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    pretzelnut
    Hypnotherapy to quit smoking - does it work?
    • #1
    • 16th Jun 09, 12:45 PM
    Hypnotherapy to quit smoking - does it work? 16th Jun 09 at 12:45 PM
    My mum has smoked since she was 13 now she is 49 and desperately wants to quit smoking.

    She has tried everything from sheer willpower to using patches, gum and anything else going. All to no avail.

    She is set in her ways and to break an addiction of such long standing is proving way harder than she ever thought.

    The doctor gave her a leaflet about an NHS hypnotherapist who does private sessions to quit smoking. In this leaflet he claims that 1 session (costing 85) is all that will be needed and she will never smoke again.

    Now normally i would say - what a load of tosh, but he has been reccomended by her GP and has a very good list of credentials. So that suggests to me that he is very credable in what he does.

    So i am asking for your opinions on wheter she should try this route, 85 is a lot of money (yes i know so is smoking) , what if it doesnt work?

    Have any of you have any similar experiences of doing such a thing?

    Would you try this yourself if all other routes had been exhausted?

    I would love it to work for her - to improve her health and finally to have a smoke free mum, im just worried thatshe will pin her hopes on it working, then if it doesnt she will completely give up trying altogether.
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  • maggied
    • #2
    • 16th Jun 09, 12:58 PM
    • #2
    • 16th Jun 09, 12:58 PM
    FWIW I have tried it and it did work - for a while. But like any other method if you don't really want to stop, or your old triggers are still there (partner smoking, passing the shop where you buys your fags on the way to work etc etc) then it won't work unless you have the willpower and blind determination. I have to say the ony thing that's stopped me is wanting to try for a baby....you have to REEEEEEAAALLLY want it!
    Has she tried any of the medical methods? I know there are risks with Zyban and Champix but they do take away the physical urge to smoke.

    Anyway - if she wants to then yes it will - I know people it has worked for.
  • ameliarate
    • #3
    • 16th Jun 09, 1:06 PM
    • #3
    • 16th Jun 09, 1:06 PM
    I don't know about hypnotherapy but I know a few people who have stopped using Champix, though there can be side efffects, as with any drug.

    Your post sounds exactly like me - even the ages - and it really is so hard to stop. As maggied said you have to WANT to stop and even though we known "intellectually" that we should, the addiction stops us from event wanting to.
    We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing.
  • pretzelnut
    • #4
    • 16th Jun 09, 1:16 PM
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    • 16th Jun 09, 1:16 PM
    She doesnt want to try meds as she has had friends who have had bad experiences with them and thathas really out her off.

    I think she's hoping that the hpnotherapist will be able to alter her thought process as that seems to be the one thing she is unable to change herself. 36 years of thinking about smoking is a very long thought process to break.
    Is thankful to those who have shared their
    fortune with those less fortunate
    than themselves - you know who you are!
  • kathyb1230
    • #5
    • 16th Jun 09, 1:43 PM
    • #5
    • 16th Jun 09, 1:43 PM
    [QUOTE=ameliarate;22503999]I don't know about hypnotherapy but I know a few people who have stopped using Champix, though there can be side efffects, as with any drug. QUOTE]

    I can definitely vouch for Champix. I've just finished my 2nd week, and can honestly say that I don't crave nicotine at all, it's just the habit of nipping out for a quick one that I have to break.
    Trust me, I've tried willpower alone, patches, gum and hypnotherapy (for dieting, but still didn't work), and Champix is the first thing that's made me think that I can finally crack it.

    I won't get into the 'how and why' it works, but feel free to pm me if you want any further info. And just to clarify, I'm not in any way affiliated with whoever it is who makes Champix, I'm just a very happy customer.
    Lead me not into temptation - I can find it perfectly well all by myself
  • kindofagilr
    • #6
    • 16th Jun 09, 2:26 PM
    • #6
    • 16th Jun 09, 2:26 PM
    I think she should give it a shot if she has tried everything else

    Look at it this way, if she is a 20 a day smoker, then in 2 weeks of not smoking she will have paid for the hypnotherapy
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  • pretzelnut
    • #7
    • 16th Jun 09, 3:23 PM
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    • 16th Jun 09, 3:23 PM
    Ive give him a ring and he's assured me he's no conman (otherwise he wouldnt have a high paid job witht he NHS).

    So i have arranged an inital free consultation for my mum so she can go through the ins and outs of it without parting with any cash, then when she has a few more facts she can make a decision.

    He seemed really nice so if it works for my mum i might go and see if he can help with building my confidence up.
    Is thankful to those who have shared their
    fortune with those less fortunate
    than themselves - you know who you are!
  • lovethymini
    • #8
    • 16th Jun 09, 3:23 PM
    • #8
    • 16th Jun 09, 3:23 PM
    My old boss had hypnotherapy and it worked.

    She didn't think it worked immediately afterwards, she rang me and had a right old moan about wasting 200, but the next morning, she didn't want a cigarette, and she hasn't touched one since - it's been a good 4 years !!!






  • diable
    • #9
    • 16th Jun 09, 6:08 PM
    • #9
    • 16th Jun 09, 6:08 PM
    Right, where do I start. I was a 40 a day smoker more on weekends and late nights out. I decided it was time to give up and someone gave me a leaflet that the doctor had given them as they where advised to give up due to the thikening of her arteries, I gave the guy a ring had a chat and said I would think about it and read all his info on his website (Max Kirsten) then did nothing about it.

    Over the next 6 to 8 months I kept thinking about it spoke to a few people who wanted to give up and to others that had success stories from their friends and from others that had been hypnotised and had started smoking due to some sort of trauma in their life, kept talking about it kept thinking about it then worked out what I wanted to do and called Max and made an appointment for Monday in the evening as this to me was important as I could go after work then home to bed to rest and for it to be far away from the weekend as possible so that I would not be tempted to smoke.

    The Monday arrived and I was hypnotised and I won't describe the feeling but before I walked out of there I was asked what I wanted to do with my cigarettes that I had left on the desk, they went into the bin, on the way back to the car I felt my lighter in my pocket it was a strange feeling and once in the car it went in to the glove compartment.

    On the Thursday I was in the pub (smoking ban had not been imposed) and had not smoked since my session and to tell you the truth it did not bother me and none of my friends could believe that I had stopped the woman who gave me the leaflet still smokes to this day and I believe in August it will be 4 years and I never feel the urge to smoke at all.

    The only advise I will give it that you want to give up, choose the right time and day to go and then like me once you have had your session get an empty bottle and everyday roll up a 5 note and push it into the bottle and after 3 months smash it open and with the 400 treat yourself to a nice present as this will always help you remember that you gave up smoking.

    HTH

    ps at the time it cost me 195, best 195 I have spent in my life.
  • RedBern
    not a smoker myself - but know a lot of people have given up following the Alan Carr book. From what I gather it explains the crave to smoke and how you can beat it by understanding it. Probably cost 5 to find out whether it is any good?
    Bern
  • Buddingblonde

    The doctor gave her a leaflet about an NHS hypnotherapist who does private sessions to quit smoking. In this leaflet he claims that 1 session (costing 85) is all that will be needed and she will never smoke again.

    If this was the case then there would be no smokers left in the NHS! There would be no NRT and need for expensive drugs. All the studies that have been done on hypnosis over the years show that is no more successful that will power alone. You still have to go through drug withdrawal (which can be pretty unpleasant) and also the habits and association stuff.

    I have 14 years of smoking cessation experience (I have been an addiction counsellor up until recently).

    The best way to stop smoking is Champix - the results compaired to everything else are way beyond Zyban and NRT. If not suitable then NRT is an option but the problem with most smokers on nrt is that they do not take enough of it for long enough. Most people should be using 2 products (those smoking 20 a day+)

    The problem for most smokers isn't the drug addiction but the habits of smoking - until they address the reasons why they smoke they will not succeed.

    The other thing I would say is that most smokers are completely unrealistic about stopping smoking - it is something that will take most smokers 6 months to a year to truly get mentally into the habit of being a non smoker (note I said non smoker rather than ex smoker). Those who cannot accept not smoking as a long term goal will not stop.

    I am more than happy to talk to anyone who wants to pm me about smoking and stopping. I might have retired from it professionally but I am more than happy to spread the knowledge and experience.

    Ax

    PS and before anyone asks I am an ex smoker - I used to smoke 40 a day and I gave up years ago without anything or anyone - just got fed up of all my money going on it.
  • Lilith1980
    I tried the Paul McKenna CD about 10 years ago but you had to keep listening to it every day really. I didn't smoke for the first day but went back on the ciggies the day after :rolleyes:

    At age 23 I gave up and this lasted for 2 years but then stupidly, I thought I could have the odd one when I went out....quickly fell back into the habit.

    I have now been "smoke free" for 4 weeks, no patches nothing and I feel great. I want to start looking after my body and I feel so good to not have to rely on those things. I don't tire so easily at the gym, I do't smell and I have a little extra in my bank account each month. Like others have said, you have to really want to stop smoking.

    Good luck
    I want to be debt free within the next year and then start saving a deposit for a house
  • diable
    The doctor gave her a leaflet about an NHS hypnotherapist who does private sessions to quit smoking. In this leaflet he claims that 1 session (costing 85) is all that will be needed and she will never smoke again.

    If this was the case then there would be no smokers left in the NHS! There would be no NRT and need for expensive drugs. All the studies that have been done on hypnosis over the years show that is no more successful that will power alone. You still have to go through drug withdrawal (which can be pretty unpleasant) and also the habits and association stuff.

    I have 14 years of smoking cessation experience (I have been an addiction counsellor up until recently).

    The best way to stop smoking is Champix - the results compaired to everything else are way beyond Zyban and NRT. If not suitable then NRT is an option but the problem with most smokers on nrt is that they do not take enough of it for long enough. Most people should be using 2 products (those smoking 20 a day+)

    The problem for most smokers isn't the drug addiction but the habits of smoking - until they address the reasons why they smoke they will not succeed.

    The other thing I would say is that most smokers are completely unrealistic about stopping smoking - it is something that will take most smokers 6 months to a year to truly get mentally into the habit of being a non smoker (note I said non smoker rather than ex smoker). Those who cannot accept not smoking as a long term goal will not stop.

    I am more than happy to talk to anyone who wants to pm me about smoking and stopping. I might have retired from it professionally but I am more than happy to spread the knowledge and experience.

    Ax

    PS and before anyone asks I am an ex smoker - I used to smoke 40 a day and I gave up years ago without anything or anyone - just got fed up of all my money going on it.
    Originally posted by Buddingblonde
    I agree with what you are saying but no all things are suitable for everyone. With hypnotherapy you have to be willing and wanting to give up and your mind must be open to the neurological help/advice/reprogramming it receives.

    I can only tell you what happened to me and that was that once I left my session then I had zero cravings and zero habits and this is the person who smoked 6 cigarettes before he got to work and for me then it was a 15 min car journey.

    I took that route as I tried with willpower alone then patches over the years I loved smoking but at 40 it was time to give up and this was my last chance and I took the risk.

    If you really want to give up then with your chosen method you should be able to but the leaflet if it actually is worded as quoted is miss leading as nothing is guaranteed to make you give up smoking apart from dropping dead.

    Whichever method anyone chooses then the best of luck.
  • pretzelnut
    That is kinda how i feel.

    If it worked so well then surely the NHS would offer it to everyone and therefore there would be NO need for patches, etc etc.

    I suppose thats just the sceptic in me, but when you have tried everything and another opportunity arises to try something else then i cant see the harm in a no obligation talk about it, hence why I (the sensible - i can see straight through your bull Sh!t one) will be going with my mum.

    But she does believe in such things as phyic's and the such so maybe this is more her. As opposed to more common methods like patches.

    I value all you ropinions, hence why i started the thread and all advice and info will and has been taken on board.
    Is thankful to those who have shared their
    fortune with those less fortunate
    than themselves - you know who you are!
  • diable
    That is kinda how i feel.

    If it worked so well then surely the NHS would offer it to everyone and therefore there would be NO need for patches, etc etc.

    I suppose thats just the sceptic in me, but when you have tried everything and another opportunity arises to try something else then i cant see the harm in a no obligation talk about it, hence why I (the sensible - i can see straight through your bull Sh!t one) will be going with my mum.

    But she does believe in such things as phyic's and the such so maybe this is more her. As opposed to more common methods like patches.

    I value all you ropinions, hence why i started the thread and all advice and info will and has been taken on board.
    Originally posted by princesswoo
    The government doesn't want to cure everyone as if a lot of people die before retiring then it is money saved that is spent elsewhere.

    Best of luck.
  • pretzelnut
    yeah i wonder what they'll sting my mum for when she stops buying her 40 fags a day - they'll have to get that tax back somehow.
    Is thankful to those who have shared their
    fortune with those less fortunate
    than themselves - you know who you are!
  • jenhug
    I am having hypno for some other issues, its working really well and this is the girl that "has no willpower!" It does work, more so if you want it to I think, I know a couple of people that had hypno for smoking and they stopped symptom free!
  • 3onitsway
    Me, OH and MIL went a couple of years ago, to a hypnotherapist, recommended by MIL's gp.
    MIL smoked two hours after the session, Me and OH lasted about 5 hours! So, for us, no.

    I gave up as soon as I found out I was pregnant (again). I also gave up with my first two pregnancies, after they were born, I thought I could have the odd one on nights out/socially, this then ended up back to 10 a day! I don't know whether the thought that I was giving up for my baby did it for me.

    MIL has just completed a course of Champix and has nothing but praise for it. She's tried everthing over the years, and this is the only thing that has worked. I think she's done about 10 weeks now, and says she honestly doesn't want one.
  • l4ne2008
    Princesswoo I've been having hypnotherapy for confidence building, it has definitely helped. It works better if you really want to change & believe that hypnosis works. My aunty used it for smoking and she has not smoked for 4 years.
  • jamtart6
    some people are more susceptible to being hypnotised than others, so it isn't foolproof . They better your imagination, the more susceptible you are likely to be. I'd say it was money well spent as anything would be worth a go.

    Being Thrifty Gifty again this year


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