Multiple applications......the results

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  • TheShape
    TheShape Posts: 1,779 Forumite
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    OP,

    100 people, each with the same Experian Credit Score, apply for the same credit card.

    If the Experian Credit Score is the determining factor either:

    a) all 100 will be accepted or;

    b) all 100 will be declined.

    If the result is anything other than a or b, how do you explain the result?
  • Ficofuture
    Ficofuture Posts: 28 Forumite
    edited 7 September 2017 at 11:48AM
    I was 90% eligible for Lloyds and Santander, yet was declined !, because of the high number of searches prior !

    Had i done 1 in isolation , on the balance of probability, i would most likely been accepted

    This is about multiple applications and what happens..........what actually happens when you do it

    The score is one part of the story, income and many other things are taken into account

    One lender may not favour the self employed

    Virgin dont like ANY searches in the last 6 months for example

    MBNA are very keen for Lloyds customers.........

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  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    Ficofuture wrote: »
    Yes, and you fit their criteria...........or the bank used Call Credit or Equifax ?

    The score is an insight, a snapshot, why is everyone so scared by them ?

    There will be mistakes, but Experian is a multi billion pound company, im quite sure they have come up with a scoring system that is accurate to acceptable percentage levels



    My Equifax score is poor too, and noodle is Call Credit. There is no mistake they don't see the scores, they used their own scoring based on the information they had access to via both their own records and the CRA's


    No-one is scared of them but people
    A) shouldn't pay for them
    B) should not put much stock in them
  • TheShape wrote: »
    OP,

    100 people, each with the same Experian Credit Score, apply for the same credit card.

    If the Experian Credit Score is the determining factor either:

    a) all 100 will be accepted or;

    b) all 100 will be declined.

    If the result is anything other than a or b, how do you explain the result?
    Voodoo might be the easiest answer ?
  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    Ficofuture wrote: »
    I gave my own example for that reason !!!
    I was 90% eligible for Lloyds and Santander, yet was declined !, because of the high number of searches prior !

    Had i done 1 in isolation , on the balance of probability, i would most likely been accepted

    This is about multiple applications and what happens..........what actually happens when you do it

    The score is one part of the story, income and many other things are taken into account

    One lender may not favour the self employed

    Virgin dont like ANY searches in the last 6 months for example

    MBNA are very keen for Lloyds customers.........

    The point is, this anti score mindset is very blinkered, and i can only see its coming from people with a chip on their shoulder..................maybe their wife ran off with the cool dude from Call Credit ?



    When deciding credit the score is NO part of the story, lenders don't see it, Why aren't you getting this?
  • Whats wrong with paying for the most up to date information ?

    Last months Financial Times is no use to me today.........

    If you are worrying about £14.99, stoozing is not for you
  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    Ficofuture wrote: »
    Whats wrong with paying for the most up to date information ?

    Last months Financial Times is no use to me today.........

    If you are worrying about £14.99, stoozing is not for you



    You work for Experian don't you?
  • When deciding credit the score is NO part of the story, lenders don't see it, Why aren't you getting this?
    They see what the score reflects, its much easier for us to understand as a number, on a scale.........what is so wrong with that ?

    This must be a cultural thing, or people like to think they have inside info, and think its cool to say,
    "Ignore it, its made up"

    Its not cool. its sad
  • I work for myself...working for others is a mugs game
  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    Ficofuture wrote: »
    They see what the score reflects, its much easier for us to understand as a number, on a scale.........what is so wrong with that ?

    This must be a cultural thing, or people like to think they have inside info, and think its cool to say,
    "Ignore it, its made up"

    Its not cool. its sad



    Experian gives you a score


    Lenders give you a score


    they aren't the same, which one do you think matters?
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