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  • Oldernotwiser
    • #2
    • 11th Nov 08, 8:22 AM
    • #2
    • 11th Nov 08, 8:22 AM
    You'd find out about any discounts by contacting the driving schools direct. However, even with a substantial discount, I doubt that you'd be able to afford this and keep yourself at the same time. Get a temporary job and pay for lessons out of your earnings.
  • Boppy
    • #3
    • 11th Nov 08, 10:09 AM
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    • 11th Nov 08, 10:09 AM
    You could also ask at the Jobcentre, I'm not sure exactly what help they give but they can help with courses and things so whether they would help with driving lessons i do not know, but it's worth asking
  • hamstercheeks
    • #4
    • 11th Nov 08, 10:19 AM
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    • 11th Nov 08, 10:19 AM
    it's very expensive owning and running a car. You would need more than benefits to keep you going
  • OrkneyStar
    • #5
    • 11th Nov 08, 10:19 AM
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    • 11th Nov 08, 10:19 AM
    I guess its such a low amount as its not meant to be a long term income!
    I am not sure what help you would get, ask at JobCentre, but would it not have to be almost free for you to afford it ?
    Spend your time looking for work (any work!), then use the earnings from that to pay for your lessons!
    You are lucky to have an understanding relative to live with.
  • marchand
    • #6
    • 11th Nov 08, 2:04 PM
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    • 11th Nov 08, 2:04 PM
    Thanks for all your advice,
    Just to let some of you know, i am not a free loader who wants to have a car and live off my benefits. Im 23 years old graduate and have worked since the age of 15. But i have to have very expensive dental treatment which will put me in a lot of debt if i had to pay for it, so i was advised to sign on - which ill do for a short period. I just think it would be constructive for JSA to offer young people who sign on benefits such as driving discounts in exchange for additional courses etc. Just to give them something to do during the day and to make them feel posistive about finding employment.

    Appreciate your words of wisdom
  • OrkneyStar
    • #7
    • 11th Nov 08, 3:42 PM
    • #7
    • 11th Nov 08, 3:42 PM
    Thanks for all your advice,
    Just to let some of you know, i am not a free loader who wants to have a car and live off my benefits. Im 23 years old graduate and have worked since the age of 15. But i have to have very expensive dental treatment which will put me in a lot of debt if i had to pay for it, so i was advised to sign on - which ill do for a short period. I just think it would be constructive for JSA to offer young people who sign on benefits such as driving discounts in exchange for additional courses etc. Just to give them something to do during the day and to make them feel posistive about finding employment.

    Appreciate your words of wisdom
    Originally posted by marchand
    Are you saying you were advised to sign on in order to get free dental treatment ? And are you also saying you think you should also be given more benefits (albeit in kind) ? Presumably if you are a graduate you could get a decent (ish) job, pay for your own treatment (in instalments if need be), and pay for your own driving lessons too ?
    If you are offered a job while on JSA you will have to have good reason to refuse it, then your free dental treatment (and whatever else) will stop when you start work.
    Surely you would feel more positive working for your own money and paying for your dental work and driving lessons yourself ?
    TBH we need things to get people off JSA, not keep more on it!!!
    I think that people on JSA are supposed to job seek during the day, are they not ? I do think there are some courses that are offered, in basic things like computing (ECDL etc) but as I have not had contact with Job Centre for a long time I could not be sure.
    Not meaning to sound harsh, but just think about what you are actually saying for a minute!
    In my day, not that long ago, I graduated, got a job (well a better one as I had worked part time), and paid my way (in my own rented flat with no benefits of any kind), managed to pay for dental treatment AND driving lessons! It was an ok paid job but after rent, Ctax etc I was not well off, I managed though and prioritised!
    Good luck whatever you do.
    Last edited by OrkneyStar; 11-11-2008 at 3:44 PM.
  • viktory
    • #8
    • 11th Nov 08, 4:35 PM
    • #8
    • 11th Nov 08, 4:35 PM
    Just to let some of you know, i am not a free loader who wants to have a car and live off my benefits. Im 23 years old graduate and have worked since the age of 15. But i have to have very expensive dental treatment which will put me in a lot of debt if i had to pay for it, so i was advised to sign on - which ill do for a short period. I just think it would be constructive for JSA to offer young people who sign on benefits such as driving discounts in exchange for additional courses etc. Just to give them something to do during the day and to make them feel posistive about finding employment.

    Appreciate your words of wisdom
    Originally posted by marchand
    You are a bloody free loader. Get your lazy, sorry, free loading @rse back to work.

    Cheeky b@stard.
    Last edited by viktory; 11-11-2008 at 4:40 PM.
  • zappster1966
    • #9
    • 11th Nov 08, 5:13 PM
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    • 11th Nov 08, 5:13 PM
    Presumably you know someone who drives. They can give you free driving lessons. They might not be very good, but at least they're free. The library will have books about your theory test. Borrow them. They're free.

    It's a shocking indictment of this Labour government that someone working at the Job Centre hasn't sat the test on your behalf. Poor you. I'd appeal. Or ask for compensation. Or ask for both. Ask through the medium of disco dancing outside the Job Centre tomorrow while you wait for your giro.
  • pipkin71
    In our area, it isn't the job centres who offer free driving courses, but those back to work centres which you are sometimes referred to on New Deal. The lessons are given on some work focus courses but you have to have been out of work for some time.

    Whether the same types of schemes are run in all areas is another matter.
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  • Conor
    Thanks for all your advice,
    Just to let some of you know, i am not a free loader
    Originally posted by marchand
    And now Marchand draws out his shotgun, points it at his foot, pulls the trigger and...
    But i have to have very expensive dental treatment which will put me in a lot of debt if i had to pay for it, so i was advised to sign on
    BOTH BARRELS.

    I thought you weren't a free loader? I wonder how the DSS would view you claiming in light of this revelation?

    Proof, if any were needed, that graduates are getting thicker by the year.

    And people wondered why I made this post:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1279669
    Last edited by Conor; 11-11-2008 at 8:00 PM.
  • hamstercheeks
    But i have to have very expensive dental treatment which will put me in a lot of debt if i had to pay for it, so i was advised to sign on - which ill do for a short period. I just think it would be constructive for JSA to offer young people who sign on benefits such as driving discounts in exchange for additional courses etc. Just to give them something to do during the day and to make them feel posistive about finding employment.

    Appreciate your words of wisdom
    Originally posted by marchand
    why should the taxpayer have to pay for your expensive dental treatment? I don't get it :confused:
    whoever advised you to do that is a total sponger
    i have always had to pay for my dental treatment, albeit in instalments but it came out of my own pocket and it makes me sick to think that i'm working from 8am to 6pm for the past 25 years just to pay dental treatment for people 'who don't wantto be in debt' and to offer them free or reduced driving lessons just so that they can feel positive???
    that's nuts,total and utter nuts.
    why should I work my butt off to save lazy dolescrounging spongers some money when they already drain my taxes as it is.
    my one pet hate is benefit scroungers - those who DON'T deserve it. Particuolarly those who 'pretend' that they are either
    a) depressed
    b) disabled
    c) dependant on others to get through each day

    my sister falls into all 3 categories but is a nightmare trying to get any money out of hte government. The fact that you are even thinking about what freebies you CAN get and totally focusing on how to get that and not struggling to get through the day tellsme loads. Get off your lazy butt and get a job!
  • mouseymousey99
    Oh god oh god - what a day...............
    Think I'll hanger left of the B Board for a while it is too depressing for words. M
  • viktory
    And now Marchand draws out his shotgun, points it at his foot, pulls the trigger and...
    BOTH BARRELS.

    I thought you weren't a free loader? I wonder how the DSS would view you claiming in light of this revelation?

    Proof, if any were needed, that graduates are getting thicker by the year...
    Originally posted by Conor


    Brilliant.
  • briona
    Hi, I am new to signing on for Job Seekers Allowance, and i think 45 pounds per week is a terrible amount to offer someone to live on. I live with a relative so i cant have my rent paid for.

    But my main question is, can people claiming job seekers get discounts on driving lessons? Id like to learn to drive to increase the chances of jobs in my field. But the average lesson is half my weekly income
    Originally posted by marchand
    Driving may make your life easier but it's by no means essential and benefits are not there to provide you with every luxury going. Why should the state fund your desire to learn to drive? It took me FOUR years to pass a test (and I don't even want to add up how much money I spent!) should the state really be expected to fund someone for that long? NO! Harsh as it may seem, if you want driving lessons, get a job.

    As for the "terrible amount" you have to live on per week, if JSA were more generous, it wouldn't exactly incentivise people to find work... :rolleyes:
    If I don't respond to your posts, it's probably because you're on my 'Ignore' list.
  • LondonDiva
    . But i have to have very expensive dental treatment which will put me in a lot of debt if i had to pay for it, so i was advised to sign on - which ill do for a short period.
    Originally posted by marchand
    You are joking right

    The max NHS fee for treatment is about 198 and change. Get a temping job or work for one of the supermarkets and shops looking for staff over the christmas period and you'll have saved up in a couple of weeks.
    "This is a forum - not a support group. We do not "owe" anyone unconditional acceptance of their opinions."
  • tink the stink
    Jobcentre won't pay for driving lessons under any circumstances so don't even bother......I work in one & the amount of times we get asked is unbelieveable!

    Driving Instructors have to make a living so doubt if they'd give a reduction

    JSA is only meant to be a stop gap between employment not a way to fund your dental work

    Could say typical student but sure everybody feels the same way about you!
  • hanny83
    Whatever happened to having a bit of pride and self-respect and the feeling of accomplishment at being able to afford to pay for things yourself? It is one of the joys of working!! And in these dark times any money left in the government pot could be better spent elsewhere- not driving lessons and your mush!
  • pligyy69
    WOW! You lot are what's wrong with this contry. Now the people are so opiniated about the benefits system. I wondered who that advert showing people ringing up about there nieghbour's fiddlin the system. Don't u realise we pay so much when working so that when we need it the safety net is their. We pay for it to so who gave you the monopoly on how our money's spent, as far as i'm aware thats for the quangos to decide, nothing to do with public opinion. Don't believe me check out a hospital and ask a doctor or nurse if they think they have what they need, or our armed forces, do they have all the equipment they need. This country's people needs support for the real things, not the herd buying up the advertising hype of the social security system which fails to pay out, just like the insurance companies once you need to claim. Why view people who actually use the benefits system we all pay for as somehow owing something to everyone, its ours, that is eveyone. And these days it may well be you thats using tht system, through no fault of your own, then ur the same
  • viktory
    WOW! You lot are what's wrong with this contry. Now the people are so opiniated about the benefits system. I wondered who that advert showing people ringing up about there nieghbour's fiddlin the system. Don't u realise we pay so much when working so that when we need it the safety net is their. We pay for it to so who gave you the monopoly on how our money's spent, as far as i'm aware thats for the quangos to decide, nothing to do with public opinion. Don't believe me check out a hospital and ask a doctor or nurse if they think they have what they need, or our armed forces, do they have all the equipment they need. This country's people needs support for the real things, not the herd buying up the advertising hype of the social security system which fails to pay out, just like the insurance companies once you need to claim. Why view people who actually use the benefits system we all pay for as somehow owing something to everyone, its ours, that is eveyone. And these days it may well be you thats using tht system, through no fault of your own, then ur the same
    Originally posted by pligyy69
    Wake me up when you get to the point of your illiterate rant.
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