Party Wall objection

theGrinch
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Can a neighbour's objection to PP or to signing a party wall agreement scupper plans?
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  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    theGrinch wrote: »
    Can a neighbour's objection to PP or to signing a party wall agreement scupper plans?
    Yes, if it prevents planning permission being granted.
  • Doozergirl
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    Not really. There needs to be good reason to object to PP under planning rules which planning officers would probably be aware of. It's a formality, usually.

    As for party wall, you can't just withold consent. Party Wall surveyors are there to make sure that things are fair. A neighbour can make things more expensive but they can't stop the building.
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  • theGrinch
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    Thanks. Makes sense.
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  • parking_question_chap
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    edited 11 March 2018 at 8:35PM
    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Not really. There needs to be good reason to object to PP under planning rules which planning officers would probably be aware of. It's a formality, usually.

    Its a formality? What a sweeping generalisation.

    Dont you think it depends on what is being applied for?

    OP it depends on how the scheme compares to local and national policy.

    A formality indeed. Pah.
  • Doozergirl
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    parking_question_chap wrote: »
    Its a formality? What a sweeping generalisation.

    Dont you think it depends on what is being applied for?

    OP it depends on how the scheme compares to local and national policy.

    A formality indeed. Pah.

    Planning Officers are educated and employed to know what local and national policy is. As are the architects usually employed to submit plans. A neighbour is not. The consultation of neighbours on a small scheme is largely formality. If they find something that the PO and Architect miss then there's some serious questions to be asked about the capability of trained professionals.

    Neighbour consultation is a formality, usually. I stand by what I say. Have a read through most neighbour objections - they contain at least 50% exaggeration, assumption, conjecture and irrelevance.

    Going back to the OP, neighbours don't scupper plans, only the application contravening planning legislation can scupper plans.
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  • System
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Planning Officers are educated and employed to know what local and national policy is.

    You would think, but some I've had experience of recently won't make a decision if they get a couple of objections from "well known" members of the public (friends of councillors etc)
    Get's very old, very quick!

    But the general point is true, 90% of neighbour objections either aren't material planning considerations, or are bad interpretations of planning policy
  • parking_question_chap
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    Doozergirl wrote: »

    Going back to the OP, neighbours don't scupper plans, only the application contravening planning legislation can scupper plans.

    Not just that.

    The application getting called into committee and the councillors making a decision based on politics rather than planning, that can be a another spanner in the works.
  • Doozergirl
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    parking_question_chap wrote: »
    Not just that.

    The application getting called into committee and the councillors making a decision based on politics rather than planning, that can be a another spanner in the works.

    Did you read the OP? It was specifically about neighbours.

    Even the planning committee have to give valid planning reasons why an application is going to be rejected. Otherwise it gets overturned at appeal. The planning officers will push committee to get those reasons correct.

    Neighbours don't scupper plans. Planning legislation does.
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  • stevenway
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    Steve the Party wall Surveyor here - the party wall act is a permissive piece of legislation, it exists to allow you to do something. Providing that you are undertaking works permitted by the Act - most works on a party wall or structure, work on a boundary or excavation to a certain depth close by then your neighbour cannot stop you doing the work. to exercise those rights you do need to serve a notice and, if your neighbour requires it, enter into an agreement
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