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    • catford
    • By catford 25th Nov 09, 11:05 AM
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    Bad builder forum
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    • 25th Nov 09, 11:05 AM
    Bad builder forum 25th Nov 09 at 11:05 AM
    Is there a site or forum anywhere to expose and discuss poor builders and warn others off ?
    I am in the process of having a loft conversion done and it's a bl**dy nightmare.
    I would love to find out the truth about my builders reputation...not their version of it.:rolleyes:
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    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 29th Jun 17, 1:57 PM
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    hollydays
    I saw this post online and I am very upset that you took to the internet to report this. i have had work done by Mr fittes and I found him and his work to be first class. As any building works you do sometimes get some problems it is inherent that this DOES happen. I had a couple of minor problems which were fixed straight away. I know his wife had a brain injury in 2014 and he was unable to work so I think bad timing and I understand he offered to re-do the work for FREE.
    Your post is slander and you should do more due diligence and if someone does not come up to your high expectations give them a chance to put it right before taking your cowardly internet forum posts the the great and good !!!!!!!!
    Originally posted by Gaz hendo
    Which bits are slander?
    Last edited by hollydays; 29-06-2017 at 2:11 PM.
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 29th Jun 17, 2:30 PM
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    pogofish
    I saw this post online and I am very upset that you took to the internet to report this. i have had work done by Mr fittes and I found him and his work to be first class. As any building works you do sometimes get some problems it is inherent that this DOES happen. I had a couple of minor problems which were fixed straight away. I know his wife had a brain injury in 2014 and he was unable to work so I think bad timing and I understand he offered to re-do the work for FREE.
    Your post is slander and you should do more due diligence and if someone does not come up to your high expectations give them a chance to put it right before taking your cowardly internet forum posts the the great and good !!!!!!!!
    Originally posted by Gaz hendo
    Quoted for posterity.

    Do you realise that stooge-posting like this is nearly always taken as absolute prof that the subject is exactly what the original post says they are?

    So you should maybe read-up on the conditions on commercial-interest posting you clearly agreed to on signup!
    • Ardent1000
    • By Ardent1000 6th Jul 17, 12:10 PM
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    Mark Fittes - BSG/ WeatherAll / Bowmont Conservatories/Bowmont Home Improvements
    I saw this post online and I am very upset that you took to the internet to report this. i have had work done by Mr fittes and I found him and his work to be first class. As any building works you do sometimes get some problems it is inherent that this DOES happen. I had a couple of minor problems which were fixed straight away. I know his wife had a brain injury in 2014 and he was unable to work so I think bad timing and I understand he offered to re-do the work for FREE.
    Your post is slander and you should do more due diligence and if someone does not come up to your high expectations give them a chance to put it right before taking your cowardly internet forum posts the the great and good !!!!!!!!
    Originally posted by Gaz hendo
    Mark Fittes - BSG/ WeatherAll / Bowmont Conservatories/ Bowmont Home Improvements

    Just to put the record straight, Mark Fittes never offered to repair any work for free and we went on to win a Court Case in relation to his companies workmanship, indeed the Judge called Mr Fittes deceitful and economical with the truth in his summing up. Sadly the CCJ remains unpaid like many of Mark Fittes other debts.

    There are numerous debts left by Mark Fittes companies such as BSG Limited and WeatherAll Limited and I know of numerous victims of this man, and we even visited our local MP along with other families, regarding this mans activities, and the police were even in attendance at that meeting.

    Furthermore Mr Fittes has an ex-wife, and a girlfriend and was not married in 2014.

    As for your work I can not comment, however I have never seen Mr Fittes carry out any work, he just employs cheap subcontractors and uses equally cheap materials, indeed in our case he didn't even supply or use the materials that were supposedly ordered.

    Mr Fittes has a well documented history of bankrutcy, companies being struck off and liquidation, and some of his company records are there for everyone to see on Companies House Beta website whilst the London Gazette website provides details of his bankruptcies.

    I know Mr Fittes is allegedly operating another company called Bowmont whilst Bowmont Home Improvements use the same Logo and are based at a Garden Centre in Northumberland and operate in the North East of England, the company has been offering conservatory roofs, windows and other home improvements.

    Given our experience and that of numerous other people I know of, I would steer well clear of both Mr Fittes and his companies and can only warn other people about this man, who even charged us VAT when not registered and used illegal contracts.

    The disgusting mess that Mr Fittes company left when they walked off the job without finishing was appaling, even the Judge called it appalling in Court.

    As for slander, I think you will find that what I have written is called 'fair comment' or indeed 'honest comment' and is merely based on the facts.
    Last edited by Ardent1000; 04-08-2017 at 3:17 PM.
    • Lime14
    • By Lime14 15th Jul 17, 4:59 PM
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    Mark Fittes
    So someone else has been taken in by Mark Fittes, as Gaz Hendo has not been made aware of the facts.” Due diligence” on checking the facts first should have been applied here. Some of the details that follow have already been posted but they have obviously not been seen or ignored.

    This is not a one off; the number of complaints that were made to Trading Standards about Mark Fittes were in the mid twenties and went back to at least 2012. It is not cowardly to go on to an internet forum, but it is cowardly to run your business and take advantage of elderly and vulnerable people.

    In some cases the work was not up to standard and in at least 2 cases deposits were paid by customers but no work was carried out yet the deposits were not repaid. In the case I posted it was found after a complaint to the authorities about his company WeatherAll, that Mark Fittes had spent the couple’s £8.5k deposit within 11 days, so was in no position to fulfil their contract as he was already in serious debt. Mark Fittes did, however, tell people that he had paid the deposit back and that he had been left out of pocket, saying that he had bought supplies. It was only when he was confronted about these claims he made a repayment offer to the couple of £200 a month which would have taken around 4 years which they could not afford, nor did they trust him as in every conversation they had had with him they found out later he had lied to them. They also needed the work doing as soon as possible because the woman has degenerative spinal problems, which Mark Fittes knew about. The couple would also have had to sign a confidentiality agreement which would have prevented them from being witnesses when Trading Standards took Mark Fittes to court.

    That is why they went to county court to prove that he owed the money personally, because he made them pay the deposit into his personal bank account, not the limited company’s account. Nowhere on his business cards or flyers did it say that WeatherAll was a limited company. The couple obtained a County Court Judgement (CCJ) against Fittes personally in December 2015 for just under £11k as the judge agreed that Mark Fittes was personally liable. Mark Fittes lives in his fiance’s house and when you send the bailiffs in he says he has no assets so this debt remains unpaid and consequently the woman has lost all her medical retirement lump sum. Mark Fittes went personally bankrupt in May 2016. The couple have a document from the official receiver which proves that the debt has not been repaid. He left their debt off his application for bankruptcy and they believe it was so he could show people the documentation and say that he had paid the couple back. He came out of his bankruptcy in May 2017 but managed to go abroad on holiday 3 times during this time.

    On the same day Fittes informed the couple that his company had gone into administration (it never did - he just stopped trading) and they would not get their deposit back, he set up a website bowmont.net for a phoenix company Bowmont Roofing and Building Services which offered the exact same services as WeatherAll NE Ltd. Bowmont.net website now redirects to Bowmont Conservatory Roofs which is based in Wansbeck Garden Centre , Ashington.

    Trading Standards took Mark Fittes to magistrates court but when he elected to be tried in the Crown Court and they would have to pay for a barrister to represent them , the CEO of Northumberland County Council dropped all charges for 3 separate cases stating in April 2016 ".... the need to consider value for money and the pressures of managing finances within Local Government. Pursuing this case was not a sensible option in my opinion."

    Mark Fittes has been telling people that there is a “vendetta” against him because he has had bad luck in his business. There is no vendetta. It is because Mark Fittes has upset the lives of so many people that live in his area that he is very well known for his business practises and even some hard headed business people are disgusted by his actions. It is upsetting when lies are consistently being told and your intervention proves this.

    Anyone, as you know, can have difficulties in business but it is suggested that you look at Mark Fittes` business history which is available for anyone to see and make your own judgement. If Gaz Hendo actually knew the true circumstances of some of Fittes` customers even he might be shocked.

    All of this information is known to Trading Standards, Northumberland Council, the local MP and the police
    • TrackyH
    • By TrackyH 21st Jul 17, 5:26 PM
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    TrackyH
    BGPS Ltd.....Pro-Build
    Well... BGPS Ltd closed down after my factual review was published by Trading Standards and surprise surprise - another company has now been formed. So... another warning to anyone who has dealings with Les & Martin Cloughley of the newly formed Probuild Limited.. AVOID!!!
    Originally posted by RosesInTheHospital


    Hi, I can't see the comment you left on Trading Standards regarding BGPS Ltd - can you let me know please what it was about them why they suddenly closed that company and opened under another?
    We have them coming out for a quote
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 21st Jul 17, 7:42 PM
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    Hi, I can't see the comment you left on Trading Standards regarding BGPS Ltd - can you let me know please what it was about them why they suddenly closed that company and opened under another?
    We have them coming out for a quote
    Originally posted by TrackyH
    You might be unlucky in getting a reply from Roses.

    If your unsure why not phone them and say you have changed your mind.

    Go for another builder.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • casper181
    • By casper181 24th Jul 17, 11:17 AM
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    casper181
    Burr Living
    Avoid this builder


    I've lived in my house for 7 months. Snagging is still not done (constant broken promises) and shared areas (it's a development of 3 homes) are not complete and the builder won't give me firm dates when they might be.

    Even trades that subcontract for Burr Living can't stand the owner (Carl Burrows) and say he's an unreliable payer.

    On Companies House he has the following Directorships:

    BURR LIVING TWO LLP (OC400442)
    Company status: Active
    Correspondence address: 3.2 Southfield, Station Parade, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England, HG1 1HB

    LARCO SPORTS LIMITED (07346164)
    Company status: Liquidation
    Correspondence address: 11 Clifton Moor Business Village, James Nicolson Link, York, YO30 4XG

    BURR LIVING LIMITED (06410096)
    Company status: Active
    Correspondence address: 3.2 Southfield, Station Parade, Harrogate, Noth Yorkshire, England, HG1 1HB

    BURR COMMERCIAL LIMITED (06410097)
    Company status: Active
    Correspondence address: 3.2 Southfield, Station Parade, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England, HG1 1HB

    THE TURF UK LIMITED (04584475)
    Company status: Active
    Correspondence address: 3.2 Southfield, Station Parade, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England, HG1 1HB

    If you're planning on buying from any of his companies I would suggest you don't!
    • RosesInTheHospital
    • By RosesInTheHospital 28th Jul 17, 11:27 PM
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    RosesInTheHospital
    I've responded to your private message with more detail but in order ton answer the question:

    The comment on the Trading Standards was against the BGPS trading name. Once TS agreed the comment was valid BGPS cancelled their membership so their details and my comment were not available to view.
    • RosesInTheHospital
    • By RosesInTheHospital 28th Jul 17, 11:32 PM
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    RosesInTheHospital
    The above post was in repsonse to TrackyH.
    • Ardent1000
    • By Ardent1000 11th Aug 17, 4:02 PM
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    Gary Henderson - Bowmont Home Improvements Limited
    I saw this post online and I am very upset that you took to the internet to report this. i have had work done by Mr fittes and I found him and his work to be first class. As any building works you do sometimes get some problems it is inherent that this DOES happen. I had a couple of minor problems which were fixed straight away. I know his wife had a brain injury in 2014 and he was unable to work so I think bad timing and I understand he offered to re-do the work for FREE.
    Your post is slander and you should do more due diligence and if someone does not come up to your high expectations give them a chance to put it right before taking your cowardly internet forum posts the the great and good !!!!!!!!
    Originally posted by Gaz hendo
    This couldn't possible be the same Gaz Hendo or Gary Henderson who is now in partnership with Mark Fittes at a new limited company called Bowmont Home Improvements Limited as recorded on the Companies House Beta Website and also uses the name 'Bowmont Insulated Conservatory Roofs'.

    Bowmont Home Improvements Limited having the same address as 'Pay As You Glow Limited', also run by a Gary Henderson, which was recently made the subject of a compulsory winding up order by the High Court.

    Whilst a similar sounding Gary Henderson also has a company registered in the name of 'Glow Heating Limited' with a well known London post office forwarding address at 20-22 Wenlock Road, London, England, N1 7GU used bu numerous companies, and the same address in Sunderland as the former company 'Pay as You Glow'.

    Whilst the same address in Ponteland as 'Bowmont Home Improvements' companies house registered addressis used on the new 'Glow Heating and Bathrooms Website'. However the operationaal address for 'Bowmont Home Improvements' or 'Bowmont Insulated Conservatory Roofs' is at a Garden Centre in Wansbeck in Northumberland.

    That must have been some job Mark Fittes did for you Gary or should I say Gaz, for you to decide to go in to partnership with him and to give him such a glowing endorsement.

    As for Mr Fittes he has in fact just come out of personal bankrutcy for a second time and has also had numerous limited companies in the past such as BSG Limited which was also the subject of a compulsory winding up order by the High Court and WeatherAll (North East) Limited once again struck off without paying it's debts.

    Indeed you can go all the way back to the 1990's with WeatherAll Limited, North East Building Solutions, North East Building Services, BSG Limited and WeatheAll (North East) Limited and many other companies of Mr Fittes that have left debts or resulted in his bankruptcy.

    Obviously Mr Fittes seems to have a lot of problems when it comes to business and indeed when it comes to trading fairly, and you can see some of Mr Fittes and indeed Mr Hendersons information on sites such as companies house beta website and the London Gazette.

    I also advise anyone reading this to be very careful when it comes to paying any money up front or deposits, indeed do not pay a penny until you have the corrent materials and the job is carried out to your satisfaction, especially when it comes to companies with limited liability and people with a known track record of bankruptcy and liquidation.
    Last edited by Ardent1000; 21-08-2017 at 12:23 PM.
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