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    Terence123
    Holidays & job seekers allowance
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 12:39 AM
    Holidays & job seekers allowance 2nd Feb 11 at 12:39 AM
    I wonder if anyone can give me any advice I am on JSA & have been for some years we have had a rough year two close family bereavements & my wife diagnosed with a severe lung problem. My daughters have clubbed together for a weeks holiday in Cornwall for us but it is on the week I sign.
    I am at my wits end trying to find out what to do it is paid for (a surprise) so we can't change it but we can not afford to loose benefits.
    Could anyone offer any advice my daughter says to phone & say I'm sick but I am very worried about that any advice?
    This lovely gift is now turning into a real stressful event.
    Thank you
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  • wantsajob
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 12:47 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 12:47 AM
    I believe the official word is you should tell them if you go on holiday. Phoning to say you are sick is a bit dodgy, I would check to make sure they do not expect a doctor's note.
    • HappyMJ
    • By HappyMJ 2nd Feb 11, 12:56 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 12:56 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 12:56 AM
    This question comes up regularly.... Tell them when you next sign on where and when you are going and request to sign on by post instead. Or sign on when you return. Don't tell them you are sick that'll cause more hassle.
    • paddedjohn
    • By paddedjohn 2nd Feb 11, 1:13 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:13 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:13 AM
    surely everyones entitled to a holiday, just tell them you are away for a week
    • Taylorette
    • By Taylorette 2nd Feb 11, 1:19 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:19 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:19 AM
    In my case I had to tell them when I was going on holiday, sign off for that period of time, and sign back on when I came back. I believe that's the correct procedure.
    • hippygran
    • By hippygran 2nd Feb 11, 1:21 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:21 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:21 AM
    Really don't think you have to worry.

    Whilst my niece was claiming Job seekers last Autumn, she got the chance to go and visit my sister (her aunt) in Jersey, all expenses paid, and they told her that it was classed as abroad, so she would not be able to claim the week's money if she went, BUT she was allowed to visit me as a holiday in Wales, as its the UK!!!!

    They were fine allowing here to change her signing on date, but did ask for my telephone contact details so they could phone her that week if they checked. She provided them with my address and telephone number as asked, but they didn't do any checking!

    Good job really - I would have had to say she was out! She was actually in Jersey!

    Still don't really get why the trip to Jersey wouldn't have been allowed - it was her 21st birthday treat!

    So, by that reckoning if you are going to Cornwall, and you tell them where, and you give them a phone number (you could even show them the booking confirmation, and tell them it was a gift!), then you shouldn't have any problems at all.

    Good Luck, and stop stressing, and have a lovely relaxing time!
    • marleyboy
    • By marleyboy 2nd Feb 11, 1:23 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:23 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:23 AM
    Yes you are entitled to holidays, I think only applies for UK holidays and its only two weeks, but you must give them notice.
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    • Taylorette
    • By Taylorette 2nd Feb 11, 1:26 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:26 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:26 AM
    If the above 2 posts are correct then I apologise for giving the wrong information - and I am very annoyed at the fact I was made to sign off while visiting family down south!
    • marleyboy
    • By marleyboy 2nd Feb 11, 1:31 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:31 AM
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    • 2nd Feb 11, 1:31 AM
    If the above 2 posts are correct then I apologise for giving the wrong information - and I am very annoyed at the fact I was made to sign off while visiting family down south!
    Originally posted by Taylorette
    You may receive Jobseeker's Benefit or Jobseeker's Allowance for two weeks holidays (i.e. 12 days excluding Sundays) in any calendar year. These holidays may be taken abroad.
    If you intend going on holidays abroad, you should inform the Local Office two weeks in advance of your departure and complete form UP 30. All holiday payments will be made retrospectively when you return. If you go on holiday for longer than two weeks, you may be paid in respect of the first two weeks, but will not receive payment for any period abroad in excess of this.
    The qualified adult of a person in receipt of Jobseeker's Benefit may take up to two weeks' foreign holiday. A disqualification in respect of the increase for a qualified adult will be imposed in respect of any period in excess of 2 weeks. It is not necessary to complete a UP30 in respect of a qualified adult.
    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Pages/jajbfaq.aspx#q22
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    • Taylorette
    • By Taylorette 2nd Feb 11, 1:44 AM
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    Taylorette
    Thank you so much for this. Every time I've enquired about going on holiday in the UK I have always been told I'd have to sign off and start claiming again when I'm back (by a number of staff members), and so I have. Do you think it's worth mentioning the above in relation to my previous enquiries (and subsequent loss of benefit) the next time I am there? I think I might do...



    Also, I've just looked at this thread. An old one, I know, but this post at least seems to contradict the "going abroad" ability stated in your link:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=703753&postcount=16
  • wantsajob
    +276 on the legend thing
    • marleyboy
    • By marleyboy 2nd Feb 11, 1:48 AM
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    marleyboy
    Just ask them for the UP30 form and you are covered
    1+1+1=1
    "Marleyboy you are a legend!"
    MarleyBoy "You are the Greatest"
    Marleyboy You Are A Legend!
    Marleyboy speaks sense
    marleyboy (total legend)
    Marleyboy - You are, indeed, a legend.
    • HappyMJ
    • By HappyMJ 2nd Feb 11, 1:48 AM
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    Why are you quoting the irish benefit system? As far as I remember we are in the UK.
    • marleyboy
    • By marleyboy 2nd Feb 11, 1:50 AM
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    The same rule applies in the UK
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  • ceridwen
    Thats useful to have.

    One thing I notice - I wondered why it was headed as being from the "Department for Social Protection" - and I guess that means it's something from Ireland (Southern Ireland maybe?).

    So - just in case of someone encountering a "know nothing" in the DWP who wouldnt take an Irish website as applying to England/Scotland/Wales - does anyone have a link to the like site under the DWP "banner"?
  • bluetownbarry
    Thats useful to have.

    One thing I notice - I wondered why it was headed as being from the "Department for Social Protection" - and I guess that means it's something from Ireland (Southern Ireland maybe?).

    So - just in case of someone encountering a "know nothing" in the DWP who wouldnt take an Irish website as applying to England/Scotland/Wales - does anyone have a link to the like site under the DWP "banner"?
    Originally posted by ceridwen

    This is what happens when Google goes bad! I don't doubt that the UK benefit rules are the same, but I wish people would properly check the facts before posting random websites to different country's benefit systems.
    • LittleVoice
    • By LittleVoice 2nd Feb 11, 7:24 AM
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    I do not believe the UK system is the same as the Southern Irish one. The UK certainly did not pay JSA during overseas holidays in 2001 and I hardly see the rules being relaxed over the last ten years.
    • dseventy
    • By dseventy 2nd Feb 11, 8:47 AM
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    dseventy
    You can't claim JSA and go abroad, you need to sign off and do a rapid-reclaim when you get back.

    You can claim and holiday on the UK. You need to give advance warning, provide contact numbers and be prepared to travel back if the JC+ find you something.

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    • CCFC_80
    • By CCFC_80 2nd Feb 11, 10:36 AM
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    CCFC_80
    Just to echo the above comment, unless the rules have changed over the past couple of months you would have to close your claim going abroad even if it's for just a day.Then you would need to make a rapid reclaim for JSA on your return.
  • cassieB57
    Just to echo the above comment, unless the rules have changed over the past couple of months you would have to close your claim going abroad even if it's for just a day.Then you would need to make a rapid reclaim for JSA on your return.
    Originally posted by andy46
    Although I agree most of this post is correct, you do not have to sign off if only abroad for one day-this is because you are treated as being in GB on the day you leave and the day you return; therefore if you went on Monday and came back the Tuesday for example, you'd be treated as still in Gb on both days. Note: this rule does not apply if you have a partner for whom your JSA includes a pensioner or disability premium, nor does it apply to attending an interview abroad, or taking a child abroad for medical treatment.
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