Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Work & Benefits > Employment, Jobseeking & Training > help my employer messing me around (Page 1)

IMPORTANT! This is MoneySavingExpert's open forum - anyone can post

Please exercise caution & report any spam, illegal, offensive, racist, libellous post to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com

  • Be nice to all MoneySavers
  • All the best tips go in the MoneySavingExpert weekly email

    Plus all the new guides, deals & loopholes

  • No spam/referral links
or Login with Facebook
help my employer messing me around
Closed Thread
Views: 1,383
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
# 1
neil4842
Old 17-03-2006, 3:27 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default help my employer messing me around

Can anyone help ive tried everything and got nowhere i got radial tunnel syndrome and went off sick for 5 months and then returned to work on modified duties. When i went back to work i was sent to see the company specialist who told me that i couldnt do my job but i could do another job inside the company subject to a few conditions. I kept asking about this other job and just got messed around all the time and fobed off. I was back in work for 4 months when my specialist sent me to have the operation for radial tunnel and i was off work for a further 5 weeks. When i returned i was sent to see the company doctor and they said that they where going to write for my medical reports and letters of the doctor and specialist and it will take a month for them now its been a month and a half and i phoned the company doctor up and they said that they have received the letter from my specialist but are awaiting for the letter of my doctor. They told me that the specialist had said in the letter that i couldnt use vibratory tools anymore, which means that i can not do my job but could do the other job inside the company. Everytime i ask the union for help they just fob me off and are not interested what can i do help please. I am still on modified duties but i dont know if i will have a job.
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 2
raymond
Old 17-03-2006, 3:34 PM
MoneySaving Stalwart
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 438
Default

What do you expect them to do?

If they gave you a job that even remotely caused you to have pain you would take them to the cleaners, so they are quite rightly doing everything by the book.
raymond is offline
Report Post
# 3
neil4842
Old 17-03-2006, 4:01 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

but this other job is totaly different and it wouldnt cause me to have the pain that i was previously in. They have told me that i could have this other job and then keep messing me about
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 4
MTM
Old 17-03-2006, 4:06 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gateshead
Posts: 4,085
Send a message via MSN to MTM
Default

Try talking to ACAS
08457 474747

http://www.acas.org.uk/
I no longer have Blonde or Senior moments... these are now CRAFT moments
Cant Remember A F**king Thing
MTM is offline
Report Post
# 5
ohreally
Old 17-03-2006, 5:14 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,354
Default

Your employer should consider making reasonable ajustments - they appear to have done this.
They should also consult with yourself and occupational health to find a way to progress, again the appear to have done this. Have they risk assesed the jobs they are giving you? What have you asked your union to do that they haven't done?
Imagination is a mental faculty that serves as a coping mechanism for those who can't or won't accept reality - unicorns and dragons and wives who don't nag, are all figments of the "imagination".
ohreally is offline
Report Post
# 6
neil4842
Old 18-03-2006, 4:55 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

cheers for the replys. The union wont get involved unless they sack me or put me on the sick and work are not interested in speaking to me about whats going to happen they have been saying for 7 months that i will be having a test to see if i can go on the other job but they keep saying this month ever month for 7 months now.
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 7
ohreally
Old 18-03-2006, 7:34 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,354
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neil4842
The union wont get involved unless they sack me or put me on the sick
When you say the union wont get involved, is this one steward that is reluctant to assist? Have you contacted the branch to ask for an explanation for their lack of response?
ohreally is offline
Report Post
# 8
neil4842
Old 18-03-2006, 8:41 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

yes this is the steward
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 9
ohreally
Old 18-03-2006, 9:08 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,354
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neil4842
yes this is the steward
Ask him to clarify the situation as to why he appears unable to offer assistance.As a point of interest what union do you belong to.
ohreally is offline
Report Post
# 10
neil4842
Old 18-03-2006, 9:33 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

its the GMB
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 11
ohreally
Old 18-03-2006, 9:57 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,354
Default

Have you contacted your branch secretary regarding this?
Imagination is a mental faculty that serves as a coping mechanism for those who can't or won't accept reality - unicorns and dragons and wives who don't nag, are all figments of the "imagination".
ohreally is offline
Report Post
# 12
neil4842
Old 18-03-2006, 9:59 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

no i thought he would say the same as the shop steward
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 13
McDuck
Old 21-03-2006, 7:38 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 114
Default

Obvious question, but what do you want them to do?
McDuck is offline
Report Post
# 14
neil4842
Old 21-03-2006, 10:20 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

I want them to sort out the other job for me as when i ask about it they fob me off as its the company against me. With the union behind me they shouldnt be able to fob me off. The other problem is i have been told that in the past they have sacked people because they cant do there job and i dont want this to happen. I have wasted 7 months in there now doing a job which is made up of all the worst jobs that the others wont do. Its like being a gofer
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 15
ohreally
Old 21-03-2006, 10:56 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,354
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neil4842
The other problem is i have been told that in the past they have sacked people because they cant do there job
This may be attributed to breach of contract relating to capability issues. You may find it's likely that employees who have had employment terminated on capability grounds have either had relatively short service or they aren't members of an occupational pension scheme. I'd suggest approaching the GMB again and ask for assistance in reaching a mutually agreeable resolution to the situation.One issue with continuing as you are is that of acceptance,in fact don't be surprised if your employer argues that as you've been carrying out your current role for so long that you can reasonably be seen as excepting their adjustments.You need to have a plan of action and present a statement of case to support what you expect management to reach agreement on.If you sit back and do nothing management are unlikely progress with further adjustments.
Imagination is a mental faculty that serves as a coping mechanism for those who can't or won't accept reality - unicorns and dragons and wives who don't nag, are all figments of the "imagination".

Last edited by ohreally; 21-03-2006 at 10:58 PM.
ohreally is offline
Report Post
# 16
THE LONE RANGER
Old 22-03-2006, 8:54 AM
Serious MoneySaving Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: SHROPSHIRE
Posts: 1,500
Default

Yes You Need To Approach Gmb Direct ,you Seem To Have An Idle Or Incompetant Steward There For He Is Not Worth Wasting Your Time With You Must Not Just Sit Back Or You Will Find Yourself Worked Out Of The Company Via The Side Door Get Something Sorted And Say Leaving It As It Is ,is In Itself Causing You Stress
THE LONE RANGER is offline
Report Post
# 17
jobbingmusician
Old 22-03-2006, 10:50 AM
Deliciously Dedicated Diehard MoneySaving Devotee
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 15,625
Default

I have a sneaking feeling that your employer may be worried because you have the option of taking them to court and claiming that your carpal tunnel problems/radial problems are caused by your job. Do you have any legal cover with your union? This is likely to be totally separate from your usual union adviser. I suggest you ring the union and ask them this, and (if so) then ring your legal adviser and ask if you have a claim against your employer for developing the condition in the first place!

(I am not usually this militant, but know there are lots of cases of people developing neurological damage and white finger from using vibrating machinery. If you pursue a claim you could be helping others, and if your union will back you it may be at no risk to you!)
I'm the Board Guide on the Matched Betting; Referrers and Jobseeking & Trainingboards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge posts there. Board guides are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.

jobbingmusician is online now
Report Post
# 18
neil4842
Old 22-03-2006, 2:40 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

cheers for the replys i have got the legal cover but im waiting to get my job sorted before i try and claim and i think that i will go over my stewards head and get someone to help me with my employment side of the problem.
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 19
neil4842
Old 24-03-2006, 9:05 PM
MoneySaving Convert
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 119
Default

Been talking to my manager today and he has said that he will try and find out whats going on and i said to him whats the options and he said either the other job they where offering or being made redundant
neil4842 is offline
Report Post
# 20
ohreally
Old 24-03-2006, 10:00 PM
Fantastically Fervent MoneySaving Super Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,354
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neil4842
i said to him whats the options and he said either the other job they where offering or being made redundant
There may be other options such as ill health retirement,retraining,progressing with making adjustments to your current role etc etc. Redundancy may not be a wise move from your employers perspective as it's the job which is redundant not the post holder.Do they intend to offer you redundancy then place another employee into the role?
ohreally is offline
Report Post
Closed Thread

Bookmarks
 
 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 Forum Jump  

Contact Us - MoneySavingExpert.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All times are GMT. The time now is 2:11 PM.

 Forum Jump  

Free MoneySaving Email

Top deals: Week of 29 October 2014

Get all this & more in MoneySavingExpert's weekly email full of guides, vouchers and Deals

GET THIS FREE WEEKLY EMAIL Full of deals, guides & it's spam free

Latest News & Blogs

Martin's Twitter Feed

profile

Cheap Travel Money

Find the best online rate for holiday cash with MSE's TravelMoneyMax.

Find the best online rate for your holiday cash with MoneySavingExpert's TravelMoneyMax.

TuneChecker Top Albums

  • VARIOUS ARTISTSBBC RADIO 1'S LIVE LOUNGE 2014
  • TAYLOR SWIFT1989 (DELUXE)
  • ED SHEERANX (DELUXE EDITION)

MSE's Twitter Feed

profile
Always remember anyone can post on the MSE forums, so it can be very different from our opinion.
We use Skimlinks and other affiliated links in some of our boards, for some of our users.