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    • larryuk
    • By larryuk 23rd Sep 09, 8:56 PM
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    larryuk
    Owner left site - UKPC and Debt Recovery Plus Ltd
    • #1
    • 23rd Sep 09, 8:56 PM
    Owner left site - UKPC and Debt Recovery Plus Ltd 23rd Sep 09 at 8:56 PM
    Hi all,

    Just looking for some reassurance! Think I'm OK but just want to make sure!

    Back in August my car was parked in local retail car park and got a ticket slapped on it by UKPC Ltd for the contravention of "Owner left the site"

    I had a notice through the post a few days later and then a final reminder a week or so ago. Today I have received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd. They state that their letter is a notice of Intended Litigation, and unless the charge is paid within 10 days their solicitors may take legal action which could lead to a CCJ. They state their enforcement options include:
    • Warrant of execution by bailiffs against goods owned
    • An attachment of earnings order
    • your personal effects being sold to pay the amount at judgement
    OK, so up until now I have completely ignored everything. Am I right to think that it is safe to continue to ignore this latest letter?
    As far as I am aware, bailiffs cannot enter my premises unless under a court appointed warrant, correct?

    Oh, and the charge has gone up from £90 to £141.75 - Are they seriously saying that it has cost them £51.75 to just send me a letter?

    Any reassurance?
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    • Orford
    • By Orford 23rd Sep 09, 9:09 PM
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    Orford
    • #2
    • 23rd Sep 09, 9:09 PM
    • #2
    • 23rd Sep 09, 9:09 PM
    They state that their letter is a notice of Intended Litigation, and unless the charge is paid within 10 days their solicitors may take legal action which could lead to a CCJ.
    Originally posted by larryuk
    Crucial words are may and could
    . They state their enforcement options include:
    • Warrant of execution by bailiffs against goods owned
    • An attachment of earnings order
    • your personal effects being sold to pay the amount at judgement
    Originally posted by larryuk
    For any of these to happen they have to issue a court claim, then win the case and for you to refuse to pay the judgement within 28 days. Ain't goin' to happen.
    • larryuk
    • By larryuk 23rd Sep 09, 9:16 PM
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    • #3
    • 23rd Sep 09, 9:16 PM
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    • 23rd Sep 09, 9:16 PM
    That's what I was thinking! Thanks!
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 23rd Sep 09, 9:25 PM
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    • #4
    • 23rd Sep 09, 9:25 PM
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    • 23rd Sep 09, 9:25 PM
    These people should be hung by their doings for intimidation like this.
    Its people who are not in the know and dont actually see the words
    'may and could' and take it all literally.

    They shoulddnt be allowed to mention bailiffs, taking goods, its misleading but they get away with it because of the words may and could.
    There should be more legislation against these cowboys.
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
  • Berkshiregirl
    • #5
    • 24th Sep 09, 2:06 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 2:06 PM
    If it makes you feel any better, I've had exactly the same letter from them last week.

    Does anyone know from experience what the pattern is with UKPC? I've had two from them and 1 from Debt Recovery Plus so far!
    • sarahg1969
    • By sarahg1969 24th Sep 09, 3:06 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 3:06 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 3:06 PM
    Look who's here.
    • muckybutt
    • By muckybutt 24th Sep 09, 3:12 PM
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    • #7
    • 24th Sep 09, 3:12 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 3:12 PM
    If you left the site then you have to pay.
    Originally posted by OrangeSteve
    Warning Warning MUPPET ALERT
    • cajef
    • By cajef 24th Sep 09, 3:19 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 3:19 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 3:19 PM
    Oh! the comedians are back.
    I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
    • sarahg1969
    • By sarahg1969 24th Sep 09, 4:29 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 4:29 PM
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    • 24th Sep 09, 4:29 PM
    Some people's logic seems a little warped.
    Originally posted by OrangeSteve
    That bit I do agree with.
    • downhiller
    • By downhiller 24th Sep 09, 4:29 PM
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    If you left the site then you have to pay.
    Originally posted by OrangeSteve
    Who has to pay exactly? The RK? Post a link to the law that states the RK is responsible?
    • bargepole
    • By bargepole 24th Sep 09, 4:39 PM
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    Why do some people find parking rules so hard to understand.

    If the sign says "You are not allowed to leave the site" then you mustn't leave the site.

    Some people's logic seems a little warped.
    Originally posted by OrangeSteve
    So in the warped-logic world of the scamming parking companies, someone could drive to a retail park, spend £400 in Comet, pop across the road to the bank cash machine, come back and spend £25 in Pizza Hut.

    But, because he had the temerity to leave the site, they want to charge him an extra £80 or whatever for the privilege of spending his money with those retailers.

    I'm surprised the parking companies don't put up signs saying "only people wearing beige cardigans allowed to park here, £80 penalty applies", those "rules" would be equally ridiculous and the tickets equally unenforceable.
    Speeding cases fought: 24 (3 of mine, 21 for others). Cases won: 20. Points on licence: 0. Private Parking Court Cases: Won 16. Lost 5.
  • potnoodleprincess
    Hi

    I have had a ticket from a similar company and it has been passed to a DCA now too. I got the same letter as you about a month ago and no one has turned up yet to take the TV so dont worry too much

    PNP
  • potnoodleprincess
    Why do some people find parking rules so hard to understand.

    If the sign says "You are not allowed to leave the site" then you mustn't leave the site.

    Some people's logic seems a little warped.
    Originally posted by OrangeSteve
    So, Orangesteve

    Does that mean they have to live there forever ? As according to your instructions, they are not allowed to leave. What about when they want to go to work
  • HXL
    Hi all,

    Just looking for some reassurance! Think I'm OK but just want to make sure!

    Back in August my car was parked in local retail car park and got a ticket slapped on it by UKPC Ltd for the contravention of "Owner left the site"

    I had a notice through the post a few days later and then a final reminder a week or so ago. Today I have received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd. They state that their letter is a notice of Intended Litigation, and unless the charge is paid within 10 days their solicitors may take legal action which could lead to a CCJ. They state their enforcement options include:
    • Warrant of execution by bailiffs against goods owned
    • An attachment of earnings order
    • your personal effects being sold to pay the amount at judgement
    OK, so up until now I have completely ignored everything. Am I right to think that it is safe to continue to ignore this latest letter?
    As far as I am aware, bailiffs cannot enter my premises unless under a court appointed warrant, correct?

    Oh, and the charge has gone up from £90 to £141.75 - Are they seriously saying that it has cost them £51.75 to just send me a letter?

    Any reassurance?
    Originally posted by larryuk
    I have the same thing happened to me last month, parked my car in the retail park at 8:35am,and the Mothercare shop opens from 9am, so I went to town first instead of waiting for the shop to open. I got a ticket on my car when I came back says 'Owner left the site' at 8:35am. Anyway I sent them a letter, they responed and I didn't pay, and they send me the bill for £90, I didn't pay, and the Debt Recovery Plus sent me a bill for £141.75, I didn't pay, today I received another letter again, but I am not planning to pay, see what they are going to do to me.
  • Toothmaker
    Hi, just joining the conversation here because......wait for it......We recieved a letter also today threatening court action 400 miles from where we live ( and the carpark my wife accidently parked in !!!!), how can they threten that???, also all the other extras mentioned so far like, a CCJ and Baliffs comming to the house ect....
    We have been given seven days to pay otherwise "legal papers will be lodged" in Liverpool.
    CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PAPERS ARE LODGED?, and what do you do to mount a defence???
    • mcjordi
    • By mcjordi 1st Oct 09, 7:20 PM
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    mcjordi
    they wont lodge them they dont have a chance in hell of winning..

    i got one of town and city for parking in asda on double yellow lines! hmm like they are legal on private land errr no..
    even tho i wasnt parked i was picking my sister up with her shopping.. he said something to her so i told him to apologise or get knocked out.. he promptly !!!!!!ed off into asda..
    they are chancers pure and simple trying to frighten you into paying.. nothing will happen. i got one 3 years back which i ignored and am still waiting on court action haha
    Last edited by mcjordi; 01-10-2009 at 7:24 PM.
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  • northern5
    Firstly debt recovery plus have powers to take you to court, the PPC must do it. If they ever did then it would be transferred to a court of your choice (eg the one nearest to you).

    These sorts of cases never get taken to court because a) they are writing the registered keeper who may be the driver, but the PPC don't know for sure. Secondly, how can they prove the RK left the site, did they film at all times. Mr. clamper saying "I saw him" isn't really that convincing!
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 2nd Oct 09, 12:09 AM
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    Coupon-mad
    Firstly debt recovery plus have powers to take you to court, the PPC must do it. If they ever did then it would be transferred to a court of your choice (eg the one nearest to you).

    These sorts of cases never get taken to court because a) they are writing the registered keeper who may be the driver, but the PPC don't know for sure. Secondly, how can they prove the RK left the site, did they film at all times. Mr. clamper saying "I saw him" isn't really that convincing!
    Originally posted by northern5


    ...and thirdly (and most importantly as far as the scammers are concerned) - they would be laughed out of Court with the amount they try to hit people with! By law, they cannot claim anything for trespass except consequential loss (= zero in a free car park, never mind their stupid 'rules').

    It is a scandal that these PPC people are not thrown into jail for extortion.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • double H
    Hey all!!! Im new to this, 4t I wud join cos im sick of gettin these letters from debt recovery plus telling me to pay £147.50, which is a stupid amount for a parking ticket, plus they have the wrong surname on the letters, DVLA have game them my previous surname not my current one which is on my driving license n all other documents, at the moment there threatening intended Litigation!! but court action over a parking ticket???? doesnt sound realistic, i was parked outside my friends flat while visiting him, i was in a car park n wasnt aware i had to have a parkin permit! Jus wanna kno if this is gonna affect my credit by not paying??????
    • Orford
    • By Orford 19th Nov 09, 6:08 PM
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    Orford
    Jus wanna kno if this is gonna affect my credit by not paying??????
    No, first they have to take you to court, then they have to win, then you have 28 days to pay. If you don't pay, only then would it affect your credit rating.
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