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    indiegirl
    My washing machine vibrates the whole kitchen!
    • #1
    • 20th Jan 06, 12:32 PM
    My washing machine vibrates the whole kitchen! 20th Jan 06 at 12:32 PM
    Hello,

    I've just moved into a first floor flat, and have - so far - kept the thin vinyl flooring that the builders installed. I had my washing machine on spin last night, and my downstairs neighbour knocked to inform me that her kitchen lights were shaking! To be fair, it was a heavy load and on a fast spin, but I noticed that it was affecting my kitchen floor quite badly in terms of vibrations.

    I'm planning on getting some thicker (and nicer!) vinyl flooring down at some point, but can anyone recommend anything either in the meantime, or some sort of insulating underlay that I can use with new vinyl flooring?? I definitely don't want to annoy my new neighbours, but will still need to spin the washing machine!

    TIA

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  • medical
    • #2
    • 20th Jan 06, 12:36 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 12:36 PM
    pls check that you have taken the safety thing at the back ( to do with transporting)
    out
    we had our washing machine vibrating for 6 months and could not fathom what the problem was until we called someone in
    medical
  • black-saturn
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    • 20th Jan 06, 12:37 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 12:37 PM
    Some women quite like it
    • calleyw
    • By calleyw 20th Jan 06, 12:58 PM
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    calleyw
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    • 20th Jan 06, 12:58 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 12:58 PM
    I am sure you can get some things to slide under the machine to stop it jumping it about. Typical can't find anything at the moment.

    I use to live in ground floor flat and my neighbour use to 99.9% of there washing during the day or not after 6pm during the week.

    Here is an interesting articlenot sure it is much help.

    And here

    But it does really come down to the an uneven load and the the really naff way that builders build. Even in flat which was built in 1980 if I had no radio on I could just about hear the Telly upstairs.

    Personally all flats and adjoing houses should be made to have decent sound proofing by law.

    So you can only do so much as well as making sure you keep the machine in good working condition eg. when the bearings go get it fixed as it make a noise like something in hades would.

    Enjoy your new flat though. You just need to be mindful so no jumping around with your clogs on


    Yours

    Calley
    Last edited by calleyw; 20-01-2006 at 1:03 PM.
    • calleyw
    • By calleyw 20th Jan 06, 1:03 PM
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    calleyw
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:03 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:03 PM
    Some women quite like it
    by black-saturn
    yeah but would have thought the other thing* would have been cheaper and more discreet.

    And while searching for info on vibrating washing machines. More of the other things* are sold then washing machines and tumble driers put together every year


    Yours


    Calley

    *did not want offend anyone just incase we have any young readers. But I am sure that most of the adults will know what I am referring to
  • RedOnRed
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:07 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:07 PM
    If you have a 1600 spin speeder like our Bosch, then on max spin it's always going vibrate big time.

    Make extra sure that the machine is perfectly level. However, even after that ours still vibrated excessively so we called Bosch out and the engineer put some sort of dampeners on it and it's been a lot better since.
  • across
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:15 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:15 PM
    you lucky thing indiegirl!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • markdavey
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:46 PM
    • #8
    • 20th Jan 06, 1:46 PM
    Hello,

    I've just moved into a first floor flat, and have - so far - kept the thin vinyl flooring that the builders installed. I had my washing machine on spin last night, and my downstairs neighbour knocked to inform me that her kitchen lights were shaking! To be fair, it was a heavy load and on a fast spin, but I noticed that it was affecting my kitchen floor quite badly in terms of vibrations.

    I'm planning on getting some thicker (and nicer!) vinyl flooring down at some point, but can anyone recommend anything either in the meantime, or some sort of insulating underlay that I can use with new vinyl flooring?? I definitely don't want to annoy my new neighbours, but will still need to spin the washing machine!

    TIA
    by indiegirl
    We simply cut a bit of old thick carpet to the size of the w/machine base and put it, upside down, under the machine, damps down the sound quite a lot.
  • theadore
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:53 PM
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    • 20th Jan 06, 1:53 PM
    leaving innuendo aside.

    if you want the machine to stop shaking the whole kitchen... look at the back of the machine, there should be 2 or 3 'transit bolts' in the back, these hold the couterweight steady in the machine so its not damaged in transit.

    Also look at the feet, one or two should turn so you can adjust to the level of your floor, oncve you have it balanced it should limit the noise for you neighbours considerably.
  • MrWolf
    If the Transit bolts are removed and it is not a really really really old washer it should not be as noisy as you describe. Besides a lot of machines do not even work unless the bolts are removed. The chances are it needs some attention from an engineer. The 2 most common causes of this are a broken suspension leg. There are normally 3 of these, they act like shock aborbers in your car to reduce vibration. The other is the bolts have worked loose on the concrete dampener. This is basically a heavy concrete block bolted to the top or botton of the drum. It works on the principle that heavy things do not move easily. All washing machine have at least one of these. Sometimes the bolts work loose and simply need tightening. Watch out for grey dust on the floor. This means that the movement is severe and the bolts can shear the anchor points of the drum and then a new drum would be needed. Personally, I would not use it until it had been checked by an engineer as it can only get worse. Now it might still be a simple repair only needing some bolts tightening (call out only). Leave it and you may need parts too.
  • killmymortgage
    Hi Indie Girl,

    Here's the engineering solution. We did this when we lived in a flat with our washing machine.

    We bought a large peice of hard board approximately 1 inch thick and cut it to the size of the washing machine footprint.

    To this square of wood we fixed some heavy duty rubber washers at each corner. You are basically trying to separate the connection between the washer and the floor. Preferably just put one at each corner, but make sure the washers are up to the job. The rubbers go down to the floor, the washing machine stands on the wood.

    Basically Noise and vibration are types of energy. The more solid the connection between one vibrating object and the next the more energy will flow between it and the more noise will be transmitted.

    Think of a cats cradle (you know those exeucutive desk toys) with the balls swinging. One steel ball hits the next, the energy goes through all the balls and makes the last ball move.

    Imagine putting something between the steel balls to stop such a good connection, such as a rubber mat, the last ball now doesn't move so much, as so much energy is not transmitted.

    So your washing machine vibrates passing that energy into the building and moves your neighbours ceiling. The board and rubbers underneath your washing machine create an artificial floor, similar in construction to a 'floating floor' which is used to sound proof flat floors. This joint is now flexible and does not conduct so much of the energy..........therefore your neighbour gets less noise.

    You'll need to do a bit of experimentation.......but it's worth it. Try asking around for a DIY genius........they always seem to fall for good cakes and tea.

    Also worth checking that everything is well with your washing machine. Sometimes the straps that hold the drum in place work loose and this creates a lot of noise as the drum moves a lot more than normal.
  • Mr Proctalgia
    Two questions :- Does it vibrate if you spin it when empty and whilst it is off if you open the door and take hold of a good handfull of drum is there any play in it?
    The quicker you fall behind, the longer you have to catch up...
  • indiegirl
    Apologies for the late response to this, I've been waiting for my internet connection to be sorted to the flat (and a phoneline, and TV... but that's another whinge).

    Some of you will sniff, but it's a brand new Hotpoint (see, told you some would sniff) Aquarius "super silent" (ha!) washer dryer (WD645). By brand new I mean a week old. All transit bolts were removed once it was delivered when plumbed in.

    I've had the spirit level on the machine and it's dead level...

    I haven't spun it when empty but there is no play in the drum when turned off. On a slower spin, there is slight vibration but it's only once I select a full 'rinse and spin' that all hell breaks loose. It's a 1400 spin so I guess like RedOnRed's Bosch it will vibrate, I wasn't quite expecting as much, though!

    KillMy... thank you for your suggestion. I love the idea of the 'floating floor' and will almost certainly investigate that. It doesn't sound expensive and could just be the solution...

  • bigburd
    My machine used to vibrate a lot on spin too. My solution was to pack a wad of paper in the small gap between the top of the machine and the underside of the worktop. This cushions the machine while holding it still against the floor. Mine's in a utility room so it's just stuffed in at the front but you can do it at both sides about half way back with the same effect. Because the wad is not a completely solid block, there is a bit of 'give' so the worktop and machine are not damaged.
  • metalli-chick
    new washing machine
    If your machine is brand new and has been installed properly, as you said it was - all level and the transit bolts removed - it should not vibrate. Get on to your seller/installer or Hotpoint and complain about the vibration and noise. If you wait too long it will end up out of warranty and that's never good.

    When it's fixed it sounds like the rubber footed fake floor could hurt for your neighbour downstairs though.

    metalli-chick
    I'm way beyond scared, I'm somewhere between bedwetting and a near death experience
  • elvis_bloggs
    My washer vibrates if all the washing gets stuck to one side of the drum on a spin.
  • kelbells
    pls check that you have taken the safety thing at the back ( to do with transporting)
    out
    we had our washing machine vibrating for 6 months and could not fathom what the problem was until we called someone in
    medical
    Originally posted by medical
    was having the same prolem with my new machine it was like it was possessed flying across the kitchen, i choose the wrong option when ordering and didnthave them install it, thought it was as simple as connecting the pipes!!! i removed those big bolts transporter thingys like u said and the machine is F I N E fine!!! lol

    thanks for that x
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