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    • CuddlySteve
    • By CuddlySteve 20th Sep 15, 4:30 PM
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    The article discusses transferring a CTF into a J-ISA, but does not discuss whether it is possible to hold both concurrently, as you can ho;d different ISAs from different years.
    • colsten
    • By colsten 20th Sep 15, 7:03 PM
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    you cannot. See http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5327640&highlight=
    • Kmcelli333
    • By Kmcelli333 1st Jan 16, 11:32 PM
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    Hi I'm a Brit living and working in the states. Both my kids have CTF's estblished from our time in the UK. They are losing value each year. Anyone know if I'm able to transfer them to another provider, with not being resident in the UK ? Or transfer them to a 529 college fund in the US? Can't get any advice on this from them....any views from forum members please? Thanks so much.
    • Justindouglas
    • By Justindouglas 6th Jan 16, 11:41 AM
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    Quick query, I read this part of the CTF guide 'All savings put into CTFs are free from both income and capital gains tax, and the Government has confirmed there are no plans to change this, even though the spotlight has moved on to Junior ISAs.' and thought it meant contributions from a parent were free from income tax (like a pension contribution)....but is that just wishful thinking?

    HMRC say so (child trust fund contributions are liable for tax relief) ...but you're never sure how much the person you speak to knows...
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 6th Jan 16, 11:59 AM
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    Hi I'm a Brit living and working in the states. Both my kids have CTF's estblished from our time in the UK. They are losing value each year. Anyone know if I'm able to transfer them to another provider, with not being resident in the UK ? Or transfer them to a 529 college fund in the US? Can't get any advice on this from them....any views from forum members please? Thanks so much.
    The money in the accounts cannot be accessed or moved into accounts other than CTF/JISA until the child is 18 (except in the case of terminal illness - see http://www3.moneysavingexpert.com/files/ctf_guide.pdf

    The above was the guide to CTF when originally started - you will see that the question of a child moving abroad is covered.

    The CTF is now transferable to the more flexible JISA (the CF is also transferable to another CTF provider as a CTF) and it would not seem to me that the fact of the child's living abroad should alter this but clearly you would need to contact the new provider.

    https://www.gov.uk/junior-individual-savings-accounts/add-money-to-an-account

    You will note from above "If your child moves abroad, you can still add cash to their Junior ISA."

    http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/news/how-to-transfer-a-ctf-to-a-jisa/0085961/
    • stoddy2k01
    • By stoddy2k01 27th Apr 16, 12:37 PM
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    I have a child trust fund with children's mutual. i want to move it to a children's isa or basically somewhere it can grow better than where it is now.

    I have been in touch with hargreaves /Lansdown and they have explained something but to be honest i have no idea.

    Could anyone here perhaps offer a good investment where i could transfer the ctf..

    thanks
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 27th Apr 16, 1:33 PM
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    Could anyone here perhaps offer a good investment where i could transfer the ctf..
    This would not be permitted on the board. People may indicate their own experiences and choices.

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/investing/article-1587994/Junior-Isa-Child-Trust-Fund-How-save-invest-children.html

    The above article may be of interest.
    • ernie-money
    • By ernie-money 28th Sep 16, 10:45 PM
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    I have had my sons ctf money in a stakeholder account, which tracks the ftse 100. His nan has paid in some money over the years, so the fund value is currently about £1900. With the ftse index currently being quite high, I thought it would be a good time to transfer the account into a junior cash isa, rather than risking the value to drop before he turns 18.
    The provider initially told me that I could switch the funds into the cash holding account, so that I could chose a good point in time to sell, and then switch to a junior isa with a different provider, but this now doesn't appear to be possible. The only way of switching the funds is to send off a form in the post, which will be processed in due course, and the sale will just take place whenever they get to it, with no way of choosing when.
    I was just wondering if anyone has any advice on this; if there is any way around it at all..?
    Thanks in advance.
    I don't think I can hang on til Friday...
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 28th Sep 16, 11:09 PM
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    Who is the provider?
    • BrianPeterson
    • By BrianPeterson 29th Sep 16, 5:52 AM
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    Thanks for the tips...
    • ernie-money
    • By ernie-money 29th Sep 16, 7:39 AM
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    Who is the provider?
    Originally posted by xylophone
    The provider is F&C, http://www.fandc.com/uk/private-investors/
    But I got the impression that it's general legislation that prevents the funds from being transferred to the cash account?
    I don't think I can hang on til Friday...
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 29th Sep 16, 8:54 PM
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    The F&C stakeholder CTF gives you only one option, the All Shares Tracker Fund, but you want to transfer into a Money Markets Fund?

    Their JISA allows access only to their range of investment trusts?

    If you want a wider choice, you could transfer the CTF to a JISA with say, Charles Stanley or HL?

    You would be able to choose your investments and have them sold within a couple of days or so and hold cash within the account.

    It would be possible to transfer the cash to a cash JISA.

    Or you could choose now to transfer the F&C CTF to a cash JISA provider?

    How old is your child now?
    • ernie-money
    • By ernie-money 12th Oct 16, 8:13 PM
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    The F&C stakeholder CTF gives you only one option, the All Shares Tracker Fund, but you want to transfer into a Money Markets Fund?

    Their JISA allows access only to their range of investment trusts?

    If you want a wider choice, you could transfer the CTF to a JISA with say, Charles Stanley or HL?

    You would be able to choose your investments and have them sold within a couple of days or so and hold cash within the account.

    It would be possible to transfer the cash to a cash JISA.

    Or you could choose now to transfer the F&C CTF to a cash JISA provider?

    How old is your child now?
    Originally posted by xylophone
    Sorry, I never noticed the reply until now!
    My son is now 13, and I was thinking of transferring to Nationwides cash junior isa, as they offer a decent(ish) flat interest rate with no bonus that will expire, rather than risking future fluctuations in the stock market. If I timed it right, I thought it could be a good move, but it looks like the only way of doing this is by sending off the form in the post, and having no way of choosing when the sale takes place...
    I don't think I can hang on til Friday...
    • Robofw9
    • By Robofw9 5th Dec 16, 2:43 PM
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    Something Fishy @ Childrens Mutual?
    Our son has a stakeholder CTF from 2002 with Childrens Mutual. CM was taken over by Foresters Financial in 2013. It now looks like CM is disappearing as a brand so the CTF is transferring to FF direct management from January 2017. But it's under their insurance arm Forester Life so seems to change into some kind of insurance product.

    CM's helpline said the new FF/FL product is still a CTF & we can still transfer out to a junior ISA as before.

    Have I anything to worry about? If I don't want the CM CTF to be transferred to FF/FL I have to arrange a new CTF to transfer it into by 16/12/16.

    From the waiting time, the CM helpline is very busy!

    I think we should move to a JISA some time - just want to know if I should act now.

    Many thanks
    • tribpot
    • By tribpot 3rd Jan 17, 12:17 PM
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    CTF to JISA - needs third party to 'extract' the money
    Hope you can help me. I'm trying to transfer my son's CTF into a Junior ISA but Tesco Bank are telling me they are unable to do this directly:
    CTFs can be transferred into Junior ISAs, but we require the CTF to be closed in order to facilitate the transfer. Closure of a CTF (and the extraction of the funds) is a service which we unfortunately are unable to provide
    I haven't read anything about this elsewhere, am I missing something?
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 3rd Jan 17, 2:00 PM
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    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/isa-manager-bulletin-65/guidance-transfer-of-a-child-trust-fund-to-a-junior-isa

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5539856&highlight=transfer+ctf

    http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/news/how-to-transfer-a-ctf-to-a-jisa/0085961/

    Approach the provider who is to hold the JISA and ask for the transfer to be arranged.
    • cloud_dog
    • By cloud_dog 3rd Jan 17, 2:07 PM
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    I haven't read anything about this elsewhere, am I missing something?
    Originally posted by tribpot
    What are you transferring?

    Is it currently in an investment CTF, is it in cash or stocks (investments), or is it a cash (savings) based CTF ? What are you transferring it into; cash / investments JISA?
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    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 3rd Jan 17, 5:22 PM
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    xylophone
    https://www.tescobank.com/assets/sections/savings/pdf/tesco-junior-cash-isa-key-features.pdf?_=cachebuster06042016

    Is the rate on the Tesco CTF the same as on their JISA?
    • tribpot
    • By tribpot 3rd Jan 17, 6:12 PM
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    Approach the provider who is to hold the JISA and ask for the transfer to be arranged.
    Originally posted by xylophone
    They are the ones saying they cannot arrange the transfer.

    I'm transferring a stocks and shares CTF to a Cash ISA.

    Tesco don't offer a CTF.
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 3rd Jan 17, 6:51 PM
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    xylophone
    Sorry, I misunderstood your post.

    However, it is possible to transfer a CTF to a Tesco JISA (see link in 318 above under who can have a Tesco Bank Junior ISA)

    Here is the transfer form

    https://www.tescobank.com/assets/sections/savings/pdf/tesco-junior-cash-isa-transfer.pdf

    However, you may need to sell the investments within the CTF so that it is holding only cash before asking Tesco to arrange the transfer?

    And note the information in post 2 here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5539856&highlight=transfer+ctf
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