Holiday Entitlement

Just started a new job, initially received a 'Conditional Offer' document which contained wording relating to holiday entitlement which was:

"Your holiday entitlement for this role will initially be 26 days (pro rata for part time staff) per full holiday year."

The formal offer document then contains the following in more detail:

"You are entitled to paid annual leave during each annual leave period calculated in accordance with the following table showing the full time entitlement. This entitlement includes the usual public holidays for the region that you work in, or an equivalent amount of holiday if you have to work on a public holiday.

Table mentioned above shows - "26 days plus 8 Bank Holidays".

Required to work 37 hours a week, full-time, permanent position.

Since been told that she is required to use her holiday entitlement for bank/public holidays (total of 9 this 17-18 financial year). Minus 5 days required for the festive period, leaves just 12 days for personal choice of annual leave days.

Submitted the query to the HR department, but wanted to seek opinions on here also.

Thoughts anyone?
Thanks in advance.

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  • Oakdene
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    edited 27 April 2017 at 11:31AM
    jam1991 wrote: »
    Just started a new job, initially received a 'Conditional Offer' document which contained wording relating to holiday entitlement which was:

    "Your holiday entitlement for this role will initially be 26 days (pro rata for part time staff) per full holiday year."

    The formal offer document then contains the following in more detail:

    "You are entitled to paid annual leave during each annual leave period calculated in accordance with the following table showing the full time entitlement. This entitlement includes the usual public holidays for the region that you work in, or an equivalent amount of holiday if you have to work on a public holiday.

    Table mentioned above shows - "26 days plus 8 Bank Holidays".

    Required to work 37 hours a week, full-time, permanent position.

    Since been told that she is required to use her holiday entitlement for bank/public holidays (total of 9 this 17-18 financial year). Minus 5 days required for the festive period, leaves just 12 days for personal choice of annual leave days.

    Submitted the query to the HR department, but wanted to seek opinions on here also.

    Thoughts anyone?
    Thanks in advance.

    It says that the entitlement includes bank holidays....

    Though I thought the minimum entitlement was 28 days rather than 26 days, that said if the leave year runs Apr-Mar then its conceivable you could lose 2 days based on working 11 months of the holiday year...
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  • getmore4less
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    full time is a minimum of 28 days, 5.6 weeks get that fixed first.

    if it really is 26+ BH then they are OK if not the then 26 base is not enough.

    the company can decide when you take the days, if they fix some then that leaves fewer floaters.
  • jobbingmusician
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    "Your holiday entitlement for this role will initially be 26 days (pro rata for part time staff) per full holiday year."

    This doesn't imply that it includes BH, and indeed were it to do so would be below the legal minimum.

    "You are entitled to paid annual leave during each annual leave period calculated in accordance with the following table showing the full time entitlement. This entitlement includes the usual public holidays for the region that you work in, or an equivalent amount of holiday if you have to work on a public holiday.

    Table mentioned above shows - "26 days plus 8 Bank Holidays".

    So the actual entitlement is 34 days including BH, but you can be required to work on BH.

    "You are entitled to paid annual leave during each annual leave period calculated in accordance with the following table showing the full time entitlement. This entitlement includes the usual public holidays for the region that you work in, or an equivalent amount of holiday if you have to work on a public holiday.

    jam1991 wrote: »

    Since been told that she is required to use her holiday entitlement for bank/public holidays (total of 9 this 17-18 financial year). Minus 5 days required for the festive period, leaves just 12 days for personal choice of annual leave days.

    The first sentence is correct (not sure about the 9 BH though). She has to use holiday entitlement for BH, but holiday entitlement totals 34 days. And you must have good 'festive period' celebrations for them to REQUIRE 5 days :)
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  • jam1991
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    edited 27 April 2017 at 1:29PM
    Thank you for the responses, I think the main thing to clarify for us is of two options.

    They say the entitlement is 26 days, having to use 9 days of that for bank holidays, 5 for festive period, leaving 12 days of annual leave.

    Or will it be 26 days plus 8 days bank holiday entitlement? Making 34 days in total as initially expected.
  • Masomnia
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    It'll be the latter because the former is illegal.

    You would hope...

    Going off what you've written it sounds like the total allowance is 34 days but you don't get to pick an choose all of it. In any case it's generous!
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