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    neil4842
    help my employer messing me around
    • #1
    • 17th Mar 06, 3:27 PM
    help my employer messing me around 17th Mar 06 at 3:27 PM
    Can anyone help ive tried everything and got nowhere i got radial tunnel syndrome and went off sick for 5 months and then returned to work on modified duties. When i went back to work i was sent to see the company specialist who told me that i couldnt do my job but i could do another job inside the company subject to a few conditions. I kept asking about this other job and just got messed around all the time and fobed off. I was back in work for 4 months when my specialist sent me to have the operation for radial tunnel and i was off work for a further 5 weeks. When i returned i was sent to see the company doctor and they said that they where going to write for my medical reports and letters of the doctor and specialist and it will take a month for them now its been a month and a half and i phoned the company doctor up and they said that they have received the letter from my specialist but are awaiting for the letter of my doctor. They told me that the specialist had said in the letter that i couldnt use vibratory tools anymore, which means that i can not do my job but could do the other job inside the company. Everytime i ask the union for help they just fob me off and are not interested what can i do help please. I am still on modified duties but i dont know if i will have a job.
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  • raymond
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    • 17th Mar 06, 3:34 PM
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    • 17th Mar 06, 3:34 PM
    What do you expect them to do?

    If they gave you a job that even remotely caused you to have pain you would take them to the cleaners, so they are quite rightly doing everything by the book.
  • neil4842
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    • 17th Mar 06, 4:01 PM
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    • 17th Mar 06, 4:01 PM
    but this other job is totaly different and it wouldnt cause me to have the pain that i was previously in. They have told me that i could have this other job and then keep messing me about
  • MTM
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    • 17th Mar 06, 4:06 PM
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    • 17th Mar 06, 4:06 PM
    Try talking to ACAS
    08457 474747

    http://www.acas.org.uk/
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    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 17th Mar 06, 5:14 PM
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    ohreally
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    • 17th Mar 06, 5:14 PM
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    • 17th Mar 06, 5:14 PM
    Your employer should consider making reasonable ajustments - they appear to have done this.
    They should also consult with yourself and occupational health to find a way to progress, again the appear to have done this. Have they risk assesed the jobs they are giving you? What have you asked your union to do that they haven't done?
    Imagination is a mental faculty that serves as a coping mechanism for those who can't or won't accept reality - unicorns and dragons and wives who don't nag, are all figments of the "imagination".
  • neil4842
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    • 18th Mar 06, 4:55 PM
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    • 18th Mar 06, 4:55 PM
    cheers for the replys. The union wont get involved unless they sack me or put me on the sick and work are not interested in speaking to me about whats going to happen they have been saying for 7 months that i will be having a test to see if i can go on the other job but they keep saying this month ever month for 7 months now.
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 18th Mar 06, 7:34 PM
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    • 18th Mar 06, 7:34 PM
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    • 18th Mar 06, 7:34 PM
    The union wont get involved unless they sack me or put me on the sick
    by neil4842
    When you say the union wont get involved, is this one steward that is reluctant to assist? Have you contacted the branch to ask for an explanation for their lack of response?
  • neil4842
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    • 18th Mar 06, 8:41 PM
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    • 18th Mar 06, 8:41 PM
    yes this is the steward
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 18th Mar 06, 9:08 PM
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    • 18th Mar 06, 9:08 PM
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    • 18th Mar 06, 9:08 PM
    yes this is the steward
    by neil4842
    Ask him to clarify the situation as to why he appears unable to offer assistance.As a point of interest what union do you belong to.
  • neil4842
    its the GMB
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 18th Mar 06, 9:57 PM
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    ohreally
    Have you contacted your branch secretary regarding this?
    Imagination is a mental faculty that serves as a coping mechanism for those who can't or won't accept reality - unicorns and dragons and wives who don't nag, are all figments of the "imagination".
  • neil4842
    no i thought he would say the same as the shop steward
  • McDuck
    Obvious question, but what do you want them to do?
  • neil4842
    I want them to sort out the other job for me as when i ask about it they fob me off as its the company against me. With the union behind me they shouldnt be able to fob me off. The other problem is i have been told that in the past they have sacked people because they cant do there job and i dont want this to happen. I have wasted 7 months in there now doing a job which is made up of all the worst jobs that the others wont do. Its like being a gofer
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 21st Mar 06, 10:56 PM
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    ohreally
    The other problem is i have been told that in the past they have sacked people because they cant do there job
    by neil4842
    This may be attributed to breach of contract relating to capability issues. You may find it's likely that employees who have had employment terminated on capability grounds have either had relatively short service or they aren't members of an occupational pension scheme. I'd suggest approaching the GMB again and ask for assistance in reaching a mutually agreeable resolution to the situation.One issue with continuing as you are is that of acceptance,in fact don't be surprised if your employer argues that as you've been carrying out your current role for so long that you can reasonably be seen as excepting their adjustments.You need to have a plan of action and present a statement of case to support what you expect management to reach agreement on.If you sit back and do nothing management are unlikely progress with further adjustments.
    Last edited by ohreally; 21-03-2006 at 10:58 PM.
    Imagination is a mental faculty that serves as a coping mechanism for those who can't or won't accept reality - unicorns and dragons and wives who don't nag, are all figments of the "imagination".
  • THE LONE RANGER
    Yes You Need To Approach Gmb Direct ,you Seem To Have An Idle Or Incompetant Steward There For He Is Not Worth Wasting Your Time With You Must Not Just Sit Back Or You Will Find Yourself Worked Out Of The Company Via The Side Door Get Something Sorted And Say Leaving It As It Is ,is In Itself Causing You Stress
    • jobbingmusician
    • By jobbingmusician 22nd Mar 06, 10:50 AM
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    jobbingmusician
    I have a sneaking feeling that your employer may be worried because you have the option of taking them to court and claiming that your carpal tunnel problems/radial problems are caused by your job. Do you have any legal cover with your union? This is likely to be totally separate from your usual union adviser. I suggest you ring the union and ask them this, and (if so) then ring your legal adviser and ask if you have a claim against your employer for developing the condition in the first place!

    (I am not usually this militant, but know there are lots of cases of people developing neurological damage and white finger from using vibrating machinery. If you pursue a claim you could be helping others, and if your union will back you it may be at no risk to you!)
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  • neil4842
    cheers for the replys i have got the legal cover but im waiting to get my job sorted before i try and claim and i think that i will go over my stewards head and get someone to help me with my employment side of the problem.
  • neil4842
    Been talking to my manager today and he has said that he will try and find out whats going on and i said to him whats the options and he said either the other job they where offering or being made redundant
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 24th Mar 06, 10:00 PM
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    ohreally
    i said to him whats the options and he said either the other job they where offering or being made redundant
    by neil4842
    There may be other options such as ill health retirement,retraining,progressing with making adjustments to your current role etc etc. Redundancy may not be a wise move from your employers perspective as it's the job which is redundant not the post holder.Do they intend to offer you redundancy then place another employee into the role?
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