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    • MSE Eesha
    • By MSE Eesha 18th Sep 15, 12:29 PM
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    The hidden reason Amazon is paying Clarkson & co so much for Top Gear
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    • 18th Sep 15, 12:29 PM
    The hidden reason Amazon is paying Clarkson & co so much for Top Gear 18th Sep 15 at 12:29 PM
    This is the discussion to link on the back of Martin's blog. Please read the blog first, as this discussion follows it.





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    • nomoneytoday
    • By nomoneytoday 18th Sep 15, 5:19 PM
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    • 18th Sep 15, 5:19 PM
    Maybe they could also buy something like Corrie, thus gaining millions of customers
    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 18th Sep 15, 10:16 PM
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    • 18th Sep 15, 10:16 PM
    Ha! I'd never really thought about it, but that's a very erudite analysis. It certainly makes sense.

    I don't watch much TV (or like Top Gear), and I don't mind waiting a whole two days or so (eek!) for deliveries, so Amazon Prime has never appealed to me.
    • lonestar1
    • By lonestar1 19th Sep 15, 9:44 AM
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    • 19th Sep 15, 9:44 AM
    Don't forget the official merchandise all exclusive to amazon
    • Kite2010
    • By Kite2010 23rd Sep 15, 6:19 PM
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    • 23rd Sep 15, 6:19 PM
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    • 23rd Sep 15, 6:19 PM
    Don't forget the official merchandise all exclusive to amazon
    Originally posted by lonestar1
    Although the merchandise will be for the new show rather than "Top Gear" which will probably have more of a brand awareness value.

    I agree, if you have forked out £79 to be an Amazon Prime member (although how more popular would it be if Amazon did a monthly prime membership for say £7.99 a month?) you will most likely try and get your moneys worth with free delivery.
    • walkingtimebomb
    • By walkingtimebomb 24th Sep 15, 10:53 PM
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    • 24th Sep 15, 10:53 PM
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    • 24th Sep 15, 10:53 PM
    Following the tax evasion issue and the revelations that they treat their warehouse staff pretty awfully, the recent New York Times expose that revealed they also treat their office staff abominably was the last straw for me. I'd rather not support an organisation that I'm now fully aware exploits its workers even more so than other major corporations, so I'm cutting ties with them.

    The next-day Prime delivery is just instilling a sense in the consumer that they need it so they must have it. Is it really that important if it takes a couple of days longer for that book or blu-ray to arrive? When I had Prime as a paying member, my next-day book deliveries would often sit there for over a week before I even cracked the book's spine. I decided I couldn't justify indirectly making other people's lives a misery just to have a book arrive on the off-chance I might want to start reading it 24 hours after ordering it.
    • Futuristic
    • By Futuristic 26th Sep 15, 6:44 AM
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    • 26th Sep 15, 6:44 AM
    Following the tax evasion issue and the revelations that they treat their warehouse staff pretty awfully, the recent New York Times expose that revealed they also treat their office staff abominably was the last straw for me. I'd rather not support an organisation that I'm now fully aware exploits its workers even more so than other major corporations, so I'm cutting ties with them.

    The next-day Prime delivery is just instilling a sense in the consumer that they need it so they must have it. Is it really that important if it takes a couple of days longer for that book or blu-ray to arrive? When I had Prime as a paying member, my next-day book deliveries would often sit there for over a week before I even cracked the book's spine. I decided I couldn't justify indirectly making other people's lives a misery just to have a book arrive on the off-chance I might want to start reading it 24 hours after ordering it.
    Originally posted by walkingtimebomb

    I assume you also don't buy anything from China/India and every other mass manufacturing country then? Including but not limited to everything. Shoes, clothes, electronics.

    Do you really think their working conditions are better than Amazons?

    For me Amazon is great and easy, easily best customer service out there and live chat option. For example, I would never touch eBuyer who reward staff for refusing returns for any reason they can think of.
    • XRAT
    • By XRAT 23rd Nov 16, 8:19 AM
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    • 23rd Nov 16, 8:19 AM
    New to Prime
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    • 23rd Nov 16, 8:19 AM
    I'm not a great TV watcher, I don't have any paid for channels and I'm not that keen on Top Gear (as it was) but my children are and I have been known to watch with them and even be amused on occasion. I frequently use catch-up TV to watch something of interest at my convenience.
    I've never been prepared to pay for shopping delivery, and am happy to wait until I have sufficient items combined, in order to qualify for the 'minimum £20 spend' for free delivery. All of which makes me an unlikely candidate for "Prime."
    I am after all "a money saver."
    HOWEVER... GT and £57 (little over £1/week) for a year's subscription was enough to tip the balance for me to try it. Not least because what is shown on TV is so dire that the streaming service might be of use.
    It will be interesting at the end of the year to see whether I renew the subscription.


    Declaration of interest: I do have a small holding of Amazon shares in my SIPP.
    (My eternal thanks to DunstonH for the advice on this site about SIPPs and the tax savings to be made.)
    • babystep
    • By babystep 24th Nov 16, 5:34 PM
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    • 24th Nov 16, 5:34 PM
    Count the pennies
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    • 24th Nov 16, 5:34 PM
    I am a Prime member,and I do shop elsewhere and I am seriously reconsidering re joining next year.I cannot stand Clarkson and hate to think I am helping keep this person on TV.If,as I am sure you have done,you add up over the year,the 5p here and 50p there that you pay extra for your goods on Prime I found it not very good value for money ....then I discovered Kodi so Amazon Prime now seems a little overpriced and outdated!
    • GingerBob
    • By GingerBob 24th Nov 16, 11:01 PM
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    I'm a BOABE - Browse on Amazon, Buy Elsewhere. Amazon's website is great, but if I can do so I'll go to another website to buy (and not via an Amazon referral). For books you can nearly always buy cheaper at Books Etc.
    • Lorian
    • By Lorian 24th Nov 16, 11:10 PM
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    Prime used to be good as everything we ordered would be tracked and delivered very well by DPD. Until they switched to Amazon Logistics a couple of moths ago, and now it's like getting stuff delivered by HDNL again.

    Today I was sat at home and got a note from the amazon app to say my parcel had been delivered.

    Strange. No door bell.

    Nothing in the preferred safe place

    Ah found it - had been left leaning against the gate.....
    • phillw
    • By phillw 28th Nov 16, 5:46 PM
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    I cannot stand Clarkson and hate to think I am helping keep this person on TV.
    Originally posted by babystep
    I personally wouldn't class amazon prime as TV, so IMO you're keeping him off TV. If he wasn't signed up to amazon then they would have gone to ITV/CH4 or CH5.

    The reason amazon paid them so much is because it's a very expensive programme to make. Clarkson, May and Hammond aren't doing it for charity, but it's not just divided between them. It's keeping other people in work too & a lot of the people working on the programme are from the UK. So don't feel too bad.

    Amazon obviously hope that in the long term that it will increase the number of people signing up for amazon prime, but it's not that much money for them to take a punt and fail.
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 28th Nov 16, 5:53 PM
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    Amazon has 10x the amount of quality that the BBC has these days. Great delivery, music, cloud storage, pantry, tv and superb service- its fantastic value, I'm on the verge of giving up my tv licence.
    "Only two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe"
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    • sportsarb
    • By sportsarb 29th Nov 16, 7:17 AM
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    I really hate Clarkson, he makes me want to punish Amazon by taking business elsewhere, but hopefully once the initial hype dies down his odious presence will be dropped from their marketing one the main site.

    I've been a long term Prime member since shortly after it arrived, it's been very handy having next day delivery form the most part, given I hate having stuff left with neighbours I could generally be assured I would be at home when delivery was made. With other big companies your left at the mercy of an unspecified delivery window.

    While not strictly prime related, their returns system is pretty excellent, I'm yet to be frustrated with it.

    There's also the fact that without even trying you can generally get Prime effectively for free. Complain when something goes wrong and it will be extended. Cancel altogether and you might get a refund.

    It does hold true though that I tied myself to them because of Prime but I got benefit from it too.

    I've probably bought everything now so it might be time to quit it...........then they introduced Twitch Prime as a benefit.
    • Prinzessilein
    • By Prinzessilein 29th Nov 16, 8:45 AM
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    I am a Prime member....I am disabled and my Mum is an OAP - we 'share' a Prime subscription.

    Next-Day Delivery (although Amazon Logistics are a !!!! service!) is a definite plus....I have a Kindle Fire and watch films and TV shows as part of the subscription...plus I listen to oodles of music as part of the package...

    We find that Prime suits us and is well worth the yearly subscription.

    And yes, I have watched the Grand Tour....would I have joined Prime just for it? Probably not....but it is terrific fun and I will continue to watch each week.
    • sportsarb
    • By sportsarb 29th Nov 16, 10:36 AM
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    I've just cancelled Prime in an effort to reduce my reliance on them. Will see how long I last. Some of the delivery drivers are pretty good looking.
    • lr1277
    • By lr1277 29th Nov 16, 11:32 AM
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    I choose Amazon because of the range of goods/books. Also I trust my (credit card) details are stored securely on their servers. Not sure I can say that for every other internet retailer.

    I choose Prime because of the pretty quick delivery and the fact they will 75% of the time deliver to one of their locations as opposed to my home address. So I can go and retrieve the items at my leisure.
    • pennyforthem
    • By pennyforthem 17th Jan 17, 7:05 PM
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    I became a prime member when they had a £59 offer, this was for several reasons. Difficulty getting things from the shops, not having to reach £20, a free book to read each month, music, movies and finding out I could earn money off by not having next day delivery I thought would make it nearly pay for itself.
    It has however been a big let down ! I can not read any books as I do not own a kindle and if I did I would be able to read as many as I wanted so what is the point ?
    The music is very limited and I have not even tried it yet as I am so !!!!ed by all the other things.
    I did not realise the movies had time limits etc and have missed ones that I thought I would be able to watch.
    The money that I am earning is only towards watching videos which I get for free anyway I cannot actually put it towards eg buying an actually video, a book not even a chuffing ebook (I hate those things but thought I was getting one a month to try before I buy) I have got my calandar well and truly marked to cancel on time ! Compleat and utter waiste of money !
    • RichardD1970
    • By RichardD1970 18th Jan 17, 4:51 PM
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    Although the merchandise will be for the new show rather than "Top Gear" which will probably have more of a brand awareness value.

    I agree, if you have forked out £79 to be an Amazon Prime member (although how more popular would it be if Amazon did a monthly prime membership for say £7.99 a month?) you will most likely try and get your moneys worth with free delivery.
    Originally posted by Kite2010
    Reading this thread reminded me to check when my subscription renews and the £7.99 a month is an option.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 19th Jan 17, 6:48 AM
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    Reading this thread reminded me to check when my subscription renews and the £7.99 a month is an option.
    Originally posted by RichardD1970

    Was it an option 2 years ago when they posted?
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