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Old 04-10-2010, 1:58 PM
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If i have had a baliff trying to gain access to my property and through luck more then anything they haven't got in yet, would I be silly to meet with them and let them in my house?

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Completely daft. This would allow them to do a levy or Walking possession oprder and thereafter if you are one day late paying them can bring a van and are allowed to remove your belongings. They can also charge you a substantial fee for frightening the living daylights out of you - expect £100-150 for the van fee alone.
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Don't do it. Just keep all windows shut and doors locked and speak to them through the letterbox. Don't even let them in to make a phonecall or use the loo!

Maximum they can charge you without access is about £42 for two visits.
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I did call them to arrange a payment plan but all they do is point me to the baliff and to give him a call.

Will they pass back to the council if they can't gain access?
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Don't do it. Just keep all windows shut and doors locked and speak to them through the letterbox. Don't even let them in to make a phonecall or use the loo!

Maximum they can charge you without access is about £42 for two visits.
They charged me £182 last time they visited... and they have been chasing me for months and months now.
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Hi

try this website http://www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/ - it is run but a user Herbie21 or send a PM to RoberoMoir if you need some more personalised help?

sorry I am not very up on bailiffs
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can you tell us what the debt is for council tax or parking ticket
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can you tell us what the debt is for council tax or parking ticket

It's for council tax
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Good. That minimises the total bailiff fees to £42.50 for two visits as long as you keep them out of ther house.
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They charged me £182 last time they visited... and they have been chasing me for months and months now.
They can only charge you £24.50 for the first visit and £18 subsequent visits. If they have charged you a van fee this is ridiculous as they can only take your goods if they have a WPO or have levied and they haven't. Report them to the council for a start, they are charging illegal fees.

How many times have they been to your house? And why aren't you paying? Can't or won't? If its won't you could get into very serious trouble i.e. be sent to prison If its can't then the council must be made aware and an arrangement made. Could you let us know the situation please?
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Good. That minimises the total bailiff fees to £42.50 for two visits as long as you keep them out of ther house.
I have advised the Bailiff that I'm not giving him access to my property and I then called the Council who stated that I have to let them in, and I can't set it up over the telephone. She stated that if I refuse then Ross and Roberts are sending the debt back to the council where they will apply for an arrest warrant for me!!!

Then I called the CAB and they advised I don't have to let them issue a Levvy to arrange a payment with them...

What Should I do!
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They can only charge you £24.50 for the first visit and £18 subsequent visits. If they have charged you a van fee this is ridiculous as they can only take your goods if they have a WPO or have levied and they haven't. Report them to the council for a start, they are charging illegal fees.

How many times have they been to your house? And why aren't you paying? Can't or won't? If its won't you could get into very serious trouble i.e. be sent to prison If its can't then the council must be made aware and an arrangement made. Could you let us know the situation please?
I lost my job a few months ago, and even though I've got another job I have not had any money to pay them it's that simple, I've asked the council to take the debt back but they refused.

I was originally charged 18 for a visit but then I was visited last week ( I was at work) and they'd charged me £160 odd quid. I want to make an arrangement, but I don't want them to come into my house.
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I lost my job a few months ago, and even though I've got another job I have not had any money to pay them it's that simple, I've asked the council to take the debt back but they refused.

I was originally charged 18 for a visit but then I was visited last week ( I was at work) and they'd charged me £160 odd quid. I want to make an arrangement, but I don't want them to come into my house.

Arrange to meet them at a mutually nutral place and take a freind with you or even a solicitor. Like a cafe. Unless they have a warrent you do not have to let them in . Even if they turn up with the police. No warrent = no comy ini .
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Arrange to meet them at a mutually nutral place and take a freind with you or even a solicitor. Like a cafe. Unless they have a warrent you do not have to let them in . Even if they turn up with the police. No warrent = no comy ini .
But if I do not agree to let them in, they're sending it back to the council and then it goes back to court again! He said I would be arrested over the debt if I don't complete the monthly payment form with him, and it HAS to be in my house...
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I have advised the Bailiff that I'm not giving him access to my property !
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and I then called the Council who stated that I have to let them in, and I can't set it up over the telephone. !
Do you have the name of this person, becauser you need to make a formal complaint avbout them. They are lying.

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She stated that if I refuse then Ross and Roberts are sending the debt back to the council where they will apply for an arrest warrant for me!!! !
That is complete boolocks. If the debt is sent back and you refuse long-term to pay anything off the debt, they will take you to court. If you still refuse to pay after the court case, then you could be committed to prison. I think it has happened a handful of times when people had an axe to grind.

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Then I called the CAB and they advised I don't have to let them issue a Levvy to arrange a payment with them... !
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What Should I do!
Right, ring back and ask to speak to the same person at the Council, ask them their name and job title. Then ask them the same questions, then tell them you are goign to ask the same questions and reciord their answers. See what happens.

Then get hold of your lcoal councillor and complain like mad as the Council officer are acting illegally.
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I lost my job a few months ago, and even though I've got another job I have not had any money to pay them it's that simple, I've asked the council to take the debt back but they refused.

I was originally charged 18 for a visit but then I was visited last week ( I was at work) and they'd charged me £160 odd quid. I want to make an arrangement, but I don't want them to come into my house.
A liability order must have been issued. How much CT do you actually owe? You must start paying something or you will be sent to prison. Don't let the bailiffs in. EVER. Send payment to the council by e-payment. If you have online banking you should be able to do this. If you are working why do you have no money for CT? If you on a low wage you should qualify for CTB. If you have other debts then they will have to wait. They can't send you to prison, Council Tax avoidance can.
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But if I do not agree to let them in, they're sending it back to the council and then it goes back to court again! He said I would be arrested over the debt if I don't complete the monthly payment form with him, and it HAS to be in my house...
Scare mongering at the worst .

You have agreed to meet them . What ever you do do not let them in your house.

As the post above states complain to r MP , councillor etc.
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A You must start paying something or you will be sent to prison. Don't let the bailiffs in. EVER. Send payment to the council by e-payment. If you have online banking you should be able to do this. If you are working why do you have no money for CT? .
It is legaly possible but very very very rare for anyone to be sent to prison for CT non-payment unless they are making a political statement.

OP, you need to make on-line payments if possible, or send the bailiffs a cheque.

Otherwise, put the money in a separate account and if it went to court, they would be stuffed if you produced a statment showing that you had been saving money towards the debt and prevented from paying.
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Do you have the name of this person, becauser you need to make a formal complaint avbout them. They are lying.



That is complete boolocks. If the debt is sent back and you refuse long-term to pay anything off the debt, they will take you to court. If you still refuse to pay after the court case, then you could be committed to prison. I think it has happened a handful of times when people had an axe to grind.



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Right, ring back and ask to speak to the same person at the Council, ask them their name and job title. Then ask them the same questions, then tell them you are goign to ask the same questions and reciord their answers. See what happens.

Then get hold of your lcoal councillor and complain like mad as the Council officer are acting illegally.
Thank you so much for your advice, I'll call the council back tomorrow and ask for her name, and I will also start paying the council with my ref number so that it shows I'm willing to pay the bill and then I'll go to court again and hopefully it'll work itself out without bailiff fees.

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Scare mongering at the worst .

You have agreed to meet them . What ever you do do not let them in your house.

As the post above states complain to r MP , councillor etc.
I have just drafted an email which I am going to send when I have the lady at the council who I spoke to today.

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