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  • M4RKM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 10:45 AM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 10:45 AM
    This bit used to be my signature, but I'll paste it here for easy reference.

    I've travelled to NYC, 11 times already, and my 12th is coming up, since 2001, prices have dropped, gone up, and dropped again, and gone up again.. it is always a moving market, however, this is my opinion only on what kind of price people should be paying for a DIRECT flight from either Manchester, or the London airports.


    Direct Flight

    000 - 300 = 5*
    300 - 350 = 4
    350 - 400 = 3*
    400 - 450 = 2*
    450 - 500 = 1*
    Over 500 = 0*

    Over 500 for a return flight isn't money saving.

    Ideally, i'd love to say, if you see a flight UNDER 250, to book it straight away. There are some bargains to be had.

    When it comes to flights that invlove one change, knock 50 off each of the price bandings, and then again you have a good price

    However, when posting this, I feel that the days of sub 200 flights are now gone!

    ------------

    Time for some hints and tips.

    1 - The centre of New York is Manhattan, in a tourist sense.
    2 - You can't have a hotel close to everything, as Manhattan is 2.5 miles wide and 13.5 miles long. If you're near Central Park, you're not near the Staten Island Ferry
    3 - New York is safe. it isn't like the movies or CSI:NY. It is the safest big city in the USA, and i think the 3rd Safest in cities over 100,000 people.
    4 - The Subway is easy to use and safe, and runs 24 hours a day.
    5 - the cheapest way to get from the airport is to walk, However, it is miles away, so public transport is the second cheapest..
    6 - Times Square is a tourist attraction, not the place to be!

    7 - Apartment Rentals are illegal in New York City for stays under 30 days...

    Here is some more information on the rather delicate subject of point 7 - Apartment Rentals

    There is a lot of information over on TripAdvisor, much more than I can be bothered going through tonight, so I'd suggest people take a look over there if you don't believe what I say. However, I will go through this, logically.

    99% of apartments are not "Transient" accommodation in NYC, and therefore illegal. There have been recent events that illegal hostels and hotels have been closed down, and hundreds of tourists, who just book wherever is cheap, end up on the street.

    Seriously, If it ain't a scam, it'll be illegal. There are very few legal apartment rentals for under 30 days in New York City.

    Feel free to search the address on http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/html/bis/bis.shtml

    if it doesn't come up as a

    Department of Finance Building Classification: H9-HOTELS

    on the first page, then it isn't the right classification for a transient hotel. That is one quick check, the next one is to check the certificate of occupancy, Click on View Certificates of Occupancy, and then choose one from the list. I pick a known legal hotel, and it comes up as a J-1 Transient Hotel. Now, I've picked a known illegal apartment rental, and the certificate of occupancy states, 2 Family Dwelling and Accessory Office.

    So, if you are a not living there permanently, within a unit that is designed for a family, (and obviously that is not the case, because it has been illegally converted to 3 (three) apartments), then it is illegal, but the many websites don't give a crap what they have on their site, because they are getting their commission. There is no point asking them, they don't vet, or are required to vet what goes on the site.

    If you decide to use one then you are really depriving someone living in NYC in an affordable room, just because you don't want to stay in a hotel, which is what they are designed for. Hotels, transients, apartments, residents.

    If you want the apartment style, so you can cook a meal, have a living area etc etc, then choose a suitehotel, which there are a number of, Eastgate Tower in Midtown Manhattan is reasonable, and you can get a 1 bed studio, 1 bed suite, or a 2 bed suite etc etc. This is the closest you'll get to staying at an apartment in NYC legally.
    Last edited by M4RKM; 06-12-2009 at 11:29 PM.
  • M4RKM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 10:46 AM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 10:46 AM
    Thought I'd share this link with you all

    http://newyorkdailyphoto.blogspot.com/
    Last edited by M4RKM; 25-04-2009 at 9:24 AM.
  • HGLTsuperstar
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    • 9th Jan 09, 1:45 PM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 1:45 PM
    Well, I know that Marky's expert advice advocates the three month rule but I am going to go against that in this instance for two reasons - one is that I think you have a great price there for PE and two because the M&M fares can sell out.

    I am by no means an expert but just my opinion, FWIW.

    I can't help with the hotel question as I don't know it (or that area) hugely well, sorry!

    What a fab place to spend your 30th
    Originally posted by KarenG
    I know its a fab price but, on closer look, its for the current offer for travel 1-30 Sep so, get rubbing your crystal ball people, what's the likelihood of a similar sale for dates at the start of December. I'm imagining the high Xmas rates kick in probably the following week so here's hoping?
  • HGLTsuperstar
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    • 9th Jan 09, 1:51 PM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 1:51 PM
    OK so going to annoy everyone and repost on this new thread so I don't get lost in it.
    Its official as of today that I'm going (for the first time) to NYC for my 30th!!!
    Now its not until December but I'm allowed to be excited, and also want to make it perfect so getting very organised!
    There will therefore be more posts over the coming months but here's my opener:
    Flight plan is Virgin PE as its my bday so want a bit more style! (using the miles + money deal - currently around 460 each - but dont know when is best to book, given the credit crunch and hoping prices will fall but if more airlines go bust so there's less competition...
    Was going to mention that I'm the birthday girl at check-in/on booking - anyone know of any extra treats from Mr B's team?
    And when is best time to book?
    Now hotel wise it HAS TO BE Central Park (as bizarre but want to go for a jog in Central Park on bday morning - then make up the "lost calories" at the Magnolia bakery but I digress...)
    Quick hunt about on hotelconxions came up with Astor on the Park, Central Park West, 3* and seems to tick all our boxes for $551 for the 3 nights (Fri, Sat, Sun) - I thought it was too early to book but am tempted to snap this up pronto? Is it likely I could get a better deal nearer the time or by ringing the hotel directly (i.e. early bird discount?). Also anyone know about this particular hotel or any overlooking the park?
    BTW Dates are Out Friday 4th Dec Back Monday 7th (my bday)

    PS the M+M fare I see is an offer for travel in Sept so obviously no good but what is the likelihood of a Virgin/BA price war for the first week of December - guessing that the high Xmas season is probably from the following week???

    But really want to know about this hotel ASAP please
  • M4RKM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 2:04 PM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 2:04 PM
    people start thinking about going to NYC for christmas anytime from october onwards.

    From this point on, the airfares suprisingly are higher, right from the beginning of november, until the 1st week of jan

    personally, i know i love the 3 month rule, (flying march 5th, booked hotel Jan 1st, Booked Flight Fri 9th Jan), it occasionally doesn't apply
    • becky_rtw
    • By becky_rtw 9th Jan 09, 3:57 PM
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    becky_rtw
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    • 9th Jan 09, 3:57 PM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 3:57 PM
    Ooo I also meant to say - if you're into sweets or have kids to buy for when in NY go to Dylans Candy Bar - WOW - I was sugared up for about three days after my visit but be warned I spent $25 in there and didnt even buy much

    And LES - please I might be moneysaving, but I'm still a park princess!
    Love running, love parkrun - simples!
  • M4RKM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 5:25 PM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 5:25 PM
    becky.. if we were ever in NYC at the same time, we'd never bump into each other..

    LES FTW!
    • becky_rtw
    • By becky_rtw 9th Jan 09, 5:39 PM
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    becky_rtw
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    • 9th Jan 09, 5:39 PM
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    • 9th Jan 09, 5:39 PM
    Well the good news Mark is - I love NY so much - I'm already thinking about buying some flights in the BA sale for later in the year
    Love running, love parkrun - simples!
    • greenface
    • By greenface 9th Jan 09, 6:28 PM
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    greenface
    greenface clocking on into new thread subs paid cheques in the post ready to serve.
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  • M4RKM
    yeah.. maybe next time you go you'll see that LES is much better than UES...
    *laughs*

    yeah ok.. maybe never
    • becky_rtw
    • By becky_rtw 9th Jan 09, 7:54 PM
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    becky_rtw
    Maybe not - but at least we're both east siders

    The music venues look cool around LES though - I didnt do much clubbing so thats a target for next time!
    Love running, love parkrun - simples!
    • melissa'smoney
    • By melissa'smoney 9th Jan 09, 9:32 PM
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    melissa'smoney
    Ideas of Valentine's Day in New York
    hi all

    going to NY for a week on the 13th and we'll be there for Valentine's day wondering if anyone has any ideas on what we could do to make it abit special, nice resturants, somethnig different etc, as a NY newbie i don't know what's around.
    I did try and book the Two times (revolving) at the Marriott Times Square but its fully booked all day for the 14th so ive booked the 15th instead.

    Ideas would be welcome xx

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  • LeedsBurlesque
    Restaurant week happening from 18th Jan-30th Jan. http://nycgo.com/ $24 dollars for lunches and $34 for nice dinners.

    Kerrrching!
  • M4RKM
    whatever happened to restaurant week price matching the year??

    it should be $20.09 for the meal! bah.. inflation, stupid stupid inflation

    M

    *my head is hurting*
  • LeedsBurlesque
    whatever happened to restaurant week price matching the year??

    it should be $20.09 for the meal! bah.. inflation, stupid stupid inflation

    M

    *my head is hurting*
    Originally posted by markymoo
    Here here!
    • bamblolo
    • By bamblolo 10th Jan 09, 11:44 AM
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    bamblolo
    Hotel Affina 50
    Just to let all you know i have just returned from a very enjoyable stay at the above hotel. We were there for New Year and went to times square but im afraid we didnt last till midnight it was so cold we ran back to our hotel and watched it on the T.V. The hotel was very nice and well located we found our way round no problem even using the subway! I just want to go back this year but i dont think i would go for New Year again it was so busy. Hope this helps anyone thinking of going.
  • wept
    hi all

    going to NY for a week on the 13th and we'll be there for Valentine's day wondering if anyone has any ideas on what we could do to make it abit special, nice resturants, somethnig different etc, as a NY newbie i don't know what's around.
    I did try and book the Two times (revolving) at the Marriott Times Square but its fully booked all day for the 14th so ive booked the 15th instead.

    Ideas would be welcome xx
    Originally posted by melissa'smoney
    We went the day after Thanksgiving to The View great meal fantastic quality - awesome view.
    Not that expensive really 3 course meal for 2 - a couple of beers and fruit based drink for the lady came to $212.
    • melissa'smoney
    • By melissa'smoney 10th Jan 09, 6:34 PM
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    melissa'smoney
    We went the day after Thanksgiving to The View great meal fantastic quality - awesome view.
    Not that expensive really 3 course meal for 2 - a couple of beers and fruit based drink for the lady came to $212.
    Originally posted by wept
    hi glad you posted this as i thought the 'two times' was the revolving resturant but it is in fact 'the view' so i've changed my reservation

    thanks x

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  • HGLTsuperstar
    Just had email from Virgin flying club promoting their 25th anniversary year of celebrations and offers to their fave destinations over the course of the year. Anyone know about this - guessing NYC would count as a fave destination so another sale later in the year on the cards?
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