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Cost of new bathroom installation - is this fair?
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Old 31-03-2006, 12:30 PM
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Default Cost of new bathroom installation - is this fair?

Hi, I am having a new bathroom suite installed and I have a quote for the work. Basically, the quote is for ripping out the existing tiles and bath/toilet/sink and installing a new 3pc bathroom suite, tiling the floor and part of the wall and repainting the whole area.

The full quote is:

Remove old suite and tiles
Plaster all walls to make good
fit new bath and taps
fit new toilet and cistern
fit new basin and taps
fit new built in thermostatic shower
fit new shower screen
fit new chrome towel rail
Fit marine plywood to floor and screw at 150mm centres with stainless screws
Tile floor and walls around bath
Decorate room in colour of your choice

And the quote: £4,850!

I live in NW London if this makes a difference. Anyone have a view as to whether this is reasonable? Thanks


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Old 01-04-2006, 12:08 PM
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Hi Zareer
What items are you suppling. ie suite, tiles, shower, shower screen etc?

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Does this include VAT?
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Hi andy, I am supplying all the items - tiles, suite, everything. he quoted an additional 1,600 for supplying them all, which I thought was ridiculous.

beverlyhills, yes the price does include VAT.
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So he's a regesterd electrian is he? and how big (approx) is the room, that can make a difference to the price.
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I live in Lancashire. I am having a new en-suite fit next week. I am supplying everything. He has recently fit a boiler for us and charged the same as the other 3 quotes we got so I assume that he is average for this area.

To fit new toilet, shower base, shower, (plus new shower in main bathroom) shower door, sink with vanity unit, extractor fan and to rip out the old suite plus supply skip he is charging 1600.

Tiler is going to tile three walls of the shower and half way up the other two walls for 500. 11 1/2 square metre of tiles if that is any help for size. Supplying everything but the tiles.

Plasterer to skim walls, knock off old tiles and put up new plaster board in the shower is charging about 200. Not got his exact price yet. Just an estimate.

This does not include painting.

Your price does sound very expensive.
Wendy

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Old 01-04-2006, 2:26 PM
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I'd seriously get another 2 quotes... sounds like a lorra lorra money to me
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Hi Zareer
I would charge a maximum of 2500.00 based on what youl've told us. Maybe up to 3000.00 where you are. Definately get some more quotes. The whole job shouldnt take more than 2 weeks also.

Hope that helps
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So he's a regesterd electrian is he? and how big (approx) is the room, that can make a difference to the price.
Why would he want or need to be a registered electrician ???


It does sound very very expensive tho
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It does seem a bit over the top, even for North London prices.
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Hi Raymond
He will need to be a registered electrician because bathrooms and kitchens are defined as special locations by the NICEIC and can only have electrics done in them by an NICEIC registered sparks or a sparks holding the new Part P qualification.
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Sounds very expensive _ I live in South East london and have been quoted 2000 plus VAT and that included installing fitted furniture - get some more quotes it really does make a difference. HTH
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He will need to be a registered electrician because bathrooms and kitchens are defined as special locations by the NICEIC and can only have electrics done in them by an NICEIC registered sparks or a sparks holding the new Part P qualification.
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You are correct, but who mentioned anything about electrical work
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The job, as far as i can tell, is removing a bathroom suite and installing new with the addition of a thermostatic shower. The shower will need plumbing in and i am ,rightly or wrongly, going to assume that there will be some degree of plumbing pipework required for the new suite configerations. Therefore, all the pipework will need bonding and cross bonding in accordance with chapter 5 article 4.3 of the 16th edition of the IEE regs. Therefore he will need to be a qualified electrician.
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Have you asked individual tradesmen to quote on the work?

Plumbers dont tile - sparks dont lay floors??

Sounds to me as if you are getting a builder who will 'sub out' the work, adding his (large) bit on for the trouble.

You will need a plasterer who would more than likely remove the tiles for you.

A plumber for the fittings Inc Shower and he will probably know someone in the electrical trade to wire it up.

Finally you need a tiler for the floor and walls, although often they can be separate tiling jobs.

Sound to me like you are after the convenience of paying one man and if so you pay through your nostrils.

I doubt if you would find one man qualified enough to do all of the work.
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The job, as far as i can tell, is removing a bathroom suite and installing new with the addition of a thermostatic shower. The shower will need plumbing in and i am ,rightly or wrongly, going to assume that there will be some degree of plumbing pipework required for the new suite configerations. Therefore, all the pipework will need bonding and cross bonding in accordance with chapter 5 article 4.3 of the 16th edition of the IEE regs. Therefore he will need to be a qualified electrician.
Andy
You are right and wrong. To install or updrade equipotential bonding does not require a qualified electrician as long as it meets the requirements of Part P and is notified. Also a qualified electrician is not necessarily registered for self certification under Part P.

Besides that, you are assuming the thermostatic shower will not be part of the mixer which would of course be connected to the existing pipes which may or may not have been bonded previously.

In fact, it is debatable as to whether fitting a seperate shower to a bathroom without any bonding (of which there are many done every year, and most do not satisfy current regs to begin with) requires this to be done and I would bet that not many do.

I recently bought a property with gas heating and before completion my solicitor asked for a retrospective building control cert for the installation as this did not exist. Guess what ... when I checked there was NO bonding to ANY pipes, no RCD, ancient wiring with no earth worth talking about and they issued a cert !! No problem really as I needed to rewire the house completely anyway so it was easy to do it right.

Anyway, adding a couple of bits of wire isnt going to add much to the price which was the original question
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i could come to n london (im the tiler) with
friend(corgi reg plumber)
supply the lot tiles, suite, labour, fitting, for 4800 !
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Was about to say the same thing tilemeister.I reckon at them prices i could stay in a nice hotel and make a holiday of it.
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Hey Tilemeister and Woodbutcher. I'll meet you there and we'll knock it out over the weekend between us at that price!!!

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Good morning: I do know a CORGI registered plumber who has his Part P, is an excellent tiler and can do general building works as well...but I am biased as he has been my partner for 7 years now. We have just moved to East Kent after relocating from the south coast (renovated our home there, sold it online and used an online conveyancer as well.. we like a bargain!)

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