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    ElaineC
    Honda Jazz Handbrake problems
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:33 PM
    Honda Jazz Handbrake problems 6th Jun 10 at 9:33 PM
    Has anyone else had problems with the handbrake on their Honda Jazz? My car is 2 years old, and has a nasty habit of running away and bashing into bollards when it has been left on its own (not on a steep incline). The handbrake has been adjusted several times, and is always on when the car is left. Honda has basically said I am an incompetent little woman who has not got the strength to put the handbrake on properly. I have looked on the internet to find I am not the only one who has this problem, so would like to hear from anyone else so I can go back to Honda and sort it out. I believe the whole range needs to be recalled before someone is injured. The problem stems from when the brakes cool down, some few minutes after the car has been left parked. When leaving the car it seems safe and secure, but once the brakes cool down it starts to roll. Honda have said I should always leave it in gear, but that should not be necessary in my opinion, unless it is on a steep incline. Thanks for reading.
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  • Hammyman
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:36 PM
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:36 PM
    It actually makes sense if its rear disc brakes. When the brakes cool, the disc shrinks in size and the pads lose their grip. However, I'd expect you to be able to put it on OK though and I'd expect them to hold it on a slight incline. Its something I've never had happen to me. I assume its been regularly maintained so seized handbrake linkages wouldn't be an issue. Maybe one for Watchdog?
  • ElaineC
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:49 PM
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:49 PM
    Thanks for your reply. The car is regularly serviced, and the handbrake has been adjusted twice by the garage. I believe the handbrake is not fit for purpose. It is only a matter of time before someone gets hurt. Honda are very quiet about this problem. Also, the garage have now had my car for 3 weeks - it is beyond a joke.
    • cajef
    • By cajef 6th Jun 10, 9:58 PM
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:58 PM
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    • 6th Jun 10, 9:58 PM
    Honda have said I should always leave it in gear, but that should not be necessary in my opinion, unless it is on a steep incline.
    Originally posted by ElaineC
    There may be a problem however Honda are correct in the above statement for precisely the problem you are having, you should always leave any car in gear in case the handbrake is not secure or fails to hold the car.
    I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
    • thescouselander
    • By thescouselander 6th Jun 10, 10:42 PM
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    • 6th Jun 10, 10:42 PM
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    • 6th Jun 10, 10:42 PM
    My old BMW was exactly the same. The best solution is to leave the car in gear when you park.
    • marlot
    • By marlot 7th Jun 10, 6:13 AM
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    • 7th Jun 10, 6:13 AM
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    • 7th Jun 10, 6:13 AM
    Very common problem, not just with Honda.

    Whenever you park on a slope you should always park with the car in gear.
    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 7th Jun 10, 7:19 AM
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    • 7th Jun 10, 7:19 AM
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    • 7th Jun 10, 7:19 AM
    Ahhh Honda-the most reliable make? Common Problem?
  • ElaineC
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    • 13th Jun 10, 7:54 PM
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    • 13th Jun 10, 7:54 PM
    I have now had my car back from the garage. They have acknowledged that there was a fault, and have replaced the brake pads, calipers etc, and repaired the damage to the front of the car. They have also readjusted the handbrake so it is really stiff. I am still interested to know if anyone else has this problem. It may be a one-off, but it is still worrying that it has happened in the first place. Honda - the most reliable car???? - perhaps not.
    • verityboo
    • By verityboo 13th Jun 10, 9:50 PM
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    • 13th Jun 10, 9:50 PM
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    • 13th Jun 10, 9:50 PM
    Simples! If you are worried then do as the manufacturer has stated (and other posters here) and leave it in gear.

    They are always described these days as handbrakes, not parking brakes for good reason as Hammyman outlined. The handbooks of both the cars we own clearly state that the cars should be left in gear. Its beyond me why you feel that because in your opinion the handbrake should hold the car, somehow the laws of physics no longer apply
    • vikingaero
    • By vikingaero 13th Jun 10, 10:04 PM
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    vikingaero
    As others have mentioned, park in gear and turn the wheels towards the kerb.
    The man without a signature.
  • goldspanners

    They are always described these days as handbrakes, not parking brakes for good reason as Hammyman outlined. The handbooks of both the cars we own clearly state that the cars should be left in gear. Its beyond me why you feel that because in your opinion the handbrake should hold the car, somehow the laws of physics no longer apply
    Originally posted by verityboo
    i wonder if the op was driving an automatic if they would rely only on the handbrake? somehow i doubt it,im sure they would also leave the gearbox in "P" rather than "N".

    and i don't think a failing handbrake makes hondas any more or less reliable than anything else.
    ...work permit granted!
  • ElaineC
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    Thanks for your responses. There is no need for sarcasm - I was simply posting to see if it was a common issue. I do not claim to be an expert, just a person who assumes a car is fit for purpose.

    "Its beyond me why you feel that because in your opinion the handbrake should hold the car, somehow the laws of physics no longer apply"

    Anyway, thanks again for the constructive comments. It seems that the solution is as stated several times on this post - leave it in gear.
    • movilogo
    • By movilogo 15th Jun 10, 12:17 PM
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    movilogo
    Or in Park [P] mode if it is an automatic!
  • Alex198
    I too have had problems with the handbrake in my jazz. Unfortunately this is not a unique problem to this car. It is a fairly well known problem with the jazz. I got mine in 2007 when it was 3 years old and after only 2 weeks of owning it it rolled down a hill whilst parked on a carpark. Thankfully the damage was minimal and occurred to the boot, however my local dealer quoted 350 to food it, needless to say I have not bothered. I have seen many jazzs with a dent in the same place! Stupidly I did not leave the car in gear so you must always to this. It was recalled a year or so ago for the handbrake but it is still not perfect. I do not trust it on steep inclines even though now I always put it in gear. when stopping on a hill in traffic with the handbrake fully engaged the car can creep backwards and this problem seems to be getting worse. It now needs new rear brake discs and does not always turn over first time. I did want to keep the car for another year or two but despite it's low mileage and generally good reliability I do not wish to spend a lot of money on the car as it is now worth very little. I doubt that the situation with the handbrake will improve either. I will be searching for a vw golf or Volvo c30, I hope these don't have the same problem!
  • WatchingPaintDry
    We had our Jazz for five years and never had a problem with the handbrake as it worked perfectly. Sorry not able to help other than what others have said - i.e. leave in gear.
    • Horizon81
    • By Horizon81 18th Oct 10, 10:11 AM
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    Horizon81
    This problem has also been experienced by many Honda Civic owners.

    http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-faults-irritations/4495-handbrake-problems.html
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