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Old 27-08-2006, 9:57 AM
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Have you ever painted yours and does it last or does the paint chip off after a while?

I inherited antique pine units and my kitchen looks so dark, I'd love to paint them. I'd be using primer, undercoat and eggshell paint (probably by Farrow & Ball). How durable is it really, I don't want to end up with a shabby-chic looking kitchen

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Old 27-08-2006, 10:10 AM
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I've never done it in the kitchen but have done it with furniture. Don't try to scrimp on the boring preparation, sanding etc as the finish won't last. It really is worth the extra effort for a professional finish.

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Old 27-08-2006, 10:15 AM
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That's what I though, thanks Rebecca. I was hoping I could get away with sanding...that is a horrible job especially when you have a toddler in the house.
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Old 27-08-2006, 10:21 AM
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I agree about the sanding. I would rather do ironing, scrubbing toilets etc rather than sanding. Can't complain too much though as it is rare that i do it due to my asthma. Hubby is really good and lets me get away with it.

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make sure you give the wood a good scrub with sugar soap
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Hi

We painted our kitchen cabinets abour 2 years ago, using Crown Kitchen Cabinet makeover paint. Looked lovely and light usage areas have kept up appearance. Heavy usage areas eg cupboard under sink are suffering though. Have kept remainder of paint handy and have had to touch up paint occasionally. Our main problem is style of doors - arches and grooves, etc which always seem to gather dirt and look untidy.

It was good while it lasted, but we are now refitting kitchen. Husband still thinks it would be possible to repaint doors, but he isn't the one who has to clean them.
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We painted the kitchen cabinets that we inherited with the house (laminate stuff not wood), and I wish I hadn't. I used the primer and then a specialist paint and it looked good for a couple of months. I then noticed that some of the paint was starting to peel off and when I washed down the units the paint came off too. We are now waiting to have the kitchen extended and have a new kitchen put in but in the meantime it looks worse than when we moved in!
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Old 28-08-2006, 5:17 PM
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I've used International melamine paint on a desk, and that worked well. However, the steamy atmosphere of a kitchen probably means you'll have to suss out paints that are very specifically for that task.
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Following on this thread.....

Are there any more reccomendations about the type (or Brand) of paint to use on kitchen units/doors?

I have seen a few different ones In B&Q etc....but I have no real idea which of them would give the best result in terms of look/finish?

My units are virtually new, and expensive....but the last owners had a 'wood fetish'...the walls, floors, kitchen units....ALL DARK WOOD..it makes what should be a bright wee cottage very dim!!!

I cant afford to replace the units, and replacing the doors alone is not really an option as there are lots of bits of wood finishers/downlights etc.....

All help and advice appreciated..........and NO I havn't grown to like the colour! My Retired parents like all the wood tho....is it a generation thing.....
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Old 28-12-2006, 8:25 AM
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I used the crown kitchen makeover paint on mine. wasnt a huge choice of colour but they had one to suit me. I finished off with a coat of clear matt varnish for protection. It gave my kitchen a new lease of life which will last a couple of years till we can upgrade. The old kitchen was a wood effect melamine I guess it was (dont know for sure). The sanding wasnt a big job -just a very light one and not necc all over either. I painted it first with some kind of melamine preparation from b and q. Ok the finish isnt brilliant as you can see some brush marks but it looks a lot more modern than it did. I bought some really cheap handles from ikea but they look really modern. With new flooring as well it will certainly last for a while. The cupboards were painted over 6 months ago and shows no problems- maybe it was the varnish (makes them easier to wipe).
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Old 28-12-2006, 10:26 AM
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Hi Overlandlandy, if your doors are made of real wood, then you must rub them down sandpaper, to get the shine off them, then use an oil-base undercoat, and U/C at least 2-3 times, lightly sanding down in between, then your last 2 coats, either use satinwood for a slight sheen, or eggshell for a matt finish, and both be oilbased.

Mrs baggins is also right, if you use ordinary kitchen paint, then apply 2 coats of varnish, again oil base for protection.

If your doors are a melamine finish, then buy some 'ESP' from any DIY stores, it comes a screw top metal container, and looks like water.
It is excellent stuff, its a primer for plastic, melamine etc, it tells you on tin what to do.
Once you have used the 'ESP', there is no need to rub down with that, you then do what I said above, U/C and top coat etc, preferable with oil base paint.
Hope this helps, if you need any more help let me know, as I have re-painted wood and melamine wardrobes, cupboards etc for years, so trust me, 'ESP' is the best thing on the market, but not for real wood.
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Old 28-12-2006, 12:23 PM
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Buy a small palm sander and you can do the sanding in seconds flat, makes loads of dust but makes the job much quicker. Use fine grade paper for the final sand. Also, you could use a small gloss/radiator roller to put the paint on rather than a paint brush - you get a really good even finish - don't bother to clean the roller out, just chuck it as they are pretty cheap. I redid my wardrobe doors about seven years ago and the finish from the small roller is excellent.

It might also be worth seeing if there is a local cabinet making company or joinery company nearby who could sand and spray the doors for you for a brilliant finish. Don't know how this would work out financially but they would advise you on paint to use etc.
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I painted the kitchen cupboard doors in my old house - melamine primer, then ordinary emulsion, and finally a coat of varnish. I also did the kitchen tiles using tile primer and then the three colours of emulsion I had used in the kitchen (doors, trims and walls) and also finished them off with a coat of varnish. The place still looked fantastic when I sold up 18 months later!
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Old 28-12-2006, 4:05 PM
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I painted mine with Farrow and Ball eggshell. Its really easy paint to use for this job. 2 coats did the trick with no need to undercoat.
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If replacing the doors alone isn't an option because there's so much finish of wood in other places, you might get a better finish with replacing the doors and just painting the other bits, providing the paint matches the new doors.

I suspect unless you're a very handy person you will see the brush marks and they would be much more noticeable on the doors than on small bits and pieces.
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We painted ours (Antique Pine effect) with Crown makeover paint in Natural Hessian, first gave them a good sanding with some coarse sandpaper.

They all took about 3 coats each, but it doesn't take too long as the paint is touch-dry in 2 hours.

The effect is a much lighter kitchen that it was before (too orange).

Though the next time we are planning on totally updating the kitchen, we only painted the cupboard doors, as we couldn't afford to do it this time.

Hope this helps,

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Old 08-01-2007, 12:38 AM
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Van, I sympathise. We bought a lovely house in 1985 but the previous owners had installed a kitchen with dark wooden oak doors and orange/brown units and contrast panels. Horrible is not the word. We lived with it until we extended in 1993 and bought a completely new kitchen in a white lacquered finish which is so much nicer. Amazingly we sold the orange kitchen units for quite a reasonable sum.

It might be possible to bleach your wood to give a paler or lighter finish.

Years ago there was a fad for bleaching old pine doors that had been painted. The doors were removed, taken away and dipped in baths of acid. This stripped the layers of paint and lightened the wood

Maybe it is still possible to get this done, though I don’t know if it can be done in situ if you need more than just the doors doing.

I think I have seen products sold for bleaching wood but I have never done it myself.

Have a search on google.
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Old 08-01-2007, 8:30 PM
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Can I recommend that you don't waste money on the so called specialist 'makeover' paints which are expensive and come in limited colours. Buy a melamine primer (I get own brand from somewhere like Wickes or Wilkinsons) and then use any oil based paint you want. I always use an eggshell. I think the trick, if painting (although I agree with other posters on trying to do something with the wood, if it's good quality, rather than covering up with paint) is to do several thin coats - a gloss roller is good for this. You may also want to seal at the end with a varnish. However,if you don't start with very, very thoroughly degreased surface, nothing is going to stick.

I also love the Farrow and Ball type colours but, unfortunately, with the amount of painting I've had to do my budget doesn't run to it for large jobs. However, I have taken a colour I like from those ranges (you could get a sample and paint it onto some white card) along to one of the places that will analyse the colour and mix up exactly the same colour for you. If you do this in an eggshell it comes out pretty well - it's not quite the same 'flat' finish but it's not far off and is a much more affordable option if you're doing several coats. I always go to the Johnstones' trade centres for this.

Some of the other options suggested are very good but bear in mind just how much ESP or bleaching kits you would use - it can work out very, very expensive.

Good Luck.

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PS Should point out, as have mentioned on another similar post, that I did painted cupboards in last house with good results but it took such an lot of time and effort that this time I just bought replacement doors and sacrificed quite good wooden ones!
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How do you tell if the doors are real wood or fake?
I live in a housing association house if that makes any difference?
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I'm not sure if it matters too much whether it is real wood or fake if you want to paint over. Quite often, the real wood doors have a really thick laquer on them anyway so it doesn't really make a difference when it comes to painting them - you've still got a 'shiny' surface that paint won't stick to. If it's unsealed wood, I'm sure you'd know. Even the doors that look like beach, or oak, are most likely to be some sort of laminate finish.
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