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  • bargepole
    • #2
    • 18th Dec 08, 6:57 PM
    • #2
    • 18th Dec 08, 6:57 PM
    Just wondering if anybody had any dealings relating to this mob?

    They have stuck a notice on my windscreen suggesting I 'left' a car park in their control.

    How they would be able to prove I wasn't on the site, large retail, is beyond me.
    Originally posted by Neillgb
    Even if you did leave the site and come back, they have no means of enforcing their ridiculous charges. Ignore anything they send you, it's a scam.
    Speeding cases fought: 24 (3 of mine, 21 for others). Cases won: 20. Points on licence: 0. Private Parking Court Cases: Won 7. Lost 3. Adjourned 1.
  • Neillgb
    • #3
    • 19th Dec 08, 1:26 AM
    • #3
    • 19th Dec 08, 1:26 AM
    Done a bit of digging, these articles seem to sum it up very well,

    http://www.todaynet.co.uk/parking.php

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/fight-parking-tickets

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/02/dvla_data_sharing/comments/

    Off to bed now!! 2pm!!
    Last edited by Neillgb; 19-12-2008 at 1:56 AM.
  • 13del
    • #4
    • 23rd Nov 09, 2:07 PM
    uk parking control ltd
    • #4
    • 23rd Nov 09, 2:07 PM
    Hi there...

    I search this company on the net, and read this forum and did what you guys advised and ignored the letters. Today i got a letter from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd about the recovery of the money owed and talking of ccj's and ideas out there
  • Premier
    • #5
    • 23rd Nov 09, 2:12 PM
    • #5
    • 23rd Nov 09, 2:12 PM
    What a coincidence!
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=27155431&postcount=6
  • Coupon-mad
    • #6
    • 24th Nov 09, 1:16 AM
    • #6
    • 24th Nov 09, 1:16 AM
    Hi there...

    I search this company on the net, and read this forum and did what you guys advised and ignored the letters. Today i got a letter from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd about the recovery of the money owed and talking of ccj's and ideas out there
    Originally posted by 13del
    You will not just 'get' a CCJ and they cannot send Bailiffs round, without first of all going to the County Court. But they won't go to the County Court.

    It's all a scam, Debt Recovery Plus have no powers and are probably the same company (just using different letter-heading to frighten you). Check the phone numbers, addresses and writing style on the letters you've had - likely to be one and the same company.

    These chancers get their money from the mugs who pay. You may get a few more letters and then they will give up and move on to a more likely victim. Don't be scared by them, nor of any fake Solicitor 'intended litigation' letter which they might try out on you. They really will go away, they want to trick you out of your money but they will only send a certain number of letters before giving up.

    You only need to post back on here if you actually get REAL Court Documents.




    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!





    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 14-08-2014 at 6:17 PM.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • cadwell14
    • #7
    • 25th Nov 09, 2:09 PM
    UKPC - what was wrong with where I parked?
    • #7
    • 25th Nov 09, 2:09 PM
    Just recieved a 'civil traffic enforcement notice' for my motorcycle, parked where the supermarket have provided bars; for I presume; the convenience of customers securing 2 wheeled vehicles. Will visit tomorrow to investiate signage. This area is under cover, so I would say they couldn't argue the bike was on the pavement. I'm not a timid person, but I am tempted to pay it's the fear of it all going wrong. I have no proof that I didn't park it. Are there any rules about what is considered a proper parking place. The 'contravention' they quote is 'Vehicle parked in unauthorised area' . Is that for them to decide or can I ask for a copy of some sort of proof that this is an unauthorised parking area.?
  • trisontana
    • #8
    • 25th Nov 09, 2:31 PM
    • #8
    • 25th Nov 09, 2:31 PM
    Just recieved a 'civil traffic enforcement notice' for my motorcycle, parked where the supermarket have provided bars; for I presume; the convenience of customers securing 2 wheeled vehicles. Will visit tomorrow to investiate signage. This area is under cover, so I would say they couldn't argue the bike was on the pavement. I'm not a timid person, but I am tempted to pay it's the fear of it all going wrong. I have no proof that I didn't park it. Are there any rules about what is considered a proper parking place. The 'contravention' they quote is 'Vehicle parked in unauthorised area' . Is that for them to decide or can I ask for a copy of some sort of proof that this is an unauthorised parking area.?
    Originally posted by cadwell14
    Don't wast you petrol going back to the supermarket. This is an unenforceable invoice. You do not have to "prove" anything. Please read all the other threads on here to see there is nothing to worry about. You might get a few letters from them but just ignore them.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Coupon-mad
    • #9
    • 25th Nov 09, 11:48 PM
    • #9
    • 25th Nov 09, 11:48 PM
    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!

    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!



    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!


    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 14-08-2014 at 6:18 PM.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • Alx*27
    You're concentrating on your actions rather than the fact a private company is demanding money for no reason.

    Even if you gleefully told them you parked your Hummer over 3 spaces, they would no have legal right to 50 or 100.

    The charge is *unenforceable*.
  • 13del
    uk parking ltd
    Thanks Guys for all your input and advice
  • BFG
    Welcome! *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING*
    Please start a new thread for your case (if you post in the discussion threads your post will not be seen by many) and take a look at these two threads which will be of assistance:
    List of Terms/Acronyms/Abbreviations Used on this Board

    How to Upload & Post Images (PCN/NtO/other paperwork)

    Council Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs)

    1) SCAN the PCN (front and back) together with any other paperwork (200dpi should be fine). Pictures of the parking bay/signs/lines will also help.

    2) BLANK out personal details (i.e. PCN serial number, car registration number, any name/address details) using Paint or equivalent image editing program to remove appropriate details.

    3) UPLOAD to image hosting site and link from your thread - simply copy and paste the "direct link for layout" link which looks something like this: http://tinypic.com/xxxxxxxxx.jpg.
    For detailed help with scanning, erasing and uploading, please see this thread:
    How to Upload & Post Images (PCN/NtO/other paperwork)
    4) MENTION which council issued the PCN/NtO if you're unable to scan paperwork.



    Private Parking Companies (PPCs)
    (Read Martin's Article)

    1) PPC tickets (referred to by some as toilet paper ) are NOT fines or fixed penalties, they are invoices based on a presumed contract with the driver.

    2) When posting, please don't mention your vehicle make/model or exact location and most importantly do NOT say who was driving. PPC trolls do read these and other forums and may try to use this information against you. Do not post any info that may identify you. It isn't usually necessary to post the 'ticket' from a PPC.

    3) PPC charges have been shown to be generally unenforceable in Court, and they hardly ever issue proceedings, despite the threats in their intimidatory letters.

    4) Do NOT write to the PPC to 'appeal' the ticket - the appeals process is a complete sham, they just want your money and thus will reject the 'appeal'.

    5) If you don't take action on the ticket, the PPC will get the registered keeper's details from the DVLA, for a fee of 2.50. The registered keeper has no liability, since the presumed contract was formed with the driver. And, if you don't tell the PPC who was driving, they don't have a case.

    6) Ignore the ticket completely until they've bought your details from the DVLA (costs just 2.50) and write to the registered keeper. Opinions vary on whether to send a template letter in reply or simply ignore all correspondence, however, anecdotal evidence from this forum and Pepipoo indicates that with the 'ignoring everything' option they will give up after a few scary looking letters and false threats of bailiffs/CCJs/credit record entries.

    (thanks to bargepole for help in compiling the PPC section above)
    --

    P.S: Thanks to all who help out on the boards - for comments and feedback click here.
  • Fidge
    Hi all I've just got a letter form debt recovery plus ltd. for a parking ticket with UKPC issued for leaving site! I was not driving at the time of the penalty notice and have stated this to UKPC but yet they still persist! I phoned Debt recovery plus ltd. today and the lady on the phone stated that it was up to me ( the registered keeper) to prove that I wasnt driving in court or declare who was the driver!

    I cant believe they are trying to enforce a civil claim which has resulted in no loss to UKPC whatsoever! Surely this can never go to court!? They want 147 out of me which they are certainly not going to get!
  • biscuitdunker
    Fidge, it certainly is NOT up to you to prove that you were not driving. You have been lied to. You should not have contacted "Debt Recovery Plus", you should have continued to ignore them. It is unlikely it will go to court, but please, have no more contact with them.
  • Coblcris
    They lied. Disengage from them.
  • chickenman2745
    i recieved a ticket after breaking down wile in macdonalds car park an so far recieved 4 letters , latest from dept recovery.bit scary but i think i will keep going . what dose any one els think?
  • bargepole
    McDonalds have no more right to fine anyone than I do to fine them for foisting their overpriced junk food on the British public. McIgnore.
    Speeding cases fought: 24 (3 of mine, 21 for others). Cases won: 20. Points on licence: 0. Private Parking Court Cases: Won 7. Lost 3. Adjourned 1.
  • Coupon-mad
    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!

    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!



    IF YOU ARE READING THIS ANCIENT OLD THREAD AFTER 2013 - WHY WHY WHY?

    IT IS ANCIENT, A FORUM'S PAGE ONE IS ONLY EVER ONE CLICK AWAY FROM ANY THREAD. THINGS CHANGE, ADVICE CHANGES, DO NOT READ OLD FORUM THREADS, EVER, ON ANY SUBJECT IF LOOKING FOR IMPORTANT ADVICE ON MONEY MATTERS.


    see my signature below (the black writing) for where to click in the above breadcrumb trail (LITTLE BLUE LINK) to hop ONE CLICK to page one and read the top threads of CURRENT advice on private parking tickets.


    STOP READING THIS OLD THREAD.

    STOP!


    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 14-08-2014 at 6:18 PM.
    PCN in a private car park in England/Wales? DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    USE THE 'FORUM JUMP' ON RIGHT, GO TO THE PARKING TICKETS FORUM. READ THE 'NEWBIES' THREAD.
    Do NOT read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

  • chickenman2745
    dept recovery plus
    thanks to all for the advice ..
    just recieved another letter from dept recovery plus
    notice of intended litigation
    out standing 153.75
    silicitor fee 50.00
    court fee for issue of claim form 30.00
    solicitors fee for getting judgment(by default ) 25.00
    predicted amount outstanding 285.75

    if payed in 7 days 135.75

    one thing i do know ccj's are only issued by a court and you have 14 days to sett your case before the judge.. think i will wait for my day in court..
  • Sir Roger deLodger
    .. think i will wait for my day in court..
    Originally posted by chickenman2745
    You will have a very long wait then!
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