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Would you use a solicitor or a conveyancer?

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  • digp
    digp Posts: 2,013 Forumite
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    Solicitor. Pref in the city.
  • clairefun
    clairefun Posts: 225 Forumite
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    I have my solicitor dealing with both my sale & my purchase. My buyer is also using the same compnay, but a different branch. It's quite useful for us as everything is linked and all in one place, and I'm able to ring & check up on how our purchase is going (smoothly, so far!) AND how our sale is going (less smoothly thanks to nervous buyer but still okay...). Plus I find it tricky to keep track of all the different agents & soliciors & surveyors and all that kind of thing, so it's one less thing to worry about.

    Hope this helps! :)
  • mrsc_4
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    We used a conveyancer, we had issues with her but in the end she got the job done, our buyer used another conveyancer at the same practice and this worked very well speeded things up considerably.

    Our Vendor however used a solicitor who "specalised" in property (according to his website many other things he specalises in as well) and he was TERRIBLE!

    When it comes to choosing someone to represent you I would ask friends and family for recommendations as well as doing your own research.
    House purchase completed 6th December whole process took 4 months.

    Hang in there everyone it is worth it
  • ginandtonic1988
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    Well further to everyones comments I think that I shall just pack in my job and go home cause I must be doing a crap job!!

    A solicitor cannot act on both sides of a transaction, he would only be able to if both clients were related or existing clients. Conveyancers can act on both sides of transaction if they have more than one office and the same rule applies for both related and exisiting clients.

    Alot of solicitors in my town have no qualifications except experiance under their belt yet the conveyancers I work for have 2 Licenced Conveyancers 1 Limited Conveyancer and we have another 5 members of staff due to qualify in the next year or so more qualified staff then most solicitors! Another point to add as well that solicitors are regulated by the Law Society whereas Conveyancers are regulated by the Council for Licenced Conveyancers who in fact are far stricter, have far more rules and check up on Conveyancers far more than the Law Society does on solicitors.
  • Milky_Mocha
    Milky_Mocha Posts: 1,064 Forumite
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    Madjock wrote:
    don't think that's what Milky means. You can have the same solicitor deal with both your sale and purchase, and it is usually more effective.

    Thanks Madjock, yes I mean one solicitor deal with my sale and purchase, not acting for both sides.
    The reason people don't move right down inside the carriage is that there's nothing to hold onto when you're in the middle.
  • Milky_Mocha
    Milky_Mocha Posts: 1,064 Forumite
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    DavidHM wrote:
    Incidentally £720 seems pretty although it depends where you are in the country.

    Do you mean pretty high or pretty low?

    He's just quoted me for my purchase and its fairly similar to the sale price - just under £800 including VAT plus search costs on top, bringing it to about £1200 in total.

    This is in Kent.
    The reason people don't move right down inside the carriage is that there's nothing to hold onto when you're in the middle.
  • manhead
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    Anyone any tales of horror or praise for any particular conveyancing firms? I recently used Joslin Rhodes myself (based in Middlesbrough) and found them to be very helpful, polite, prompt and things went off without a hitch. Couldn't recommend them enough!

    I'd personally not consider DIY conveyancing, simply because of the sums of money involved - I'd rather pay for a service that gives me a little piece of mind. Moving is stressful enough!
  • jelfs666
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    I was pointed in the direction of these posts to stick up for my profession!

    Firstly to the comment about solicitors having no qualifications other than experience: they are not solicitors! The route to any legal qualification in order to practice is long and difficult hence the eventual salary is higher than could be expected from someone who didn't do any form of further and then higher education.

    Now back to the beginning! Conveyancer or solicitor? A solicitor (as has been said) has qualified to practice in any field of law, a Licensed Conveyancer has qualified under the auspice of the CLC whereas solicitors are regulated by the Law Society. Both are equally well trained and both can deal with conveyancing matters but the LC has obviously trained with one field in mind in order to offer the most topic specific advice available. Think of a solicitor as a GP and a LC as a hospital specialist; both qualified to look after you medically but one has more specific training. Don't forget that Legal Executives can offer the same service and have still undergone a large amount of training (more general as in a solicitor's training but to finally qualify you must do an area specific course and proceed to specialise in that area). They are often cheaper than a solicitor as they work under a solicitor's supervision. Just to finish the list, many banks and insurers also have permission to convey in limited circumstances.

    However, when costs around the £300 mark are mentioned, you surely mean what professional snobbery dubs a 'Conveyancing Cattle Market/Factory'. Usually on online-based firm that can lower costs by not running large offices and therefore offer you lower fees. BUT (you knew it was coming!) they can also lower their fees because much of day to day routine work is underdone in a sort of call centre environment, you may ring up for an update and not speak to your 'file handler' but someone who is reading notes from a central computer system. There is nothing wrong with this as long as long as the system to accurately up to date and you don't mind not talking to the organ grinder so to speak.

    Professional services really fall in the 'you get what you pay for' category; do you prefer the Tesco Finest, Tesco Premium or Tesco Value range when you are grocery shopping? Price is often a concern (especially for first time buyers these days who are really struggling) and maybe cheap is best in that case, but don't expect cruise liner service for a Haven holiday price. To be fair though quality of service depends upon your chosen professional; are they helpful, friendly, informative, always return your calls and keep you posted? If so great! Cost doesn't matter! But the cheaper the fees, the more cases a firm/company will have to take on to stay in business which may mean they can devote less time to you specially and in our modern 'fast food, quick fix' society, patience is not a quality seen in abundance! Especially when you are experiencing one of the most stressful events you can ever imagine!

    Everyone is correct, personal recommendations are definitely the way to go as you can rely on your friends' and family's opinion; just picking the first firm in the phone book leaves you with luck of the draw. We would always potential clients (and estate agents should advise you similarly and not just push you into using their 'in-house' conveyancer who could actually be half way across the country) to obtain at least three quotes (same as with any other purchase/service really) and speak to the conveyancers to get a 'feel' for how they work and if you will get on, after all you will be speaking to them for anything from say four to twelve weeks depending on your chain, personal circumstances and a whole hosts of things that make conveyancing totally unpredictable!

    And if you have had a bad experience make sure you let your conveyancer or their firm know, they have to tell you at the outset about their complaints procedure. It helps to improve quality if we know what we have done wrong in the past! Also give your conveyancer as much information to help as you can; do you prefer email or phone, do you expect to receive weekly/every other day updates even if there is no progress to report, do you have a completion date you really must achieve? Help us to help you! I know the legal profession are about as popular as the HMRC, traffic wardens or even George W Bush but just shop around until you find the firm that fits and works for you and then you should receive a service you can recommend and use again.

    Right, rant over, everyone's bored, don't lawyers go on and on... off to count the piles of cash and polish the devil horns...;)
  • Milky_Mocha
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    Thanks, jelfs666 for that perspective. So, are you a solicitor or a conveyancer? LOL!

    I chose to go with a solicitor in the end. Simply because I felt that for that value of property I needed someone more 'qualified' for lack of a better word. I gather from the posts that conveyancers tend to be used for conveyorbelt (excuse the unintended pun) type of transactions which probably falls in the average house price bracket - probably usually FTBs. So far the solicitor has been brilliant, more so when we instructed him with our purchase in addition to our sale.
    The reason people don't move right down inside the carriage is that there's nothing to hold onto when you're in the middle.
  • jelfs666
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    Glad you've got yourself a good'en, Milky_Mocha! Since you asked I'm unergoing Legal Executive training so at the moment I'm a Conveyancing Executive as a Licensed Conveyancer oversees my work, it's a complicated area, so many titles for the same work!
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