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    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 2nd Jul 15, 3:29 PM
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    Fake MSE sites
    • #1
    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:29 PM
    Fake MSE sites 2nd Jul 15 at 3:29 PM
    Hi everyone,

    In light of recent sites mirroring or closely copying our site and forum, we're setting up this thread for you to come and tell us about any more that pop up.

    To do this can you please include...

    Name/URL of the site:
    Any other info (Does it have nasty looking pop ups? etc):

    We'll keep an eye on this thread and let the Tech team know about any fake sites.

    Thank you!
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    • fermi
    • By fermi 2nd Jul 15, 3:36 PM
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    • #2
    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:36 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:36 PM
    The 2 that I know have already been reported to MSE recently are



    Not really much of an idea what malware, ads, popups they are serving as I have most things blocked.
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    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 2nd Jul 15, 3:40 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:40 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:40 PM
    Brill, thanks fermi. Yep, we're aware of those two and are working on them but it's great to have them listed here.
    • canterswest
    • By canterswest 2nd Jul 15, 3:55 PM
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    • #4
    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:55 PM
    Big
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 3:55 PM
    I have seen bigmoneysaving as a URL a lot, can't remember if I ever clicked on it. What is it?

    I thought that moneysupermarket was planning ahead for when Martin Lewis has been paid off and that the forum would then be on the big URL.

    Why is Martin Lewis trying to start ridiculous memes on Twitter today and fronting Scam Awareness week for CAB instead of focusing on this website.

    PS Megan has sent me a private message, I do not open PMs ever please reply here so everyone can read it. On Twitter, people are reporting problems with the site and moneysavingexpert Twitter account says it is a pesky bug.
    Last edited by canterswest; 02-07-2015 at 4:09 PM. Reason: PS
    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 2nd Jul 15, 4:16 PM
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    • #5
    • 2nd Jul 15, 4:16 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 4:16 PM
    Yep bigmoneysaving is one of the sites we're aware of.

    Not sure what you mean about the URL? As for Martin's twitter, he does loads of work with charities outside of MSE and his twitter is his own to make memes with

    Yes, I sent you a PM to give you a chance to have a chat, as I've noticed you seem to have some issues in a lot of your posts and I thought I might be able to clear some things up. Happy to answer whatever questions you have.

    I tweet from the MSE account, but I'm not sure exactly what bug you're talking about here? Let me know and I'll look into it.
    • canterswest
    • By canterswest 2nd Jul 15, 4:29 PM
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    • #6
    • 2nd Jul 15, 4:29 PM
    Pesky bug
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 4:29 PM
    https://twitter.com/MoneySavingExp/status/616615614497562624


    What is bigmoneysaving?


    I think I have seen it in Google searches possible where lots of results are to a URL saying bigmoneysaving


    I incorrectly thought it must be a URL set up by moneysupermarket to transfer the forum onto.


    I am not a techie.
    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 2nd Jul 15, 4:39 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 4:39 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 15, 4:39 PM
    Ah right. That was a server issue today that's already been sorted.

    That site is an exact clone of MSE and we're working with our Legal and Tech team to see what we can do about it. Nope, it's nothing to do with MSE or MoneySupermarket, it's a third party. These sites do pop up and they can look really convincing. We want to make sure no one logs in to a fake site as your details could be compromised there.
    • canterswest
    • By canterswest 3rd Jul 15, 10:06 AM
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    • #8
    • 3rd Jul 15, 10:06 AM
    Google index and links
    • #8
    • 3rd Jul 15, 10:06 AM
    Hello Megan, Have you complained to Google as it was definitely seeing loads of results on Google to big money that implied to me it was an official, trusted url. Hence, I thought it was a new url registered by moneysupermarket that would become the url for the forum after Martin Lewis' earn out is completed in September (I know he has not said he will leave then, and says he is likely to stay on, however, you never know).


    On the problem with links, a number of posters took the time to alert MSe to a possible problem. This was very valuable information, I would guess, as the sooner you are aware the better.


    What seem to be the first posts about links not working as usual directed to MSE were on this thread from Upsidedown Bear and StumpyPumpy and myself


    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5278038&page=2#topofpage


    It is a small point, but a board guide then set up a new thread about links not working which was helpful, but it was shame that they did not credit their source. MSE should encourage board guides to always quote where their information came from otherwise it might dissuade posters from trying to help.
    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 3rd Jul 15, 11:04 AM
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    • 3rd Jul 15, 11:04 AM
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    • 3rd Jul 15, 11:04 AM
    I'll have a word with our search team about those links, thanks for pointing it out.

    I'm sure they would have credited if they saw it. They work really hard for us and I'm sure they just overlooked it. At the end of the day, as long as it gets reported and sorted, it doesn't really matter who reported it first.
    • canterswest
    • By canterswest 3rd Jul 15, 11:12 AM
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    Testing
    I think it very likely they did see it as it was after three of us posted about the problem that the BG in direct response posted a number of tests in the same thread. Did you read the link I included in my last post (assuming it is working correctly).

    We'll have to agree to differ on the importance of crediting your source of information. It has been around for a few thousand years, crediting where information comes from, long before MSE's new way of not crediting which I do not support.

    PS there is a thread on link errors, if you look in the Site section of the forum. As I said, this was helpfully started by a BG, but the original source hat led the BG to set up the thread were not credited. Small but important point. the BG has thanked your post but not mine, obviously.
    Last edited by canterswest; 03-07-2015 at 11:19 AM. Reason: PS
    • fermi
    • By fermi 3rd Jul 15, 11:30 AM
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    At the end of the day, as long as it gets reported and sorted, it doesn't really matter who reported it first.
    Originally posted by MSE Megan
    Exactly. In fact it had been mentioned in more than one place by that point. I'm happy with what I did and how I did it.
    I'm a Board Guide on the Debt-Free Wannabe, Bankruptcy, Credit Cards and Loans boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge threads there. Any views are mine and not the official line of moneysavingexpert.com. Board guides are not moderators. If you spot an inappropriate or illegal post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com

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    • canterswest
    • By canterswest 3rd Jul 15, 11:51 AM
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    Source
    The important point is MSE is aware, I agree, and I have said it was helpful you set a thread up.

    However, if it is important that MSE is aware, then those who first brought it to the attention of MSE should be thanked, which you decided not to do.

    There was another thread here

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5278347&highlight=mse

    I only became aware of this thread today. If you had seen it when it was first posted, I believe you would have posted a link to your thread far earlier. In fact you posted on this thread not until 5.52pm, after you started your thread at 5.18pm. My relevant posts were 4.17pm and 4.49pm and your reply was 5.06pm.

    I agree it makes sense to have all responses on one thread to give MSE max support to fix the problem. This is my final post on this and I remain of the view that properly crediting the source of your information is best.
    • fermi
    • By fermi 3rd Jul 15, 11:53 AM
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    We want to make sure no one logs in to a fake site as your details could be compromised there.
    Originally posted by MSE Megan
    Yes, there was another last year.

    See: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5074101

    Seems offline now fortunately.

    Thank you canterswest for telling me exactly what I read and saw at what time.

    Your analysis on that happens to be wrong. I remain of the view that I know what I did, when, and why, and I am happy with that.
    Last edited by fermi; 03-07-2015 at 12:12 PM.
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    • StumpyPumpy
    • By StumpyPumpy 3rd Jul 15, 12:48 PM
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    Just for the record: I have never felt the need to be personally validated for anything I post on these forums. As an adult I prefer to be treated as an adult and don't need pats on the head at regular intervals to stop me running off in a huff.

    SP
    Come on people, it's not difficult: lose means to be unable to find, loose means not being fixed in place. So if you have a hole in your pocket you might lose your loose change.
    • Tixy
    • By Tixy 3rd Jul 15, 12:51 PM
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    Do you also want to know about sites that are reproducing text/ threads from the MSE forum?

    If so http://lawyer-consultation.net/
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    • Upsidedown Bear
    • By Upsidedown Bear 3rd Jul 15, 1:05 PM
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    Just for the record: I have never felt the need to be personally validated for anything I post on these forums. As an adult I prefer to be treated as an adult and don't need pats on the head at regular intervals to stop me running off in a huff.

    SP
    Originally posted by StumpyPumpy
    I was going to thank your post but thought I'd give you this instead

    The Devil whispered in my ear "You are not strong enough to withstand the storm".
    Today I whispered in the Devil's ear "I am the storm".
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    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 3rd Jul 15, 3:58 PM
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    Do you also want to know about sites that are reproducing text/ threads from the MSE forum?

    If so http://lawyer-consultation.net/
    Originally posted by Tixy
    Yes, that would be great - thank you!
    • Oblivion
    • By Oblivion 3rd Aug 15, 8:49 PM
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    Are the fake sites faster than this one?
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    • Tigsteroonie
    • By Tigsteroonie 3rd Aug 15, 8:57 PM
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    Are the fake sites faster than this one?
    Originally posted by Oblivion
    I was wondering whether I'd find all the PPR'd posters over on the fake forum
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    • Former MSE Megan
    • By Former MSE Megan 24th Aug 15, 4:25 PM
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    Hi everyone,

    We've just had another report of a clone site come in today

    http://adealaday.org/

    Please be careful to check the URL before entering any details or clicking any links.

    Thanks,
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