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    • MSE Martin
    • By MSE Martin 24th Jan 05, 12:37 PM
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    Great 'disguised Own Brand' Hunt.
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    • 24th Jan 05, 12:37 PM
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    Great 'disguised Own Brand' Hunt. 24th Jan 05 at 12:37 PM
    You walk into the supermarket and see four levels of brands. But are M&S Jaffa cakes really made by McVities? Is there a difference between Tesco and Kellogs Bran Flakes? (see the Downshift Challenge section of the Money Diet for more info on this)

    Using MoneySavers Collective Knowledge

    I want to use the insider information of all MoneySavers to try and compile a list. Do you work in/or at a factory producing such goods. If you do - what's the difference or are they just the same things in disguise.

    This could be both food and electrical or other goods.

    What to do

    Please put

    A. What the main and sub-product are
    B. How you know
    C. Are there any differences

    To submit your info, just click reply

    Martin

    PS thanks to sumosaver for the idea for this.

    A Quick Warning

    It's worth remembering there is no way to check the info below, so take it all with a little pinch of salt (own brand?) but still probably worth trying the cheaper one



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    Last edited by MSE Andrea; 09-10-2015 at 12:36 PM.
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    • Shezza11
    • By Shezza11 15th Feb 17, 2:56 PM
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    Drugs Branded/Generic
    Having worked for a pharmaceutical company I learnt that when companies launch a new drug they have a licence which lasts for 10 years. During that time an identical drug cannot be launched by another company. That gives them 10 years to recoup all monies spent on research and development... hence the high prices.
    It also gives other drug companies time to break down and identify the ingredients and quantities.
    At exactly 10 years, to the minute, that the licence expires there will be a flood of exact copies launched at drastically reduced prices.
    So always ask for the generic
    If you're shelf shopping just check the ingredients listed on the packs

    You should have seen the mayhem when Pfizers licence for Viagra ended!!!

    As this is my first post I apologise if I'm trying to teach my Grandmother to suck eggs
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 15th Feb 17, 5:06 PM
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    Having worked for a pharmaceutical company I learnt that when companies launch a new drug they have a licence which lasts for 10 years. During that time an identical drug cannot be launched by another company. That gives them 10 years to recoup all monies spent on research and development... hence the high prices.
    It also gives other drug companies time to break down and identify the ingredients and quantities.
    At exactly 10 years, to the minute, that the licence expires there will be a flood of exact copies launched at drastically reduced prices.
    So always ask for the generic
    If you're shelf shopping just check the ingredients listed on the packs

    You should have seen the mayhem when Pfizers licence for Viagra ended!!!

    As this is my first post I apologise if I'm trying to teach my Grandmother to suck eggs
    Originally posted by Shezza11
    Not quite the same thing applies to foodstuffs, as there will be taste variations according to where the ingredients are sourced, varying proportions used, cooking times etc.

    We're here to work out what's the same from the production line / our own tastebuds!
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

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    • MR TAZMAN
    • By MR TAZMAN 11th Mar 17, 9:04 PM
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    MR TAZMAN
    Muller Yogurts
    Muller do make Aldi yogurt it is under the Brooklee name but it does not contain any Gelatin so it is okay for vegans and vegetarians,
    • hellsfairy
    • By hellsfairy 21st Apr 17, 3:28 PM
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    Muller yogurts
    Thank you, it's interesting to know that Muller make Aldi yogurts, and that they don't contain gelatin, however although they would be suitable for vegetarians, I'm afraid they wouldn't be suitable for vegans, who don't eat anything containing cows milk
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 21st Apr 17, 11:02 PM
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    VfM4meplse
    Muller do make Aldi yogurt it is under the Brooklee name but it does not contain any Gelatin so it is okay for vegans and vegetarians,
    Originally posted by MR TAZMAN
    Still full of sugar though, I bet!
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

    "No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio

    Hope is not a strategy ...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...If in doubt, don't pull out... I love chaz-ing!
    • ScarletMarble
    • By ScarletMarble 22nd Apr 17, 10:03 AM
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    Thank you, it's interesting to know that Muller make Aldi yogurts, and that they don't contain gelatin, however although they would be suitable for vegetarians, I'm afraid they wouldn't be suitable for vegans, who don't eat anything containing cows milk
    Originally posted by hellsfairy
    So why do they put gelatin in their own yoghurt? Not every veggie or vegan lives near an Aldi or relies on public transport which doesn't go near one. So have to rely on when other veggie friendly yoghurts go on offer?

    They will get more sales if they ditch the gelatin
    • jacqknife
    • By jacqknife 31st May 17, 7:14 AM
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    R. White's Lemonade.
    Years ago I worked quite high up in the Sales Department for R. White's. I can definitely confirm that Tesco's own label lemonade was definitely made identical to and produced at the same factory as R. WHite's at a fraction of the price.
    • jenniewb
    • By jenniewb 31st May 17, 1:12 PM
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    Years ago I worked quite high up in the Sales Department for R. White's. I can definitely confirm that Tesco's own label lemonade was definitely made identical to and produced at the same factory as R. WHite's at a fraction of the price.
    Originally posted by jacqknife
    I was just wondering how long ago?


    I used to only drink R-Whites (those who drink a lot of lemonade or diet lemonade as I used to will know there is a difference in taste).
    I used to try switching brands to find which cheaper brands would be the same so I could switch and save money or know what to buy if there was a shortage (yes I would describe that as an addiction )


    I remember that RWhites would be the most similar, but in a blind taste I could always pick it out and it was not identical. Are you sure they didn't add other things as it didn't taste the same when I used to drink it. At least not for the diet version anyway.
    • 20aday
    • By 20aday 4th Jun 17, 3:09 PM
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    20aday
    So why do they put gelatin in their own yoghurt? Not every veggie or vegan lives near an Aldi or relies on public transport which doesn't go near one. So have to rely on when other veggie friendly yoghurts go on offer?

    They will get more sales if they ditch the gelatin
    Originally posted by ScarletMarble
    It'd add as a thickening agent I'd imagine.
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    • ScarletMarble
    • By ScarletMarble 4th Jun 17, 6:59 PM
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    It'd add as a thickening agent I'd imagine.
    Originally posted by 20aday
    Other brands can do yoghurts without gelatine - Danone for one
    • RHemmings
    • By RHemmings 4th Jun 17, 7:51 PM
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    As far as I can see, ASDA own brand vegetarian burgers are the same as Linda McCartney ones. That includes the 1/4lb 'beef style' burgers.
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 4th Jun 17, 10:22 PM
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    VfM4meplse
    Years ago I worked quite high up in the Sales Department for R. White's. I can definitely confirm that Tesco's own label lemonade was definitely made identical to and produced at the same factory as R. WHite's at a fraction of the price.
    Originally posted by jacqknife
    Your post has brought back mememories - there are some ads that just can't be forgotten!
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

    "No man is worth, crawling on the earth"- adapted from Bob Crewe and Bob Gaudio

    Hope is not a strategy ...A child is for life, not just 18 years....Don't get me started on the NHS, because you won't win...If in doubt, don't pull out... I love chaz-ing!
    • benj111
    • By benj111 15th Jun 17, 4:47 PM
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    Hipp organic baby food £1.35ish
    Asda organic baby food £0.70
    Aldi organic baby food £0.69

    all have the same pouch and anti choke lid design, all are made in France.
    Unless France is a global centre of excellence for organic baby food, possibly/probably from the same factory???
    • MysteryMe
    • By MysteryMe 15th Jun 17, 6:29 PM
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    MysteryMe
    Your post has brought back memories - there are some ads that just can't be forgotten!
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    Ha ha, that ad came to mind as soon as I read R Whites


    Amazing how some ads can be remembered for close to 40 years later and others not so after 40 days.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 20th Jun 17, 10:27 PM
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    Sainsburys TtD Prosecco is made by Cantine Maschio ( you see the name on the side of the building), you can see it on the BBC 1 program Supermarket Shopping Secrets on monday 19th of June.
    Last edited by DCFC79; 21-06-2017 at 1:55 PM.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 24th Jun 17, 8:01 PM
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    Got another 1 for you, apparently Sainsburys cider (4 & 10 packs, maybe the 2Ltr bottles too) is made by Thatchers.

    This might have changed, the label says its made in Ireland amd the only Irish Cider producer that I know of is Magners so at a guess its now made by Magners.
    Last edited by DCFC79; 29-07-2017 at 8:53 PM.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 15th Jul 17, 8:58 PM
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    DCFC79
    One for those who like the Czech beanded lager Staropramen, a cheaper alternative is Sainsburys own brand Czech lager, says on the back of the label its brewed by Staropramen which I like rather than the brands brewed in the UK.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • Scritti
    • By Scritti 16th Jul 17, 10:59 AM
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    I would happily buy wheatabix - but not at normal price, prefer promo prices, or 48 + 50% extra. When, such offers aren't available I'll go with the supermarket I have conditional spend coupon for.

    However, just recently found an exclusion for that policy. Happened to pick Sainsburys version (48), didn't notice the 'new size' though I did wonder about the size of the box.
    Normal ones are rectangular with curved corners, these new ones, are round. And it's not just the size that's new, I think the recipe is as well - more stodgy!
    I be glad when they've gone, got a small box from Tesco for my Partner, but I will finish them off.
    Originally posted by no1catman


    I used to love the Sainsbury's own-brand Weetabix but the new round ones are absolutely vile and nowhere near as nice as the old ones. Bah.
    • Tardis4
    • By Tardis4 3rd Aug 17, 8:54 PM
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    Yeo Valley = Asda, S'burys, Coop, Collective Dairy, Tesco, Waitrose yogurts. This one has been listed before but someone doubted it - well this gov't recall should clear things up (: https://www.food.gov.uk/news-updates/news/2016/15375/yeo-valley-recalls-chilled-yoghurt-products
    • RHemmings
    • By RHemmings 5th Aug 17, 12:01 AM
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    I used to love the Sainsbury's own-brand Weetabix but the new round ones are absolutely vile and nowhere near as nice as the old ones. Bah.
    Originally posted by Scritti
    Email them and tell them. I've seen product changes reversed before.
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