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    bigalc
    Which is the best Kitchen for Quaility
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    • 23rd Nov 09, 11:01 PM
    Which is the best Kitchen for Quaility 23rd Nov 09 at 11:01 PM
    Hi, new to the site and looking for some advise on kitchen units. I have been looking at Magnet and Moben (or Kitchens Direct as they are supply only) the ranges seem very similar and the price was almost the same. Magnet slightly dearer. Magnet offer a 15 year guarentee and Moben a 5 year on the cabinets. They both offer ridgid build. I have also stumbled accross DIY Kitchens and Wren Kitchens which are internet only (ie im in Scotland and cant get to their showrooms). Both of these kitchens are half the price of Moben/Magnet. These Internet companys offer 10 year guarentees on the cabinets but i can only go from pictures and word of mouth on the quality. I was wondering if anyone else has gone through the same experience recently and what the choice was and were they satisfied?

    Cheers Al
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    • vkusuman
    • By vkusuman 15th Dec 09, 11:15 PM
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    vkusuman
    Hi Al,
    Did you order your kitchens with DIY? you got your delivery?
    Please let us know your feedback about their delivery time (how long it took) and the quality of the kitchen.
    Thanks,
    Varas
    • pineapple
    • By pineapple 16th Dec 09, 1:39 PM
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    pineapple
    Magnet can be quite pricey but my fitter has a trade agreement with Magnet (the trade range is slightly different and cheaper) and I got a brill new kitchen for a reasonable cost.
  • davey_005
    I had to respond to this one. I supply Magnet Trade, Howdens and the same kitchens that DIY Kitchens sell (though I buy through a trade source). There is no definitive answer as to who is the best price as it varies enormously depending on the actual range you choose. Magnet Trade and Howdens have ranges at the bottom end of their price band that work out cheaper than any DIY Kitchens offering (particularly the Greenwich and Saponetta range from Howdens).

    However I have absolutely no doubt that DIY kitchens are the best quality. You will see their products all over the internet and in many expensive independent kitchen showrooms, marketed under a variety of names. I buy from the same people as DIY do and can confirm that their prices are extremely competitive. I can't vouch for their cabinets as I buy mine from a different source.

    If anyone wants someone to do all the legwork and take responsibility for design and planning, Howdens or Magnets may be a better bet. However if you want to take the initiative and plan your kitchen yourself I would recommend DIY almost every time. They are a good option for the general public and I would struggle/couldn't supply the same kitchen at the same price. I have customers that have used them and can confirm their customer service is good. If anyone is undecided on whether or not the DIY option is a good one, I say go for it, it's a good decision and the cost savings are genuine.
  • peterdee
    I think it depends a lot on which kitchen you select from each retailers range. We went for a kitchen from B&Q, it was solid oak and at the upper end of their range, but it has been excellent (it is now 3 years old). We decided that our good quality B&Q kitchen was much better value for money than a bottom of the range model from a slightly more upmarket company. However, the quality of the mid to lower end of the B&Q range wasn't very inspiring.
    • cranford
    • By cranford 28th Dec 09, 3:20 PM
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    cranford
    "vkusuman" was asking about delivery from DIY-Kitchens. I am a happy customer (oct 2009) and my order was complete and deivered bang on time. If you look under "delivery" on their web site you can see the delivery week commencing date. Today it shows week commencing 18/1/2010 and I believe it get rolled on by a week every wednesday. The thing to remember about their kitchens is that unless you pay then to do so, you need to drill the hinge holes on the doors. Not a problem for DIY'ers or kitchen fitters and DIY-Kitchens can supply a very easy to use jig.
  • Dirtypotatoes
    I've been to the Wren Kitchens in Stevenage and the Kitchens look great. Their units look about the same or slightly better quality than all the main Kitchen retail suppliers (Wicks, B&Q, Homebase, Ikea) but with bonus that all the units are ready made. The main reason I will be going with Wren is because they do tall wall units (90 cm) at really reasonable prices. The showroom looks great and has the look of John Lewis because of it's uncluttered and relaxed feeling.

    I will be ordering a kitchen from them as soon as I move in to my new flat. At the moment I can't comment to their customer care or the service overall but will be back as soon as I find out.
    I'm a newbie but don't hold it against me
  • physio012
    wren kitchens
    Hi, we liked Ikea kitchens but the wall units were too deep for our kitchen because of placement of windows, so we have just fitted a wren kitchen and we are really pleased with it. We did not go to a showroom, we looked it all up on the internet and then spoke to the salesman on the phone - which I'd strongly advise doing before you place your order. I emailed him my plans and he looked through and made excellent suggestions for me before placing final order. Quality is great, it was cheaper than homebase and much the same as B & Q's heaviest discount sale prices with the added advantage of ready built units. Doors and drawers all close beautifully and it looks great. One more tip - make sure you get the order right first time as they will charge £75 delivery even if you only need something small that you've missed. Hope this info helps.
    • 2smithy
    • By 2smithy 4th Jul 10, 4:22 PM
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    2smithy
    Just a word of caution for anyone thinking of buying from them. Plan carefully as there corner units do not open to give access to the full space so half of the unit is lost and the space only good for anything that comes out once a year. This equates to us losing three metres of shelf space which is a lot in a medium sized kitchen. Then when you E Mail to ask when they are improving the units to the standard offered by other sullpiers they E Mail back but don't answer the question asked.
    • Katgrit
    • By Katgrit 12th Jul 10, 12:26 AM
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    Katgrit
    Just a word of caution for anyone thinking of buying from them. Plan carefully as there corner units do not open to give access to the .............they E Mail back but don't answer the question asked.
    Originally posted by 2smithy
    Who are they?? Wren? Ikea??
    • 2smithy
    • By 2smithy 19th Jul 10, 7:55 PM
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    2smithy
    Sorry I meant Wrens. Also we have been advised that there prices have gone up by 25% from 16 July which seems a significant uplift and we were not sure if it was a sales tactic.
  • Sakir
    I visited Wren Kitchens on Sunday 25 July2010. I was impressed by the range if designs, the quality and prices. The customer service was good. The design consultant told us the prices were going up by 20% from 01Aug2010. Given the previous reply mentions prices were meant to have increased from the 16th, should I believe them? I not ready to place an order just yet and don't want to be pressured but if the prices do go up by 20% it's going to blow my budget. Is there anyway to verify this?
    • CKdesigner
    • By CKdesigner 27th Jul 10, 11:37 AM
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    CKdesigner
    I visited Wren Kitchens on Sunday 25 July2010. I was impressed by the range if designs, the quality and prices. The customer service was good. The design consultant told us the prices were going up by 20% from 01Aug2010. Given the previous reply mentions prices were meant to have increased from the 16th, should I believe them? I not ready to place an order just yet and don't want to be pressured but if the prices do go up by 20% it's going to blow my budget. Is there anyway to verify this?
    Originally posted by Sakir
    Hi Sakir

    I had a customer last week say the same thing to me about Wren's 20% increase. Either its a sales ploy to get the deposit from the customer quickly or just that they need to put the prices up as they have been selling things too cheaply!!! Only you can decide which it is.

    Good luck
  • Sakir
    Thanks

    I called Wren Kitchens today (their main sales hotline) and asked why the prices hadn't increased after the 16th. The salesperson told me, the prices will be increased sometime after the 16th, most probably on the 01Aug2010. This ties back to what I was told at the Stevenage showroom. The rise is expected to be about 20% and reason for it is due to higher raw material and FX costs. The salesperson mentioned, they can take a 25% deposit now and that would fix the price for 3 months.

    I'm still not sure what to do. Perhaps put a 25% down for a cheap, a few units kitchen. Then if I don’t go ahead, I lose a couple of hundred quid....not ideal...but not sure what else to do.

    Cheers
    • telsokari
    • By telsokari 27th Jul 10, 12:30 PM
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    telsokari
    if it helps, i have had my IKEA kitchen now for 7 months and it is brilliant. So easy to keep clean (White gloss) and still looks excellent.

    The only issue i have had is the hardwood worktop. Even though i gave it 4 coats of the Ronseal worktop protector its started to split around the sink area. so not too sure why this has happened but in terms of the cabinets they are excellent and i couldn't be happier with them.

    The kitchen cabinets and worktop in total cost be £1200 with delivery. This was 2 large lengths of the hardwood worktop, and 16 cabinets including the tall lada pull out and corner carousel cabinet unit. I also managed to get the extractor and hob included into that price. With the 25 year guarantee it was a pretty good deal. My fitter mentioned that the IKEA quality is better than B&Q, Wickes, Homesbase, DIY Kitchets and Howdens despite being cheaper

    For my other Oven and Fridge (American style LG with water and ice maker) i got them from Comet Clearance for a total of £600 and Bosch Slimline Dishwasher from Electrical Appliances for £215.
    • Meepster
    • By Meepster 27th Jul 10, 12:31 PM
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    Meepster
    How about you go to a company who doesn't try to get you to sign up there and then, by telling you that their prices are going up, when they actually aren't???

    Oh and just to add, chipboard prices (the main material they use) have only risen by around 1% in the last few months. The last time they increased significantly was late last year (around 4 or 5%)

    It looks even more like a cunning sales ploy now, right?
    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

    • Meepster
    • By Meepster 27th Jul 10, 12:34 PM
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    Meepster
    The only issue i have had is the hardwood worktop. Even though i gave it 4 coats of the Ronseal worktop protector its started to split around the sink area. so not too sure why this has happened but in terms of the cabinets they are excellent and i couldn't be happier with them.
    Originally posted by telsokari
    This has happened as any cut sections, in regular contact with water, need oiling more regularly. You also need to make sure you get underneath the worktop for as long as water can penetrate...
    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

  • esuckq
    the Wren "Sale"
    Hi Sakir

    I had a customer last week say the same thing to me about Wren's 20% increase. Either its a sales ploy to get the deposit from the customer quickly or just that they need to put the prices up as they have been selling things too cheaply!!! Only you can decide which it is.

    Good luck
    Originally posted by CKdesigner
    Google: Wren thisismoney and have a look at the comments... I think you have your answer!
    (nb. new user so can't post links)

    People shouldn't be allowed to get away with this kind of hypocricy.
    • CKdesigner
    • By CKdesigner 25th Aug 10, 6:48 PM
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    CKdesigner
    Google: Wren thisismoney and have a look at the comments... I think you have your answer!
    (nb. new user so can't post links)

    People shouldn't be allowed to get away with this kind of hypocricy.
    Originally posted by esuckq
    Amazing! It would seem he says one thing and then does exactly the opposite!
    Last edited by CKdesigner; 25-08-2010 at 7:00 PM.
  • Speedy247
    Incorrect Info
    Howdens are not supplied kitchen frontals and don't supply anyone else, they manufacture all of their own products in either their UK factories or their solid timber ranges come from their Italian factory. Most kitchen frontals from the cheap DIY outlets are copies made in Asia.
    • Halitosis
    • By Halitosis 28th Apr 11, 8:06 PM
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    Halitosis
    Our close friend is a joiner who has fitted hundreds of kitchens and is about to fit one for us. He is recommending Howdens (which he also fitted in his own kitchen). Howdens cabinets come pre-built and our man believes them superior/stronger and a higher density chipboard to flat-packed units from the other principle suppliers. A reputable fitter also gets a good discount from their supplier.
    Other friends recently spent nearly £20k on a Magnet kitchen and it honestly looks shabby - though this is principly down to the fitter (they got their builder to do instead of the supplier's fitters) - the moral is that a good tradesman can make cheap materials look good, and a poor tradesman can make expensive goods look cheap!
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