidently entered my PIN backwards on a few occasions, but I haven't hung about near the cash point for two hours, so cannot confirm that the police don't show up...
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And what about the self-chosen PIN's...2112, etc?
I wouldn't be in a Rush to use that one.
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Old 01-12-2006, 4:30 PM
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Suspecting it's a myth, but why wait for the police... if it spits out your money, then it's true?

Or have I missed something?
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IIRC, I have accidently entered my PIN backwards on a few occasions
So did the money pop out, that's what we want to know ??
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So did the money pop out, that's what we want to know ??
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No, the Cash Point just tells you that you've entered the wrong PIN.
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I wouldn't be in a Rush to use that one.

Groan, reckoned I was in the Twilight zone when I saw that one.
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Groan, reckoned I was in the Twilight zone when I saw that one.
Perhaps we should hold [your] fire on any more rush jokes.
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Old 05-12-2006, 1:11 PM
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lol maybe you could just enter your pin as 999 !
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lol maybe you could just enter your pin as 999 !
What, are cash machines telephones as well ??

Didn't know that, I'll make a few calls next time.

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If cash machines could do this why dont they call a service engineer when there broken or out of money or call the police when they are being vandalised?
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Yeah right, 2 hours later or maybe the next day.
Unless there is a PIN that is universally assigned to say the robbers have an out of date tax disc, or were doing 31 in a 30 before they came to rob you, in which case they would already be on their way before you could put in the last digit :rolleyes:
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If cash machines could do this why dont they call a service engineer when there broken or out of money or call the police when they are being vandalised?
Call an engineer, they do report when they are in error

Out of money again is reported

And staff are called out to fix/fill them, especially during the holiday season
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Is this true or a spoof doing the rounds?



Looks like it never became law in US..... http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp
Obvious spoof. The phrase "police will be immediately despatched" makes that most obvious!
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Call an engineer, they do report when they are in error

Out of money again is reported

And staff are called out to fix/fill them, especially during the holiday season
Would someone like to point that out to my local TSB next time it breaks down on a weekend? It's the only free cash machine for 12 miles.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:41 PM
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The bank I work for have, over the last week, recieved quite a few calls about this as a result of a "posting on an internet website"

They have confirmed that it is a hoex.
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