IMPORTANT! This is MoneySavingExpert's open forum - anyone can post

Please exercise caution & report any spam, illegal, offensive, racist, libellous post to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com

  • Be nice to all MoneySavers
  • All the best tips go in the MoneySavingExpert weekly email

    Plus all the new guides, deals & loopholes

  • No spam/referral links
or Login with Facebook
ESA Medical...points?
Closed Thread
Views: 8,339
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
# 1
OneHubbyOneSon4Debts
Old 06-04-2011, 6:48 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 109
Default ESA Medical...points?

I was just wondering do they use the points system when you attend a medical for ESA?

My husband is on IB and with all the changes thats happening he will no doubt have to go for a medical with the change over to ESA, was just wondering if its the same point system they used for IB, think you needed 15 to pass, or do they use another method to assess you now?

Thanks.
OneHubbyOneSon4Debts is offline
Report Post
# 2
Jowo
Old 06-04-2011, 7:33 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,001
Default

Here is an introduction to ESA on the Direct gov website. ESA is quite different to how IB is assessed.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Disabled.../esa/index.htm
Jowo is offline
Report Post
The Following User Says Thank You to Jowo For This Useful Post: Show me >>
# 3
OneHubbyOneSon4Debts
Old 06-04-2011, 7:42 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 109
Default

Thanks for the link Jowo.

I've been reading up about ESA but still can't seem to find if they actually use points for certain questions or if they use another method now.
OneHubbyOneSon4Debts is offline
Report Post
# 4
Jowo
Old 06-04-2011, 7:50 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,001
Default

Yes, points are awarded. Here is a link to the descriptors.

There are 3 possible ways to pass this test:
- Some people are treated as having limited capability for work because they have a specified condition or are undergoing specified forms of treatment. If none of those apply:
- They have to score 15 points under the points based assessment. Or
- If certain exceptional circumstances apply a person can still be treated as having limited capability even if they do not score 15 points.


http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf...escriptorshome
Jowo is offline
Report Post
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jowo For This Useful Post: Show me >>
# 5
OneHubbyOneSon4Debts
Old 06-04-2011, 8:04 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 109
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowo View Post
Yes, points are awarded. Here is a link to the descriptors.

There are 3 possible ways to pass this test:
- Some people are treated as having limited capability for work because they have a specified condition or are undergoing specified forms of treatment. If none of those apply:
- They have to score 15 points under the points based assessment. Or
- If certain exceptional circumstances apply a person can still be treated as having limited capability even if they do not score 15 points.


http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf...escriptorshome

This was exactly the type of info I was searching for.

Many many thanks Jowo, your a star!
OneHubbyOneSon4Debts is offline
Report Post
# 6
alexandrajj
Old 06-04-2011, 8:42 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 87
Default

So you have to score at least 15 points to get ESA bu how many do you need to get put into the support group of ESA please?

TIA
alexandrajj is offline
Report Post
# 7
stazi
Old 06-04-2011, 8:48 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,279
Default

15 points
More infor here-
http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf...ptorslcwranew1
stazi is offline
Report Post
# 8
alexandrajj
Old 06-04-2011, 8:59 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 87
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stazi View Post
Thank you Stazi. So if it's 15 points for the support group, how many points to get put inthe work related group? How many points to be put-on JSA?

TIA
alexandrajj is offline
Report Post
# 9
bertiebat
Old 06-04-2011, 9:19 PM
MoneySaving Stalwart
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: london
Posts: 279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alexandrajj View Post
Thank you Stazi. So if it's 15 points for the support group, how many points to get put inthe work related group? How many points to be put-on JSA?

TIA
Stazi's post is misleading on this. It's 15 points to get ESA at all, but the criteria for the support group is not points based.

To get into the support group you need to meet the criteria for the Limited capability for work related activity test (included in his link).

JSA has nothing to do with ESA, but is another available out of work benefit and requires a separate application (and a requirement to look for work).

Last edited by bertiebat; 06-04-2011 at 9:29 PM.
bertiebat is offline
Report Post
The Following User Says Thank You to bertiebat For This Useful Post: Show me >>
# 10
richard9991
Old 06-04-2011, 9:22 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: skelmersdale
Posts: 1,508
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alexandrajj View Post
Thank you Stazi. So if it's 15 points for the support group, how many points to get put inthe work related group? How many points to be put-on JSA?

TIA
you need 15 points for either
wrag or support group other critira has to be satisied to detirmin which group the dm will put you into
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Disabled.../esa/DG_172032
richard9991 is offline
Report Post
The Following User Says Thank You to richard9991 For This Useful Post: Show me >>
# 11
alexandrajj
Old 06-04-2011, 9:42 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 87
Default

I just want to make sure I have understood this correctly. You need 15 points to get ESA (either group).( Does anyone have a link to the full list of descriptors please?) however, to be put in the support group you need to score at least 15 points on specific questions (the limited capability to work questions)

Have I got this right?

TIA
alexandrajj is offline
Report Post
# 12
stazi
Old 06-04-2011, 10:05 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,279
Default

See DMG memo 06/11 attached-
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/m-06-11.pdf
stazi is offline
Report Post
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to stazi For This Useful Post: Show me >>
# 13
alexandrajj
Old 06-04-2011, 10:29 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 87
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stazi View Post
See DMG memo 06/11 attached-
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/m-06-11.pdf
Thank you Stazi. What does the acronym LCWRA stand for please?
alexandrajj is offline
Report Post
# 14
Cpt.Scarlet
Old 06-04-2011, 11:47 PM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,075
Default

You don't need 15 points to be put into the Support Group, that is just for the WRAG. For the SG you need to meet one or more or the criteria.

LCWRA - is Limited Capability for Work Related Activity.
Cpt.Scarlet is online now
Report Post
The Following User Says Thank You to Cpt.Scarlet For This Useful Post: Show me >>
Closed Thread

Bookmarks
 
 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 Forum Jump  

Contact Us - MoneySavingExpert.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 2:01 AM.

 Forum Jump  

Free MoneySaving Email

Top deals: Week of 23 April 2014

Get all this & more in MoneySavingExpert's weekly email full of guides, vouchers and Deals

GET THIS FREE WEEKLY EMAIL Full of deals, guides & it's spam free

Latest News & Blogs

Martin's Twitter Feed

profile

Cheap Travel Money

Find the best online rate for holiday cash with MSE's TravelMoneyMax.

Find the best online rate for your holiday cash with MoneySavingExpert's TravelMoneyMax.

TuneChecker Top Albums

  • VARIOUS ARTISTSNOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC! 87
  • VARIOUS ARTISTSFROZEN (ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK)
  • VARIOUS ARTISTSEUPHORIC CLUBLAND 2

MSE's Twitter Feed

profile
Always remember anyone can post on the MSE forums, so it can be very different from our opinion.
We use Skimlinks and other affiliated links in some of our boards, for some of our users.