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    • greent
    • By greent 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
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    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 30th Dec 15, 12:31 PM
    KonMari 2016 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 30th Dec 15 at 12:31 PM
    Link to 2015: thread: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5146700


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.


    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.


    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.


    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.
    I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul
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    • pavlovs_dog
    • By pavlovs_dog 30th Dec 15, 4:26 PM
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    I have decided that my resolution for 2016 is to teach my OH how to fold things - it seems to be completely beyond him!

    I hope that by having a place for everything (and everything in it's place) 2016 will prove to be the year where I finally get into a flylady routine. At the very least, I'll be able to use my flying time for cleaning as opposed to having to tidy first. As I have resolved that 2016 will be the year where I kondo a stone or accept my new size, I haven't tackled clothing first. I am however reorganising our bedroom in the hope of making 2016 the year where we banish the floordrobe from our lives for good! Part of this has meant accepting that being female does not automatically entitle me to more than half of the storage space available to us in the bedroom! OH will be marginally tidier if he has a bit more room to store his clothes and manly gubbins.

    OH has a habit of keeping things here, there and everywhere. My mission is to have all clothing items contained to the bedroom by the end of the day.

    If anyone needs socks or trainers (in various stages of death and decay), OH has enough to shod a centipede. Please form an orderly queue...

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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 30th Dec 15, 4:30 PM
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    Lovely shiny new thread, thank you greent.

    I need someoneto translate I came, I saw, I kondo'd into Latin for me, as I feel that it's my mission.

    I have been out all morning visiting my lovely Nan, a mere slip of a girl at 92.5 years old. Also saw one of my aunties. We said hello to another auntie as we passed the churchyard, as is our tradition.

    Another kitchen cupboard has been kondo'd successfully. A double-width wall unit was gutted onto the table top and wiped out. Mum came in to arbitrate and two boxes of Stuff are now ready for the chazzer and what is in there is neat and clean and accessible.

    Folks are very pleased. So will the chazzers be early next year. I now must go to dine on finest sausages and a beer - veg will also feature, we're not barbarians here, you know.

    Happy Kondo-ing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • greent
    • By greent 30th Dec 15, 4:33 PM
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    As an admin of MK Facebook group we have had lots of people koi recently which is great. Thank you for starting a new thread
    Originally posted by mummyroysof3

    I'm an admin on the facebook group, too

    I think the posts at the top of the thread are a great idea.

    My suggestions for this post are: <snipped>
    Originally posted by katsu

    fab - thank you - will add to post 4

    Can I just add in a fabulous charity called Nowzad Dogs with regard to the used bras.

    The link is here
    Originally posted by Rainy-Days

    Fab - will also add






    All suggestions welcomed!


    x
    I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul
    Repaid mtge early (orig 11/25) Bal 01/09 £124616 01/10 £104927 01/11 £89873 01/12 £76317 01/13 £52546 01/14 £35356 01/15 £12133 07/15 £NIL
    Next: BTL Mtge 12/16 £69786. 2017 OPs (#18) £4607/£3286
    Net sales 2017 £1202.80/£500 PAYDOX17 £11635/£10k Decluttered 1650/2017 items
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 30th Dec 15, 4:53 PM
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    fuddle
    Please can I say thanks for the new thread. I have popped in to the older one often but never quite understood what it was that it was all about. I would wander to Pinterest to try to learn but never really gathered much info. I've learned more from page 1 of this thread than anything I have read elsewhere.

    mummyroysof3 I think you've just given me permission to join the fb page. Thanks

    Can I give a thought about what I think it's about but struggle to come to a conclusion? I bought a sieve from £1 shop. I liked it, pastel handle, a bit nostalgic looking. I now don't like it. It's rusting very quickly. It causes me anxiety with regard to food items touching it. I can't pass it on because of those anxieties being inflicted on others so I find I must discard. Not good. I now need to replace with a better quality sieve which will probably cost more money than the original.

    I'm trying to find a positive in all this but I can't. How would you all think about this situation?
    Good enough is good enough.

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    • greent
    • By greent 30th Dec 15, 5:01 PM
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    Can I give a thought about what I think it's about but struggle to come to a conclusion? I bought a sieve from £1 shop. I liked it, pastel handle, a bit nostalgic looking. I now don't like it. It's rusting very quickly. It causes me anxiety with regard to food items touching it. I can't pass it on because of those anxieties being inflicted on others so I find I must discard. Not good. I now need to replace with a better quality sieve which will probably cost more money than the original.

    I'm trying to find a positive in all this but I can't. How would you all think about this situation?
    Originally posted by fuddle


    I believe that the part you take away from this is learning (?) - possibly that sometimes we have to pay more for an item. Feel free to discard it without any further concern on your part - it has played its part in your life. You cannot pass it on, it has to go. Sometimes that is the case and there is nothing we can do.
    x


    Am sure others can add more/ say it better/ disagree with me!
    I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul
    Repaid mtge early (orig 11/25) Bal 01/09 £124616 01/10 £104927 01/11 £89873 01/12 £76317 01/13 £52546 01/14 £35356 01/15 £12133 07/15 £NIL
    Next: BTL Mtge 12/16 £69786. 2017 OPs (#18) £4607/£3286
    Net sales 2017 £1202.80/£500 PAYDOX17 £11635/£10k Decluttered 1650/2017 items
    • Eyeore
    • By Eyeore 30th Dec 15, 5:09 PM
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    Ooo new thread, thanks greent!

    Happy New Year everyone, busy kondoing here, lots going to the chazzers ��
    2017 - buy less, kondo more!
    • pollys
    • By pollys 30th Dec 15, 5:11 PM
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    Fuddle, if an item is no longer fit for purpose I throw it out. I use sieves quite often, I need one that is in good condition.
    If you really don't want to get rid can it be used for something else a plant perhaps?
    Polly
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    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 30th Dec 15, 5:16 PM
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    Greenbee: re blocking up the door. For now, could you lock the door and put a piece of furniture in front of it to see whether you like it blocked? Just something from Freegle will do for now, which can be recycled at the end of the experiment. You may find you don't like it blocked!
    Also, try a halogen oven. Compact, easy to clean, cheaper than a cooker. I've roasted ducks, big chickens, sides of beef in mine. Fab device.
    Originally posted by Fen1
    Thanks Fen I've put furniture in front of the door on both sides, and it's actually not annoying me. I'll see what it's like when other people are here... Lots more space in the kitchen, and a bit more exercise

    I've come up with a plan for the kitchen, and am currently investigating options. I'm looking at putting in a refurbished AGA - and an electric oven and a (bottled) gas hob. I like cooking I'm just trying to work out whether oil or electric is the best option for an AGA. And don't try to persuade me not to get one, I LOVE them, and have missed having one, so have been saving up (plus it can go in ages before the rest of the kitchen as it doesn't need to be built in, and the concrete plinth has to be done before the floor anyway). I do have a spare chimney from where the boiler was removed, so that's not an issue.

    I have practically no storage or worksurface in the kitchen as it is, but when it is eventually done will have plenty of both. It just seems to be taking a long time to get there...
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 30th Dec 15, 5:28 PM
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    Very much appreciated. I'm getting it and think I need kondo-ing in my life

    I will discard the sieve and make do with my colander. That is 12 years old and still in the same condition as when I bought it. I only see a problem with straining rice but I will research a better brand and invest come DH's pay day.

    I do still suffer from the mentality of 'that'll do, that's a bargain' although I have made great in roads in the investment mentality.

    For my start I think i'll look through my pj's. Any old t-shirts or leisure wear gets put into my nightwear collection. It's vast and doesn't particularly fill me with happiness for snuggly relaxed nights.
    Good enough is good enough.

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    • purpleposting4
    • By purpleposting4 30th Dec 15, 5:30 PM
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    Thank you for the add to the FB group! Will continue to lurk and then show my face every once in a while!
    I feel 2016 will be a good year for Kondoing and I hope that it helps me with my anxiety etc. Hope everyone has a very Happy New Year!
    • dingdongsaving
    • By dingdongsaving 30th Dec 15, 6:10 PM
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    Thank you! I love new January threads. So much potential.
    • Knit Witch
    • By Knit Witch 30th Dec 15, 6:29 PM
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    Also now in the fb group , oh and at the moment all I am Kondoing are tissues and mugs of tea!
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    • grandmasam
    • By grandmasam 30th Dec 15, 6:31 PM
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    Long time lurker here. I've been following and love reading everyone's journey on the KM road!

    Thanks for the shiny new thread greent, and also the link to the fb group,for which I've just been approved, every little helps, as the ad says!!

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    • MandM90
    • By MandM90 30th Dec 15, 6:41 PM
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    I've pretty much finished KonMari'ing, in that there are no more big clear outs to do but I do find it a continuous process (and struggle against well meaning grandparents who love to buy pink plastic!)

    Just had an OSer pop up on my FB newsfeed on the UK KM group which is nice!

    One thing I do struggle with particularly is DDs grandmother who constantly buys her new clothes and toys. I've made it quite clear I hate clutter and she knows I have a tiny house but the stuff keeps arriving, and DD gets distressed when I suggest chucking any of it and "tells" on me!!!
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 30th Dec 15, 7:14 PM
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    Thank you so much for the new thread and all the links at the beginning.

    U.K. American - thank you for your inspiring post about "closure". Reading it was very timely for me.

    I lost my darling husband in August 2014 and my mum just 7 months later. Sorting Through their effects has been a marathon. Still not finished. There are some items that I have been very undecided about. I know it sounds daft but I have been experiencing feelings of guilt over some of the items but I know it's better to release them rather than have them stuffed away in cupboards.

    Deep down I Know I will feel better when it's all done. My aim is to be completely finished by the end of 2016.

    Onwards and upwards.
    • msgnomey
    • By msgnomey 30th Dec 15, 7:15 PM
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    I have a confession to make

    On Christmas eve I looked at DDs present pile and thought OMG not enough, no stocking fillers, so I dashed into town and ALMOST filled a bag with tat, BUT I managed to find enough consumables and useful things to fill a stocking. Lip salve, hair bobbles, fold up hair brush etc

    PHEW

    I did promise myself that there would be no more mad panic buying at 4.30pm on Christmas Eve
    Arrrrrrr
    Go hopefully into each new day, enjoy something from every day no matter how small, you never know when it will be your last
    • jinny
    • By jinny 30th Dec 15, 7:17 PM
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    Lovely new thread lets hope we get more Konverts in the new year
    I think the old thread really started by the op as a discussion about the book. I'm so glad I clicked on the link. I had that much stuff I didn't even realise I had already bought the book. I discovered this when I tried to buy it again on kindle!
    There were links to vids on yoo toob to get the jist and a pininterest board was set up.
    I think you have to read the book to get hooked on this magic
    It's been said before iits like you get hypnotised.
    I don't do Facebook but it's good that people will get inspired on there.
    Thank you for the first post on the new thread. It's very encouraging
    Just think we about to kondo 2015 so good luck and if you keep following the thread for inspiration your 2016 will truelly be magical and life changing.

    Edit just to say I haven't spent any money in the shops since 23rd December
    That's got to be a record for me. I didn't get a lot in groceries I literally had to go out today for supplies. Love me no spend days
    Last edited by jinny; 30-12-2015 at 7:22 PM.
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    • weesmiler
    • By weesmiler 30th Dec 15, 7:31 PM
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    Hi,

    Thank you greent for the new thread. I posted occasionally last year, but will aim to be more active on the thread in the new year I am very slowly kondoing categories around the house, but am limited to my wee one's nap times! I return to work in April when my maternity leave finishes and I would like to be finished kondoing by then.

    I'm also on the Facebook group

    I must admit, I have been sales shopping. I love to shop and have a lot of clothes, but I have become very aware of what brings me joy and what doesn't. I have bought all of my DS's clothes/vest/sleepsuits in the next size up - all half price, and a couple of items for my return to work. I will be returning to a slight promotion and will be more office based, so a couple of smarter items were needed. I have all of my Christmas cards and wrapping paper for next year and plenty of the toiletries I love to last me a while.

    Here's to a very joyful 2016 for all of us!!

    Weesmiler xx
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    • jinny
    • By jinny 30th Dec 15, 7:33 PM
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    Greent
    Just spotted the links for donations that's fantastic thank you so much.
    Pour yourself a drink, put on some lipstick
    and pull yourself together - Elizabeth Taylor
    • drusilla
    • By drusilla 30th Dec 15, 7:37 PM
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    Thanks for the new thread greens. I started my kondo journey last January. It is still not finished as real life got in the way but like so many people on here, I have done a lot. Clothes generally bring me joy- more functional than beautiful but better than being naked.

    The really wonderful thing is that the rest of the family are sort of on board. Hopefully, this year we will get to my vision of a tidy well organised home that I feel happy for the gas man to wander around poking radiators.

    Good luck to everyone on their journey this year.
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