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    • far2812
    • By far2812 9th Nov 09, 3:28 PM
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    Should I pay back a deposit left for my car?
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:28 PM
    Should I pay back a deposit left for my car? 9th Nov 09 at 3:28 PM
    H All

    I sold my car to a guy (a policeman of all people!) 10 days ago.

    He left me a deposit for £200 and said that he was waiting for a cheque to clear.

    He called me this morning basically using every excuse in the book. He said that he wanted to do the transaction with my partner (even though my partner works away). I told him this - he has spoken to my partner a couple of times etc.

    Anyway, I am just babbling now - basically do I have to pay him the deposit back? I have had 5 calls since and told the people that the car is sold and deleted it off autotrader.

    I am just annoyed as I waited 10 days and then on the morning he was to collect the car, he cancelled.

    Many thanks
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    • hartcjhart
    • By hartcjhart 9th Nov 09, 3:33 PM
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    • #2
    • 9th Nov 09, 3:33 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:33 PM
    basically no you do not have to repay the deposit,BUT, him being old bill could make life awkward,ie continous vehicle stops etc,

    I would offer half back and say that you will keep the other half for the inconvenience caused,re-listing etc
    • bryanb
    • By bryanb 9th Nov 09, 3:38 PM
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    • #3
    • 9th Nov 09, 3:38 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:38 PM
    If it's your car why would he want to deal with your partner?
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
    • far2812
    • By far2812 9th Nov 09, 3:44 PM
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    • #4
    • 9th Nov 09, 3:44 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:44 PM
    The log book is in my partner's name..........but like I said - he has spoken to him 3 times about the car and was more than happy!
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  • terryya
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:46 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:46 PM
    I think you'd be well within your rights to keep it but personally I'd refund minus the cost of readvertising.
    • bryanb
    • By bryanb 9th Nov 09, 3:48 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:48 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:48 PM
    You don't say whether he is asking for deposit back? Is he the type to discuss sensibly? If so explain your extra costs etc.
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • Chippy Minton
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:52 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:52 PM
    If you decide to keep any/all of the deposit. Get it straight in your head why you are doing so and what exectly the law says about it. He may well threaten you with being locked up for theft etc. If so firmly remind him of your legal rights to with hold his deposit and that he ought to see legal advice or you will contact his professional standards department.
  • BenL
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:53 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 3:53 PM
    The guys HPI guarantee will not be valid unless he deals with the registered keeper (your partner)

    They should not expect all the deposit back, depending on how you feel you may want to return some of it though.
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Nov 09, 4:06 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 4:06 PM
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    • 9th Nov 09, 4:06 PM
    Don't fall out with a policeman (and pay your dentist's bill on time).

    They both have ways to get their revenge!
  • Premier
    How long is your partner away for?

    Why can't the deal be finalised on your partner's return?

    How is the car supposed to be paid for?
    By cheque? If so, just have the cheque made payable to your partner,
    By Bank transfer? If so, get the buyer to transfer funds to your partners account.

    If the buyer has spoken to your partner, what exactly is the issue? Is this something that wasn't evident to the buyer when they originally left the deposit?
    • maninthestreet
    • By maninthestreet 9th Nov 09, 4:12 PM
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    The registered keeper is not necessarily the same the as the legal owner. If he wants to buy the car, he has to pay the legal owner, not the RK.
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  • Anihilator
    I personally think its entirely reasonable of him wanting to deal with the RK. All the literature says to do this at their home address to avoid scams and frauds.

    I personally think you have no entitlement to keep the deposit as his request is perfectly reasonable and fair.
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 9th Nov 09, 4:56 PM
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    Wait till you sell the car and then decide.

    If you lose out then deduct any costs from the £200 and itemise it out for him.

    If you make on the deal - then give him back his £200

    seemples.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
    • Rolandtheroadie
    • By Rolandtheroadie 9th Nov 09, 4:57 PM
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    Would Arnold Clark give him his £200 back?
  • Anihilator
    Would Arnold Clark give him his £200 back?
    Originally posted by scotsman4th
    I think in the circumstances they were trying to sell a car they couldnt prove they owned then yes.
    • Rolandtheroadie
    • By Rolandtheroadie 9th Nov 09, 5:08 PM
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    I think in the circumstances they were trying to sell a car they couldnt prove they owned then yes.
    Originally posted by Anihilator
    I'm thinking the guy was happy enough to leave the deposit with someone who wasnt on the registration document, whats changed?
    • hartcjhart
    • By hartcjhart 9th Nov 09, 5:12 PM
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    I think in the circumstances they were trying to sell a car they couldnt prove they owned then yes.
    Originally posted by Anihilator

    how do you prove you own the car??

    and why do people make so much fuss about the registration document:confused:
    • far2812
    • By far2812 9th Nov 09, 7:02 PM
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    Thanks everyone for your advice.

    I have offered him a copy of my passport etc but he just seemed to have changed his mind and used the excuse that my partner isn't here at the moment.

    I did explain that to him when he left the deposit and said that I would have my partner sign the log book!

    To be honest, when he left the deposit he said it would be a couple of days before the cheque cleared in his account - then this just went on and on until this morning when he said that he wanted to do the transaction with my partner!!!

    He has asked about the deposit and I left it open saying I need to speak to my partner!

    I think McKneff is right - I will wait until the car sells and if I lose, then he loses..........I think that's only fair.!
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    • Gavin83
    • By Gavin83 9th Nov 09, 7:52 PM
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    Is your partner not likely to be around anytime soon?
    • far2812
    • By far2812 9th Nov 09, 9:06 PM
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    Well he has been posted down South on a big building job and the plan was for him to stay down there for a few weeks (saves spending money on travelling) and he gets double time for overtime!

    If it was worth it - he would come home - but just to come home to show his face doesn't seem valid reason enough really!
    Total Quidco earnings - £547.98

    Everyone is scared of someone or something, everyone loves someone or something, and everyone has lost someone or something! BE NICE!
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