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Ford Mondeo Enigine Management Lights ALL On HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Doodles22
Old 21-07-2009, 8:29 PM
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Default Ford Mondeo Enigine Management Lights ALL On HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am really in need of some urgent advice and am calling on all you faithful MSE members.
I went to work this morning as normal no problem, I parked up and then went out for lunch and when I got in I noticed after starting the car ALL the engine management lights are on
I have the ABS light, Traction light on and handbrake light stays on even when the handbrake is disengaged

I hoped they'd go off, but after going home again they have said on and don't appear to be willing to go off, so I tried one thing thinking maybe the handbrake was jammed on sightly and took the car for a drive along road that no one is about in and took the car upto 60 miles an hour and suddenly jammed the brakes on, the car did skid sightly and the ABS appears now to be failing.

Before doing this check I felt all brake drums and there red hot and so is the brake unit under the boonet
This sounds to me like a complete brake failure on the whole system, right after I've spent 1000's on it and 700 to get it through an MOT last week


I have no ideal what else to do now, the car drives but the brakes are all funny now and I wouldn't risk going on the motorway with it now

I have it booked in to be placed on to faults computer Thursday at my local garage.

However anyone have any ideals?
By the way, I tried the resetting the ECU myself and the lights just come back on.
Also the brake drums are red hot from only driving arouund 4 miles and is it normal for the braking unit under the bonnet to be RED HOT and unable to keep your hand on it.


All advice welcome

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Old 21-07-2009, 9:13 PM
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My first bit of advice is thus:

Quit with the smilies ffs...!
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Old 21-07-2009, 9:59 PM
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Mondeo nut here so hopefully Ill be able to help:

Which check lights are on exactly?

Do you have any leaks/fluid where teh car is usually parked? Do you still have plenty of break fluid in the reseviour (white bottle, location depending on which engine you have, usually to the top right hand side of the engine next to the black drum/break)?

Also, is yours a 1.6, 1.8, 2.0 Zetec engine or 2.5v6 Duratec engine?

Which year or Mark is your mondeo?

Whatever the problem is, if its a older mondeo (Mk1 or MK2) then I'm sure its a cheap fix!
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Old 21-07-2009, 10:32 PM
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Mondeo nut here so hopefully Ill be able to help:

Which check lights are on exactly?

Do you have any leaks/fluid where teh car is usually parked? Do you still have plenty of break fluid in the reseviour (white bottle, location depending on which engine you have, usually to the top right hand side of the engine next to the black drum/break)?

Also, is yours a 1.6, 1.8, 2.0 Zetec engine or 2.5v6 Duratec engine?

Which year or Mark is your mondeo?

Whatever the problem is, if its a older mondeo (Mk1 or MK2) then I'm sure its a cheap fix!
Hi
thank's for your kind reply mate!
I have the handbrake light on, even when the handbrake is down(released) ABS light on and Traction control light on.
The fluids are all fine, upto MAX.
No leaks from what I can see, has just come on suddenly today.

It is a 2000 plate 2.5 V6 DuraTec engine.
The reseviour was red hot when I felt it earlier, is that normal?:confused:
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Old 21-07-2009, 11:08 PM
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i thought a wealth of knowledge like you doodles would have at first suspected the alternator to be faulty, or is that too obvious?
...work permit granted!
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The brake fluid is roasting hot because one or more calipers/shoes are permanently engaged on a disc/drum.

I suggest you first check to see if the ABS sensors on whichever wheels they're mounted on, are in good condition and not full of crud.
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The brake fluid is roasting hot because one or more calipers/shoes are permanently engaged on a disc/drum.

I suggest you first check to see if the ABS sensors on whichever wheels they're mounted on, are in good condition and not full of crud.

But all the lights are on

I am pretty upset about this to be fair

All that money spent and now this, time to get the credit card out now for the garage

When will all this money on this car stop


Two weeks into a new MOT this happens


Worried its going to cost me a arm and a leg
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Buy yourself an OBDII code reader, find the fault codes, look on the internet to see what they mean, and go from there.

I wouldn't mind betting its a faulty wheel sensor or something equally stupid like a malfunctioning ABS pump.
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Buy yourself an OBDII code reader, find the fault codes, look on the internet to see what they mean, and go from there.

I wouldn't mind betting its a faulty wheel sensor or something equally stupid like a malfunctioning ABS pump.
Just be careful, with my Galaxy the 'fault codes' ended up with 2 new alarm systems replaced including interior sensors, new ECU etc. before the fault was traced to the starter relay.

Luckily under warranty!
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Old 22-07-2009, 5:51 PM
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Had the car looked at my garage today.

No quick fix sadly, the car is booke in to be put on faults computer this weekend.

Very odd to be fair, even the guy said its starnge how the handbrake light is staying on even when disengaged,

I really hope its not the three words...... E....C....U
That has gone wrong.

Will update you all when garage let me know whats come up on the computer

Thanks for your repies so far
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Old 22-07-2009, 6:18 PM
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the handbrake light isnt just for the handbrake, its also means worn brakepads, low brake fluid and will come on with the ABS light if there is a fault

is it ( ! )( P ) or just ( P )
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the handbrake light isnt just for the handbrake, its also means worn brakepads, low brake fluid and will come on with the ABS light if there is a fault

is it ( ! )( P ) or just ( P )

Its marked (p) and (i) in the same light
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Old 22-07-2009, 7:42 PM
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You can usually get loads of good advice on the Mondeo website, www.fordmondeo.org , and there is even a guy on there selling diagnostics tools at very reasonable prices. Well worth a try, anyway. Good luck, hopefully its not too serious.
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Even if its the ECU, ive got a load on the shelf that I normally sell for 20 quid a piece depending on the code on the box, as theres a few different ecu codes for the mondeos.

Im guessing its a faulty ABS sensor or pump. Not sure about the handbrake light - the sensor is on the handle itself so wouldn't be caused by an overheating break disk, so it could be the ECU.

Buy a scanner from eBay, mine cost me 40 quid and ive seen people charge 50 quid just to hook a car up to the computer and turn the ignition on... If your close to Derby or Leeds I'd let you use mine free.

Yes, breaks get hot, theyre trying to stop something that weighs 1.5 tons.... not so sure it should get so hot so quickly under normal driving.. Does the car feel like its lacking any power? Also, are these warning lights in the instrument panel where the speedo/rev counter is ? Or is it the AWS panel to to the left of the clocks near the air vents that also warn you a door is open?

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Even if its the ECU, ive got a load on the shelf that I normally sell for 20 quid a piece depending on the code on the box, as theres a few different ecu codes for the mondeos.

Im guessing its a faulty ABS sensor or pump. Not sure about the handbrake light - the sensor is on the handle itself so wouldn't be caused by an overheating break disk, so it could be the ECU.

Buy a scanner from eBay, mine cost me 40 quid and ive seen people charge 50 quid just to hook a car up to the computer and turn the ignition on... If your close to Derby or Leeds I'd let you use mine free.

Yes, breaks get hot, theyre trying to stop something that weighs 1.5 tons.... not so sure it should get so hot so quickly under normal driving.. Does the car feel like its lacking any power? Also, are these warning lights in the instrument panel where the speedo/rev counter is ? Or is it the AWS panel to to the left of the clocks near the air vents that also warn you a door is open?

Thanks very much mate.

I keep PM later as regards what you said to maybe arrage something with you.

Thank you
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It's a mondeo, so it'll be duff handbrake cables or a sticky piston in a caliper.

New cables and some WB40 will see it right.
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UpdateTook the car to a Ford specialist, they have had a quick look, sounds very ood they say.
They asked to other repair/tech guys there, they have never come across a Mondeo with ABS, Traction AND handbrake light all on at the same time.

Getting a little worried to be fair, thinking maybe ECU related.

Today the car is booked into my local garage to be placed on computer faults reader, been told they don't have a clue either.

I'm thinking it's either the ECU failing or relay gone, could be ABS pump but doubtful to be fai, as the handbrake light is on.


Will update you all after garage has put it on faults today, will be interesting to see what it is.
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Update

Car was put on faults computer, happens to be a ABS wheel sensor.
BUT gets interesting the next bit, look back here next week for a serious warning regarding a national car company who fit tyres etc.
Can't say anything at this moment as in process of compo claim from them.

Watch this space, will explain all next week
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Unhappy ford mondeo 1.8 1991 engine not running smooth

hi can anyone help me find out whats wrong with my 1991 1.8 mondeo,starts ok but seems to be missing,lacks power,fitted new leads,plugs and coilpack but still the same,occ when it isnt running correctly the speedo stops working along with the mileometer,stop switch off start again and speedo works,but car still running rough.
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hi can anyone help me find out whats wrong with my 1991 1.8 mondeo,starts ok but seems to be missing,lacks power,fitted new leads,plugs and coilpack but still the same,occ when it isnt running correctly the speedo stops working along with the mileometer,stop switch off start again and speedo works,but car still running rough.

Could be mixure mate, or perhaps your head might be gone.

Have you checked the water bottle?
Take off the cap and see what colour it is and smell it, if it's oily, likely you have a headgasket gone.


You should start your own thead as likely to get more replies

Goodluck
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