Cost of new bathroom installation - is this fair?

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  • Hi .. I'm in Brighton and need to replace - bath with shower over, loo, w/h basin, tiling - all simple plain clean white! And a cloakroom which needs loo and w/h basin replacing with built in ones along one wall, tiling.

    Any recommendations for reliable, reasonably priced plumber/tiler for Brighton please?

    Any thoughts on how much would be a reasonable price?

    Thanks
    Sharon
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    Remove old suite and tiles - anyone can do this bit, worth considering DIY
    either that or one day of work for labourer

    Plaster all walls to make good
    -requires skilled plasterer, call it 1.5 days work, maybe £300 tops.
    fit new bath and taps
    fit new toilet and cistern
    fit new basin and taps
    -standard plumbing work, could be easy if new parts are going straight in place of old. Few days work max. Call it a few hundred.

    fit new built in thermostatic shower
    -depending on how much prep needed, a day's work or maybe 2 days.
    Another few hundred.

    fit new shower screen
    fit new chrome towel rail
    Fit marine plywood to floor and screw at 150mm centres with stainless screws
    -details, call it £200.

    Tile floor and walls around bath
    £250 guess

    Decorate room in colour of your choice
    Do it yourself!

    over £4K sounds too much to me.
    By mixing some DIY and managing a plumber, electrician and plasterer independantly I don't see why it can't be done for £1500 ish of labour.
    Happy chappy
  • Brill - thank you! Will be sourcing plumber, plasterer and tiler!
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    Don't rely on my estimates though - call one or two of each trade and ask for quotes. It will be a lot less than £4850 whatever happens.
    Happy chappy
  • Alan_M_2
    Alan_M_2 Posts: 2,752 Forumite
    It really all comes down to what finish you expect, how much effort you are willing to put in, how much guarantee you want for the fit, do you want the trouble of dealing with all the seperate trades that may or may not consider the trade following them.

    Do you want to pay one guy to deal with everything then all comeback is to the one guy?

    If your supplier doesn't get the products to site on time will you pay the tradesmen to stand around and do nothing becuse you didn't get the parts on time?

    If you find the wrong parts have arrived will you pay the tradesmen wasted time? Do you want all these problems?

    Part of my business for years was full bathroom installations, we learnt quickly not to get invloved in fits where we didn't supply everything as there would alwys be something wrong/lost/forgotten.

    We're in Surrey, we were fitting 1 bedroom flats or anything up to country homes. our average bathroom was around the £8000 mark but we also did a lot of wetrooms, these start at £10,000 for a quality installation.

    Comparing a bathroom fit on a forum like this is like trying to ask if a four door saloon car is good value for £50,000...if you're used to a ford Escort then it's expensive, if you're expecting a Bentley then it's cheap. It's all relative.

    We now just specialise in stone (marble and limestone installations) we decided to stop the full fit when Part P was introduced, it was the straw that broke the camels back and it was no longer viable to operate a one stop shop being completely above board when there are so many fitters who ignore the regulations and openly commit tax fraud to cut your costs.
  • baldelectrician
    baldelectrician Posts: 2,467 Forumite
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    booty40uk wrote:
    Raymond
    The job, as far as i can tell, is removing a bathroom suite and installing new with the addition of a thermostatic shower. The shower will need plumbing in and i am ,rightly or wrongly, going to assume that there will be some degree of plumbing pipework required for the new suite configerations. Therefore, all the pipework will need bonding and cross bonding in accordance with chapter 5 article 4.3 of the 16th edition of the IEE regs. Therefore he will need to be a qualified electrician.
    Andy

    Not necissarily.
    If ALL pipework in the bathroom (including waste pipes & radiator) is plastic then what do you bond.
    Also there are other schemes that do part P and these don't involve the NICEIC.
    everything you wanted to know about bonding but were afraid to ask:
    http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/EarthingPlasticPipes.pdf
    baldly going on...
  • missk_ensington
    missk_ensington Posts: 1,590 Forumite
    I don't know much about this sort of thing but I've been quoted £200 for taking out a 3 piece bathroom and replacing it, like-for-like with another one. That doesn't include tiling or shower, just a straight swap but over £4,000 seems ridiculous.

    Go through the paper and local internet sites (quote me local etc) and phone loads up, and whatever price they give offer them 5-10% less for cash. Thats what I always do and I've now got my kitchen fitting down from original fitting quote MFI/B&Q from £1,250 to £100 a day in cash for 3 days!
  • Alan_M_2
    Alan_M_2 Posts: 2,752 Forumite
    See that's my point exactly, you pays yer money you takes your choice.

    A bathroom fitted for £200 isn't going to be the same as a bathroom for £4000 or £8000. It's a mute questions unless there is far more information provided.
  • missk_ensington
    missk_ensington Posts: 1,590 Forumite
    Mine is just a straight swap, no plastering or anything, apparently its 1 and a half days work. I don't know how other members feel about this, but if I want work doing my first port of call is the local pub at 5.30pm! There are always building/plumbers/painters/joiners... having a pint and often more than happy for a 'foreigner' in cash. Proper kitchen/bathroom companies are always expensive because the tradesman they use are often self-emplyed-my ex was a tiler and worked for a bathroom and kitchen company, he charged them £25 sq metre and they charged the customer £30 a square meter, so the firm you use take a few hundred quid just for being the middle man!

    I'm not an expert at this, but it could be significantly cheaper getting a oplumer, tiler, plasterer all separately because £800 or more of the OP's quote could just be 'middle man money' as described above.
  • Lucie_2
    Lucie_2 Posts: 1,482 Forumite
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    I think the original quote is a little steep. I received a similar priced quote from a national bathroom company (think Flipper) & actually got the job done for less than £2K. That included tiling walls, floor & installing whirlpool bath. The whirlpool bath & taps came to just over £1K on their own (we supplied it, along with wall & floor tiles). We kept the original basin/toilet as there was nothing wrong with them.
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