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    • z.j.c
    • By z.j.c 18th May 17, 3:25 PM
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    A Shade Greener
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    • 18th May 17, 3:25 PM
    A Shade Greener 18th May 17 at 3:25 PM
    Hey

    Currently in the process of buying a house which has A Shade Greener solar panels.

    After some discussions with the solicitors I've been told they need to obtain a deed of variation for the lease.

    Does anyone have any experience on if this is easy and how long it may take?

    Solicitors have quoted 4 weeks! But we are already well behind were we wanted to be and I don't know if it's more hassle than it's worth.

    Thanks
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    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 18th May 17, 3:50 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 3:50 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 3:50 PM
    Take some proper advice.

    This sounds like a "rent a roof" scheme, where the solar PV company paid for the panels and they receive the FIT payments for the duration of the contract (probably 25 years from when they were installed)

    Yes you get the free electricity, if you are there in the daytime to use it, otherwise it gets exported to the grid.

    If you go ahead, you are contracting (the deed) to allow them to continue using your roof for the remainder of the contract. So if you ever wanted to re tile the roof, you have a problem. You can't simply take them down either if for instance you don't like the look of them. And there will be certain rights they have about access to repair and maintain the panels and some other equipment.

    It might be "more hassle than it's worth" but there is nothing you can do. Buy the house with this burden in place, or don't buy it. There is sometimes a third option, that is to buy out the remainder of the contract, then they become your panels and you receive the remainder of the FIT payments for the rest of the contract. But that won't happen quickly either, and they might not even consider that option.
    Last edited by ProDave; 18-05-2017 at 3:51 PM. Reason: typo
    • z.j.c
    • By z.j.c 18th May 17, 4:00 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 4:00 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 4:00 PM
    Hi

    I have no problem with the panels being on the roof and A Shade Greener do all the repairs I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience getting the deed of variation from them and how long it takes.
    • Spazter
    • By Spazter 18th May 17, 9:35 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:35 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:35 PM
    We have just purchased a house with solar panels on from A Shade Greener.

    Our solicitor was a tad confused in what she was trying to get with a signed agreement for payments to be assigned to us by the vendors. After many emails and trying to explain to my solicitor that I didnt get any payments, 2 days from exchanging and nearly missing our second agreed exchange and completion dates, she finally spoke directly to A Shade Greeners legal team on the phone, agreed we just needed A Deed of Variation and agreed we could proceed to exchange!

    It certainly didn't take the 4 weeks once the solicitors realised what we needed but trying to get them to understand that we didn't get payments took over 4 weeks!
    • z.j.c
    • By z.j.c 19th May 17, 7:40 AM
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    • 19th May 17, 7:40 AM
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    • 19th May 17, 7:40 AM
    Hey

    Thanks for your comments it's reassuring once you had got over the payments issue you didn't have many other problems.

    The problem I have is my solicitor quoted 4 weeks for this deed of variation to be issued by A Shade Greener but then proceeded to tell me it's the sellers solicitors who need to arrange this deed.

    It's hard to get any updates now because if I want an update I need to email my solicitor who then emails the sellers and communication is taking ages.

    We have missed 2 exhange dates now because despite telling my solicitor they lease would need updating he didn't do anything until he received the lease and then proceeded to tell me it needed updating when I knew.

    I was a little jubious that it would take 4 weeks for a deed of variation. Think a few phone calls are needed today to find out why its taking so long.
    • Spazter
    • By Spazter 19th May 17, 10:22 PM
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    • 19th May 17, 10:22 PM
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    • 19th May 17, 10:22 PM
    Hope you managed to get some answers today. I thought ours was frustrating situation with missing just the one exchange date but now you have missed 2!

    I read many horror stories of the 'rent a roof' solar panels after we had started the purchase ball rolling from mortgage companies won't lend on properties with them to the companies being allowed free unagreed access to the property! I have found none of these problems and my mortgage company had no issues and A Shade Greener is one of the bigger approved companies that have all the regulations that are required.

    We get free electricity and in the contract one chance to remove the panels for free if we need to repair the roof. Hopefully we won't need to repair the roof anytime soon! Good luck and hope your solicitors pull their finger out!
    • z.j.c
    • By z.j.c 22nd May 17, 7:40 AM
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    • 22nd May 17, 7:40 AM
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    • 22nd May 17, 7:40 AM
    Managed to speak to the sellers of the house on Friday to see if we could find out what was going on.

    Turns out the hold up is A Shade Greener themselves. They haven't responded to the sellers solicitors request to update the lease.

    The sellers and the sellers solicitors have both been chasing them but no one is answering emails or responding to phone calls/voicemail's.

    All we need them to do is update the lease and its problem solved but it seems there not very responsive to anyone at the minute.

    I tried to get in touch with them myself Friday but had the exact same issues no one seems to want to answer the phone.
    • Spazter
    • By Spazter 23rd May 17, 11:00 PM
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    • 23rd May 17, 11:00 PM
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    • 23rd May 17, 11:00 PM
    Not sure what's happening then as A Shade Greener answered the vendors with all details required and also spoke directly to my solicitors.

    I know on the forum there was some posts on A Shade Greener where people couldn't contact them and someone posted another contact number. Sorry can't be of more help but I can't remember where other than I had done a search for A Shade Greener when I was researching issues with rent a roof solar panels.
    • Louise2212
    • By Louise2212 22nd Jun 17, 8:41 PM
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    • 22nd Jun 17, 8:41 PM
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    • 22nd Jun 17, 8:41 PM
    Hi, did you get your agreement sorted. I am also trying to purchase a property with a shade greener solar panels. Did you eventually get a contact number for the legal team apart from the generic customer number. Many thanks
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 22nd Jun 17, 9:00 PM
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    We get free electricity and in the contract one chance to remove the panels for free if we need to repair the roof. Hopefully we won't need to repair the roof anytime soon! Good luck and hope your solicitors pull their finger out!
    Originally posted by Spazter
    I have no problem with the panels being on the roof and A Shade Greener do all the repairs.
    Originally posted by z.j.c
    I have solar panels, never heard that they will help with roof repairs. Mine is a council house, at the moment, the panels are with 'Better homes Yorkshire'.
    • Spazter
    • By Spazter 22nd Jun 17, 9:03 PM
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    I have solar panels, never heard that they will help with roof repairs. Mine is a council house, at the moment, the panels are with 'Better homes Yorkshire'.
    Originally posted by sevenhills
    They don't help with roof repairs. What they will do is remove their panels for free, just the once in the term of the contract, so you can get on with roof repairs, which you pay for yourself, then they put the panels back.
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 22nd Jun 17, 10:35 PM
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    I have emailed the council asking for information.

    Better Homes Leeds is managed by the West Yorkshire Combined Authority, and utilises funding from the Government’s Green Deal and Energy Company Obligation (ECO) schemes.
    • 3card
    • By 3card 23rd Jun 17, 2:05 PM
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    I bought a property that also had Shade Greener panels fitted but it was a cash purchase.
    After a few weeks/months i approched the company to ask them what i needed to do and got no reply. After another month or so i emailed them to say i was presuming they no longer wanted the panels being as they was not replying and i was giving them 28 days from the date of the letter to confirm and if no response was forthcoming i would begin to remove the panels.


    I did get a reply back to say i didnt need to do anything other than give them a new contact number just in case there was a problem with the panels at anytime.


    I was buying the property as a BTL so i saw the panels as a positive and its worked great beacuse the lady of the tenant couple is a housewife so shes at home all day with discounted electric


    They told me that the contract is on the property and not the owners but i/m not convinced thats how it works becuase im sure someone signed the contract becuase the house cannot write!!
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 23rd Jun 17, 6:14 PM
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    They told me that the contract is on the property and not the owners but i/m not convinced thats how it works becuase im sure someone signed the contract becuase the house cannot write!!
    Originally posted by 3card
    I guess they put a deed of covenant in the deeds.
    • Kinbobs
    • By Kinbobs 2nd Aug 17, 7:07 AM
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    We are having the same problem with A Shade Greener. We have a first time buyer and we are not buying so it should have been fairly easy. we are now at 14 weeks and stuck because A Shade Greener are not getting back to the solicitors. Any ideas?
    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 2nd Aug 17, 8:25 AM
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    Try their twitter feed? Point out that behaviour like this doesn't do any good to future new sales because word gets out.
    • z.j.c
    • By z.j.c 4th Aug 17, 12:52 PM
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    Hey

    are you still having issues with ASG?
    • Kinbobs
    • By Kinbobs 5th Aug 17, 12:17 PM
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    Hi z.j.c
    We are still having problems. We have ground to a halt since 6th July. I think one issue is the FIT despite explaining it several times. The other thing is the access. The main problem is still A Shade Greener who just don't get back to anyone. Not sure what we can do. I have one very stressed husband.
    • z.j.c
    • By z.j.c 5th Aug 17, 2:07 PM
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    Hey kinbobs

    Sorry to hear your still having problems they caused a delay of 4 weeks on my purchase. I didn't have any trouble with the FIT as it goes directly to ASG it was the access and the removal of the panels at the mortgage companies request.

    Not sure if I can share contact details on here but if you would like some email's and phone numbers ill share them just PM me.

    I had to email the managing director and only then did I get action!
    • Kinbobs
    • By Kinbobs 5th Aug 17, 5:56 PM
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    Pleased to read you made it through the problems. Don't think we are ever going to get there. ASG don't help. Wish I had never allowed them to be put on my roof.
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